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BigJustinW 02-11-2002 12:18 PM

Sonic Adventure 2:Battle
 
I heard Sonic Adventure 2 battle got a 6.9 from IGN!!!!

is it true? Because I'm not an insider.

if it is true, Sega stuck Nintendo with a pretty bad exclusive game :unsure:

Blackmane 02-11-2002 12:30 PM

What is Sonic Adventure 2: Battle about? What kind of title is it?

If it is really that bad, then BOO to Sega.

BigJustinW 02-11-2002 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Blackmane
What is Sonic Adventure 2: Battle about? What kind of title is it?
It's Sonic adventure 2 (exactly like the Dreamcast game) with an added battle mode.

Neo 02-11-2002 12:34 PM

6.9 is correct

Bad Sound they say, and terrible camera control

BigJustinW 02-11-2002 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Neo
6.9 is correct

Bad Sound they say, and terrible camera control

I was acctually thinking of giving my Dreamcast to my cousins, and buying Sonic and NBA 2k2 for Cube...

Do they say that it's a decent port, or is it worse than the DC version? (I know the chaos are worse, because I'd rather use a VMU instead of GBA)

Neo 02-11-2002 12:58 PM

They say the Chaos is a nice feature, but it's not part of the core gameplay. They say the game as a whole is marginally better than the DC version.

Ginkasa 02-11-2002 03:21 PM

SA2: B got a 6.9 becauee its only a port with very minor differences. They say the graphics are little bit better than the DC's version but not by much (mostly the texture I think). The only other differences are extra characters and stages in the Vs. modes and the Choa link-up with the GBA.

Then none of the problems were fixed from the original, bad voice-acting, camera problems, not enough Sonic/Shadow levels, etc.


That's why it only got a 6.9, not because its a bad game, but because its a port with little difference.


Just so you know, SA2 for the DC got a 9.4 and the GCN version is the same thing except for the differences I mentioned above so if you don't have SA2 for the DC yet and you want it you should get the GCN version.

gekko 02-11-2002 03:38 PM

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By now I'm willing to gamble that a lot of Sega fans are drafting nasty letters, claiming that IGNcube consists of Nintendo fanboys and we don't like Sonic or Sega. On the contrary however, we love Sega and we've always been a fan of Sonic. It's the 2D Sonics that we like, though, because they are the epitome of the design. It's the move into 3D that has been unpleasant. When I boot up Sonic, I want to take off at lightning speed and never look back. With the shooting and scavenger hunt levels in SA2, though, the design took a turn for the worse. The camera just isn't made to accommodate these types of endeavors and who really wants to spend a third of their time in Sonic's world playing out a simplistic shooter?

I quite enjoy Sega products. I loved Super Monkey Ball (who doesn't?) and am extremely satisfied Sonic Team decided to bring Sonic Adventure 2: Battle to GameCube. It can be a fun game at times, but it can also be extremely frustrating. This is why I'm anticipating the next edition of Sonic. Hopefully an all-new, ambitious take on the franchise custom-tailored to GameCube hardware.

For Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, I recommend renting it. You should get your money's worth out of it in that time. For those of you that played the Dreamcast version, there's little to no reason to pick up the GCN incarnation. The differences in visuals and added multiplayer modes probably aren't worth it unless you're a hardcore fan.
***--Fran Mirabella III
I don't know what the IGNDC guys were smoking when they rated the DC version of Sonic a 9.4. With that, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle for GameCube is an improvement on the already released DC version -- it really is. Sega has transferred the hedgehog once more to the realm of 3D without losing any of the frantic pace or unpredictable loops of his 2D ancestors. It's these standard speedster levels that are Sonic Adventure 2's main draw for they never let up. And yet even these are hampered by an unbalanced camera system that is a generation backward from Mario 64 in terms of control and playable visibility.

Worse, though, are the other styles of play: a boring, tedious third-person shooter mode and a poorly executed scavenger hunt mode that unfairly asks players to search out gigantic levels for items whilst doing battle with the title's biggest nemesis, the camera system.

To its credit, Sega has also upped the texture quality over the DC incarnation of the game considerably, which is all the more noticeable in progressive scan mode (and if your television supports this, I highly recommend it). There are also added background objects like trees, rocks and vehicles, and the framerate is super-smooth even in multiplayer mode (which, unfortunately, is a worthless feature).

But improved visuals do not make a good game. And though I love Sega's blue hedgehog, I've been playing videogames long enough to know that when I'm more annoyed by the gameplay mechanics and head-spinning level design than I am satisfied, there is something terribly wrong.

