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Crash 06-06-2003 03:35 PM

Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
While shopping on ebay, a saw there was this one seller who had many copies of a game and was selling out of Hong Kong. so i emailed them asking if they were legitamate copies or if they were pirated copies. here is what she emailed back:

Quote:

dear adam,
>
>our games are assembled in hong kong (box, manual and cartridge are
>imported from japan) with original chip from nintendo. but it does not have
>the imprint because it is manufactured locally in hong kong.
>
>if you are unsatisfied with your purchase, we can offer you refund on full
>item price (exclude shipping)
>
>thanking you
>kittyshoppers
,
So I send that email in to nintnedo and they said 'hmm.... interesting, WAMMMMMO!!!'


actually they said:

Quote:

Dear Adam:

The information you provided about kittyshoppers indicates that this
seller is offering counterfeit Nintendo titles.

Thank you for your cooperation and best regards,




Nintendo of America Inc.
Anti-Piracy Group.
AuctionPiracy@noa.nintendo.com

I feel good! Damn sweatshops in hong kong stealing nintendo's money.

gekko 06-06-2003 03:54 PM

LOL. Good job.

viruscool 06-06-2003 03:55 PM

Yeah HELL Yeah!!!!! You go crash!!!

Canyarion 06-06-2003 03:59 PM

Hehe... good job! Why don't we all go search sites with ROMs, or people on ebay who sell '100 in 1' games... :mad2:

bobcat 06-06-2003 09:50 PM

lol

Ginkasa 06-06-2003 09:53 PM

*has always dreamed of doing something like that*

Oh well, its pretty good to see it happen even if it wasn't me :D

*shrugs and walks away*

CrOnO_LiNk 06-06-2003 09:54 PM

Did you get rewarded with anything? Any free games...?

I think you should get something in return. Heh...

Jonbo298 06-07-2003 10:47 AM

Good job. I'd feel great if I did something like this. Slightly off topic - Shouldn't this be in the GBA Forum? You mentioned it was cartridges. When I saw the title and started reading, I thought someone had pirated GC games.

Jason1 06-07-2003 11:02 AM

Sweet...Nintendo actually recognized your exsistence. That really cool that you potentially helped catch some bad dudes stealing Nintendo's money.(even though they have millions in the bank)

GameKinG 06-07-2003 02:23 PM

I didnt even know you could counterfit them...

GameMaster 06-08-2003 01:24 AM

Thank you Crash, for making the world a better place for kids like me. :D

Cyrax9 06-28-2003 06:43 PM

Crash congrats man!

I don't Download ROM's, not unless something has been writeen as "Public Domian/Abandonware and even thern it's only PC-Related, and I only fileshare music that's NOT on Shelves or I bought the CD of, the exception is two Eminem Songs, which I wanted but not ona whole CD< iof he wants payment I'll pay him for two songs, and I'll double the $1-$2 the RIAA Pays hi8m PER ALBUM.

But anyway, good job! Hong KOng Sweatshops are very misleading, I wound up with a bootlegged Anime CD because I fell for this, luckily, I am still able to buy a legit copy, and now I know what to look for. I also know that a lot of Companies have Factories in Hong KOng Tailand and Mainland China now, and of course, things get stolen from them and bootlegger's use the stolen goods to make knock-offs, I enctly imported a toy from Tailand, and I had to check with soeone else who can ID these things to see if ti was legit, which it was, I've also gotten quite a bit of other Legit Merchandise out of China, but I've seen bootlegs as well, and the easiest way to recognize a Bootleg is to see if it carries a quality seal or logo form the Original Company, I remebr seeing a Bootleg Toy from a Japanese Copmpany that had two surefire "BOOTLEGGER" Nen Signs above it, the first was a mis-colring on one part, and the seocnd was the absence of the Companies logo, just like the absence of Nintendo's Seal of Quality.