This is not Mario's platformer equivalent. This game has been overrated for far too long. Only recommended to hardcore Sega and Sonic fans. Everybody else should definitely rent this one and see if it's worth pursuing before slapping down the cash for a permanent investment.
***--Matt Casamassina
They don't got a problem with the game, they just don't like Sonic Adventure. Fanboys.

DeathsHand 02-11-2002 04:01 PM

And just for the record, you can check the scores games get just by going to the list of game reviews (meaning click on "Reviews")... it has the scores of even insider reviews, of course, you don't know why it got that score but meh... :D

What the heck... :burger:

Plastic0006 02-11-2002 04:44 PM

GRRR
 
DA** u ign i hate u ur liars and i liked the game so ha and o yea igns site is cool but i hate them they give bad reviews

BigJustinW 02-11-2002 05:14 PM

Re: GRRR
 
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Originally posted by Plastic0006
DA** u ign i hate u ur liars and i liked the game so ha and o yea igns site is cool but i hate them they give bad reviews
It's not IGN...

It's IGN CUBE that gives bad reviews...

"You can upload graduating classes from NCAA 2002, and play in a 30 year franchise"
-Madden 2002 review-

Angrist 02-12-2002 08:10 AM

I don't know what the IGNDC guys were smoking when they rated the DC version of Sonic a 9.4. With that, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle for GameCube is an improvement on the already released DC version -- it really is.
:unsure:

Jason1 02-12-2002 11:55 AM

SA2 might have been my favorite Dreamcast game. It was really great. And if your devoted, yo will have on hell of a time getting all of the medals or wheatever they are...5 in each level...and If you do get all of them I think you get like a remake of the Green Hill zone...

BigJustinW 02-12-2002 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Jason1
SA2 might have been my favorite Dreamcast game. It was really great. And if your devoted, yo will have on hell of a time getting all of the medals or wheatever they are...5 in each level...and If you do get all of them I think you get like a remake of the Green Hill zone...
IMO, after the game is beat, it becomes a lot harder, and a lot less interesting....

Angrist 02-12-2002 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by BigJustinW


IMO, after the game is beat, it becomes a lot harder, and a lot less interesting....

You mean like so many games?? :rolleyes:

designated_GM3R 02-12-2002 03:44 PM

They were merely critiquing the additions to gameplay made through the transition from Dreamcast to the Cube. I tend to stick with the reviews based upon the *original* rendition of the game.

Angrist 02-12-2002 03:58 PM

Well, you expect GameCube-worthy graphics... and you don't really get them....

Drunk Hobbit 02-12-2002 04:00 PM

Actually the graphics was the only thing they liked.

Angrist 02-12-2002 04:03 PM

Ok... :unsure:

BigJustinW 02-13-2002 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
You mean like so many games?? :rolleyes:
I played through Zelda:OoT, Mario 3, Goldeneye, Mario 64, Zelda:MM, and Madden franchise mode (:p) more than 4 times each, and I would slip it in and play each one again from the start without hesitation.

I played through Sonic Adventure 2 twice, and I cn't stand to play it anymore....

so your point is???

Angrist 02-13-2002 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by BigJustinW
so your point is???
My point is that very many games get boring after you beat them. Only super games like Golden Eye and Super Smash Bros are still fun. At least that's my opinion.

Drunk Hobbit 02-13-2002 03:58 PM

Sonic games are usually very replayable though. I played through Sonic Advance over 6 times since I got it last saturday.

Angrist 02-13-2002 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Danchastu
Sonic games are usually very replayable though. I played through Sonic Advance over 6 times since I got it last saturday.
:eek: don't you sleep?

Drunk Hobbit 02-13-2002 06:47 PM

It's a pretty easy game (minus finding the chaos emeralds) and I have Sonic hooked up to my brain from the genesis day...and no, I don't sleep. *quacks like a duck and runs around in circles*

BigJustinW 02-13-2002 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by Danchastu
Sonic games are usually very replayable though. I played through Sonic Advance over 6 times since I got it last saturday.
I agree... I played through Sonic 1, 2, and 3 at least 20 times each :D and I'd play them again if I ha the chance :D

probably because I'm just a big sonic fanboy ;)

but I only played through SA2 twice and I can't stand it...

maybe if they included the ability to have Supersonic in every level, and had not added the non-Sonic levels I would love it.

or maybe they could have left it 2d and brought talis back as a partner ;)

I miss the 2-d days :(

Angrist 02-14-2002 06:52 AM

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Originally posted by BigJustinW
I miss the 2-d days :(
That's what we have the AGB for, remember?