However this raises an interesting question, why aren't items from companies like Interact which are UNLISENCED and dont' carry Nitendo's "Seal of Quality" considered bootlegs? Every Store from Wal-Mart to EB has them, and surely if they hd paid Nintendo they would be liscened would they not? If they dind't pay Nintendo, wouldn't they be bootlegs? Oh, and if theya re bootlegs, why hasn't Nintendo tried to shut them down?

Just a curious thought.

Anyway, good eye crash! Here are some surefire ways to tell if something is a bootleg as I've seen a "few" of them in my life:

1. The item doesn't have the Seal of Quality but is "made by Nintendo", this is what crash found god job man!

2. The item has a sticker/label that is unevenly applied and/or no seal fo quality is atached to the sticker (Some people have managed to forge the seal bt slap on sloppy labels)

3. The offending Item is on an "Odd-shaped" gam,e Carteridge that looks differnt than most, a lot of Bootlegged "Tengen" game sfor the NES were n BLACK Cartidges with an "Odd" shape unlike that of Nintewndo adn DID NOT Carry the Nintendo Seal of Quality, this is a famous bootleg job if anyone remebers it and the cartidges are still being resold today.

4. The item requires an adapter/boot disc/mod chip to play, the only Legit boot-disc comes with the "Game boy Player" so that one is good.

5. (GCN Only) the Disc has a colored bottom, espeically BLue, Purple, Silver or Gold. hese are all comon colors for BURNED CD's/DVD's. They obviously aren't legit.


6. (GCN Only) The game does not come in the "Standard" GCN Clamshell Case.

7. (GCN Only) Finally, if a game looks like something is wrong with it, a missing seal fo quality, a shoddy assembly job, or the like, it probably isn't legit, steer clear.

Crash, my guess is you just assited shutting downa major bootlegging operation, god job!


Now if you want to know how I found out those 7 things, I too, have reported eBay auctions with fraudlent Nintendo Items, one being a typical 1 Disc with 100 games deal, this was shutdwn within' the hour, the other one which was easy to spot was a Black Tengen game Cartidge, which, sadly enough is still mistaken as legit, it's not, the GCN stuff I read about to make sure I culd avod bootleggers and anything with the wordfs "Mod CHiop required" usualkly means the item is illegal. I've also seen people selling things like copying devices and other stuff that shouldn't be around, those guys I've reported right away, but I haven't seen many recently, however there are usually ways to avoid bootleg's and Crash was smart to check the Location before buying, I always ask seller's in other countries if their items are the original's and legit, and if they aren't, then I avoid them.

Bube 06-29-2003 12:37 PM

"Thank you for your cooperation and best regards"

That's all they do? Thank you for your cooperation when you've probably saved them thousands of dollars? Lousy Nintendo...

UnholyWarrior 06-29-2003 02:02 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
My god. I would never do that.

Ravishing Rick Rude 07-05-2003 07:03 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOnO_LiNk
Did you get rewarded with anything? Any free games...?

I think you should get something in return. Heh...

Don't you think that would be a tad ironic? he's trying to stop from Nintendo losing money, yet you think they shoudl give him a free game which would in turn lose them money.

Ah it's great.

Clone_GCC 07-05-2003 09:27 PM

wow your names Adam! MY NAMES ADAM TOO!!!
we must be like brothers or something!!! [/sarcasm]

ahem...

good job in helping them out, i think you should get more recognition, like your name put on there website for a little while, or just a free game :rolleyes: either way its great to see another hong kong piracy company going down! :shock: :blowingup

Hello 07-06-2003 05:20 AM

Crash your a prick those poor people were probably just trying to make an honest living. A$$hole

Clone_GCC 07-06-2003 08:36 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello
Crash your a prick those poor people were probably just trying to make an honest living. A$$hole

wtf!?

thats like saying a crack dealer shouldn't have gone to jail just because he wanted to make alot of money.

crack dealing is illegal and people get punished for it, piracy is also illegal and should not be tolerated by companies losing thousands of dollars just so some chinese slave labour people want to make a living.

it is not an honest it is illegal and should be treated like every other crime.

Emiger 07-06-2003 08:46 PM

It's nice to say gamers are out there that really want to stop piracy. I personally love giving my money to game companies so they can continue to make me games :)

anyways, nice work.

CrOnO_LiNk 07-06-2003 09:30 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clone_GCC
wtf!?

thats like saying a crack dealer shouldn't have gone to jail just because he wanted to make alot of money.

crack dealing is illegal and people get punished for it, piracy is also illegal and should not be tolerated by companies losing thousands of dollars just so some chinese slave labour people want to make a living.

it is not an honest it is illegal and should be treated like every other crime.

Clone!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Welcome back.

I agree, Crash did a right thing.
So yeah...

Stonecutter 07-06-2003 09:36 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello
Crash your a prick those poor people were probably just trying to make an honest living. A$$hole

Hey.......


Ya wanna...... make an actual point as to why crash is a "prick" or do you want everyone to think you're a dumbass?

Seeing as how what they were doing was "illegal" it's not exactly "honest" now was it?

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 07-06-2003 10:16 PM

true true, nice work crash **here here**:beerchug:


btw, to hello:

did it ever occure to you that maybe nintendo's the one making an honest living??? theres some guy on the street selling cigarettes to kids, he's making an honest living too, right? not only that, if those games are reported than the buyer gets in ****. So not only is the guy hurting the video game industry, he's hurting his buyers who mistakenly think that what they're buying is legit, and any time when you sell something else than what you say, than that is NOT an honest living.


and i never got the mod chip for my PS :D:D

Clone_GCC 07-07-2003 01:09 AM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOnO_LiNk
Clone!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Welcome back.

I agree, Crash did a right thing.
So yeah...

yes i am, im on holidays...uh "vacation" so i got alot of spare time.

btw check your inbox ya lousy bum.

oh and this goes for stonecutter too:

i was talking to JCubed and he said he talked to ryan and ryans gonna bring back GCC!! isnt that great!?

oh right gotta make sure this aint spam..oh hum...hmm...ah...

:deal: PIRACY IS BAD!! :deal:

Gamer 07-07-2003 02:21 AM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clone_GCC
yes i am, im on holidays...uh "vacation" so i got alot of spare time.

btw check your inbox ya lousy bum.

oh and this goes for stonecutter too:

i was talking to JCubed and he said he talked to ryan and ryans gonna bring back GCC!! isnt that great!?

oh right gotta make sure this aint spam..oh hum...hmm...ah...

:deal: PIRACY IS BAD!! :deal:



One questoin, WTF is GCC?

CrOnO_LiNk 07-07-2003 02:36 AM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer
One questoin, WTF is GCC?

Uhhh... Sorry guys, kind of off topic, but GCC is... actually was an awesome site where some of us came from. After it went down, we looked for other forums to post in but unfortunately, they all blowed with big time morons...

So then we came to Gametavern and the people were cool and we just started coming here because everyone here acted the way over at GCC.... Long story, but yeah...

So what the hell does GCC stand for?

GCubeCentral. :)

And to get back on topic, I know a kid who got busted selling drugs to people... Let's just say he sold marijuana to an under cover cop. Beware people, don't let these under cover cops fool you... they look a lot like high school students.... I am serious, heh...

GiMpY-wAnNaBe 07-07-2003 01:05 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOnO_LiNk
Uhhh... Sorry guys, kind of off topic, but GCC is... actually was an awesome site where some of us came from. After it went down, we looked for other forums to post in but unfortunately, they all blowed with big time morons...