BigJustinW 02-14-2002 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Angrist
That's what we have the AGB for, remember?
AGB isn't good enough...

I'd rather them make a 2d Sonic game on a console that uses a full TV...

gekko 02-14-2002 03:26 PM

Me gots SA2 Battle :D Good game, better than the DC version. New Chao stuff ain't bad. Improved graphics are always nice, and finally another progressive scan game!

Here's a little tip, check the DC reviews of this game. The Nintendo reviewers are considering factors like graphics, expect them to be pushing GC to the limit when it's a DC port. Also adding new stuff, and making the game different than the DC game. Case in point, this is the DC game made better.

And I got my first Rouge level out of the way. w00t!

BigJustinW 02-14-2002 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
Me gots SA2 Battle :D Good game, better than the DC version. New Chao stuff ain't bad. Improved graphics are always nice, and finally another progressive scan game!

Here's a little tip, check the DC reviews of this game. The Nintendo reviewers are considering factors like graphics, expect them to be pushing GC to the limit when it's a DC port. Also adding new stuff, and making the game different than the DC game. Case in point, this is the DC game made better.

And I got my first Rouge level out of the way. w00t!

I'm guessing you haven't beat SA2 for Dreacast before

gekko 02-14-2002 03:29 PM

No, got about half way through on both stories. I was on a Knuckles and Rouge level, and there I stopped :D

BigJustinW 02-14-2002 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by gekko
No, got about half way through on both stories. I was on a Knuckles and Rouge level, and there I stopped :D
Thought so ;)

The first time through, this game is great :D

Drunk Hobbit 02-14-2002 04:06 PM

2D Sonic game for the cube...with sprites...mouth watering sprites...mouth spriting sprites...mmmmm sprite

BigJustinW 02-14-2002 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Danchastu
2D Sonic game for the cube...with sprites...mouth watering sprites...mouth spriting sprites...mmmmm sprite
Obey your thirst

Crash 02-15-2002 03:38 PM

so far sonic is an awesome awesome game... absolutely incredible.... if you never played the dc version, (like me, i have the first one though).... this game is insanity. I love it.

i do recommend it

sega is the super master stud of textures... could be the best texture work i've seen on any console thus far. and any game.

gekko 02-15-2002 05:55 PM

Just finished the story for Hero. Pissed off... badly.

BigJustinW 02-16-2002 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by gekko
Just finished the story for Hero. Pissed off... badly.
Don't worry, the true ending will come after you beat both sides

and uh, as a tip, go to the aquatic mine (Knuckles) and find the breating device... you can't beat the game w/o it

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Warning: Below I'm going to show you how to find it!
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1) you dran the water to it's lowest level
2) find a mysterious pit of water somewhere low in the level
3) swim as far as you can go and at the end of the tavern there will be the little green glowing thingy.. inside it will be the device

um... my directions aren't very clear, but hell, you will know what I'm talking about when you find it.

BreakABone 02-16-2002 11:37 AM

No I think that Gekko is a little mad at me and the game for that matter. He was expecting to play as SuperSonic and well I guess he claims I forgot to tell him that he can't until you beath both sides....

Well I didn't know that was important.. I might just pick this game up again since my GC is going to a drought.

gekko 02-16-2002 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by BigJustinW


Don't worry, the true ending will come after you beat both sides

and uh, as a tip, go to the aquatic mine (Knuckles) and find the breating device... you can't beat the game w/o it

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Warning: Below I'm going to show you how to find it!
-------------------------------------------------------------------



1) you dran the water to it's lowest level
2) find a mysterious pit of water somewhere low in the level
3) swim as far as you can go and at the end of the tavern there will be the little green glowing thingy.. inside it will be the device

um... my directions aren't very clear, but hell, you will know what I'm talking about when you find it.

Hmm... why can't I beat the whole game without it? I already beat the hero side :confused:

BreakABone 02-16-2002 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by gekko


Hmm... why can't I beat the whole game without it? I already beat the hero side :confused:

Well first off..You can technically beat the game without it.. It just makes it a whole.. I mean a WHOLE lot easier

And second there are really 3 sides to the story...
Hero,Dark and Final

You can guess what the Hero and Dark stories are but the Final(4get the real name) can only be opened after beating both Hero and Dark and invovles a couple of levels

gekko 02-16-2002 01:56 PM

Man. I missed quite a few of the green things. 5 to be exact. This is why I like strategy guides, they let me know if I'm about to miss something.

And what's with Sonics mystery melody? I haven't got it to do anything.


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