So then we came to Gametavern and the people were cool and we just started coming here because everyone here acted the way over at GCC.... Long story, but yeah...


haha, reminds me of ninglobe....ninglobe
hee hee, i'm still waiting for those changes

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrOnO_LiNk
And to get back on topic, I know a kid who got busted selling drugs to people... Let's just say he sold marijuana to an under cover cop. Beware people, don't let these under cover cops fool you... they look a lot like high school students.... I am serious, heh...

lol, and this is back on topic for video game piracy :hmm:

Spike_Spiegel 07-07-2003 03:19 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clone_GCC
i was talking to JCubed and he said he talked to ryan and ryans gonna bring back GCC!! isnt that great!?

OFF TOPIC: When the hell did this happen?

CrOnO_LiNk 07-07-2003 05:45 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike_Spiegel
OFF TOPIC: When the hell did this happen?

:WHOA:

Is that... really you?
Cool...

And Clone, I doubt that's true. Heh....

Classic Rocker 07-07-2003 08:02 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
OFF TOPIC: Return of GCC? That would be sick. Let's hope if it does come back that it can survive for awhile before crashing.

ON TOPIC: Good job Crash, and yeah Crono Link is correct, there are tons of undercover cops in my area. Dealers are always getting busted for selling cooked up rock

Clone_GCC 07-07-2003 08:51 PM

haha

i was talking to Jcubed yesterday and he told me about it first.
then later ryan came online and confirmed it for me.

GCC is coming back!!!

i feel like a messanger from god


that was soooo tacky.

uh...

PIRACY IS REALLY REALLY BAD!!!

Nezumi 07-16-2003 07:13 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hello
Crash your a prick those poor people were probably just trying to make an honest living. A$$hole

^ The only decent person at this sad sad little forum.

There are entire villages devoted to selling pirated goods. So you go ahead and make yourself feel all high and mighty by tattle-telling on one such person. This is the closet you'll get to work with the company you guys so desperately love. Pfft.

PureEvil 07-16-2003 07:25 PM

LOL

:shakehead

BlueFire 07-16-2003 07:30 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezumi
^ The only decent person at this sad sad little forum.

There are entire villages devoted to selling pirated goods. So you go ahead and make yourself feel all high and mighty by tattle-telling on one such person. This is the closet you'll get to work with the company you guys so desperately love. Pfft.

lmao

Nezumi 07-16-2003 08:59 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Tell me why one would turn such a guy in? Do you use Kazaa, eDonkey, BitTorrent, or one of many other file sharing programs? The government is planning on cracking down on regular people to use them as examples for the rest of the public. Did Crash buy from this guy and receive a faulty product? No. He did not cause Crash any harm. Do you go up to cops and bring them to guys selling fake merchandise on the street? Of course not. You would get killed. Its all too easy to write an email and then pat yourself on the back.

Crash 07-16-2003 09:55 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nezumi
^ The only decent person at this sad sad little forum.

There are entire villages devoted to selling pirated goods. So you go ahead and make yourself feel all high and mighty by tattle-telling on one such person. This is the closet you'll get to work with the company you guys so desperately love. Pfft.

damn right i'm high and mighty.... well, maybe just high.... but either way...stopping piracy on any level might help bring the prices of games down... (well maybe not)... i dont have to be consistant in my being a narc to illegal activities. Its america and I can be prejudice against whomever i please....right rob?

where is my noob beating stick??

PureEvil 07-16-2003 10:12 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash
Its america and I can be prejudice against whomever i please....right rob?

Absolutely!

And you don't need a reason, either!

Canyarion 07-17-2003 05:46 AM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvil
Absolutely!

And you don't need a reason, either!

Isn't that the definition of prejudice? :p

PureEvil 07-17-2003 04:57 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Canyarion
Isn't that the definition of prejudice? :p

Sort of. But I think most prejudice is formed based on at least some small event or bit of knowledge or whatever. Then it's blown out of proportion and stuff.

bobcat 07-17-2003 06:19 PM

Re: Crash Stops Nintendo Piracy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash
Its america and I can be prejudice against whomever i please....right rob?

Right!

:unsure:

You were referring to me weren't u?


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