Nintendo Announces 3DS
 

Yes, a 3D capable DS. :lolz:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf

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What in the hell? If experience tells me anything about 3D products, I don't think this is gonna be a cheap one at ALL.

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Early April Fool's joke? How do they expect to do 3D effects without glasses when no one else is able to do it?

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By changing the rules!

Really, no idea, but someone linked to this video of a DSiWare game

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Yeah but the article on Eurogamer now has more interesting info... apparentlly Fuji already has 3D screens.

At first I thought it had to be April Fools too, but now I believe it's true.

E³ is gonna be great. :D

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I'd rather have Nintendo focus on online gaming and better graphics instead of gimmicks like this.

I haven't seen any videos or anything (I'm not even sure a video can give any ideas about a 3D system), but I bet that this will make people nauseous. I hope it doesn't turn out like the Virtual Boy.

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O Ye of little faith.

I think Nintendo saw the 3DTV thing coming and decided to hop on the bandwagon. I don't know how exactly it works, but I'd guess we'll find out soon enough.

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At this point in the game, I don't thiknk nintendo has a choice on whether or not to focus on these things. Those two factors are what kept nintendo back in this generation's console war. However, I'm far more interested in nintendo's new future offering than either Sony or Microsoft's. Simply because while Sony and Microsoft tend to follow tried and true formulas for consoles while injecting new ideas via games, Nintendo tends to keep the story formula congruent with its past, while providing new ways to play the same story.


As for the 3d sans glasses I'll believe it when I see it. The only way that I see it working is with an attachable headpiece which tracks where your head is. That being said, if I wanted to look like a tool, I'd just go pick up a Miley Cyrus album and save myself the trouble.

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This is a ridiculously bad idea.
Almost as bad as everyone is claiming the Sony Motion Dildo/Wand to be.

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To be honest, these were the factors that gave Nintendo a huge boost at the beginning of the generation.

Then the appeal started to wear off.

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Well, looking at the Sharp tech and Fuji's products, it does indeed look to be possible to do 3D without glasses. I wonder if any of Fuji's products are out at stores so I can test drive them...

If 3D works right (as in, Pandora-right), it's hardly a gimmick.

And jeez Typhoid, troll much? Even your lover-boys at Sony are making all of their products 3D-enabled. :p

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Bahaha gradually. Nintendo still owns this generation in terms of sales and that's all they needed.

I can't wait to see how the 3DS works.

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I don't love one system more than another. I just believe in objectivity when it comes to thinking what is good and what isn't.

A 3d handheld device? That seems like a really dumb idea in practice. In concept, it's a good idea. 3D anything is a good idea.

But a 3D handheld is such a dumb idea. It won't get off the ground more than just fanboys buying it up right away just to have one.

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Please explain. Why is 3D a dumb idea for a handheld? Because I honestly don't see where you're coming from.

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Because of the price it will most likely be, and the fact 3d games for homes hasn't been tested yet.

I'm not saying people won't buy it. But to do it on a hand held first, opposed to an actual system is entirely backwards now.

It's like releasing a portable blu-ray player before blu-ray players for homes have been released, or put on the market. Would that sell? Sure. But would millions of people drop tons of money for something that hasn't been proven to be popular or generally accepted at that point? Probably not.

I didn't mean to say it was a dumb idea altogether. I even said on paper it's a great idea. I just meant to do it first is a dumb idea.

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Touch screen was done on a handheld first.

And whenever the Wii and it's motion controller was announced everyone said it was a dumb idea too.

This will most likely be very successful. I think the reason they are doing it on a handheld first, as opposed to a console, is because if done on a console everyone would have to buy new TV's just to use the console.

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You know what would be way more innovative?


Taping a fleshlight to a Nintendo DS. Now that is a handheld I could get behind. :lolz:

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NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A STICKY SITUATION!

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I'm curious what the graphics hardware is going to be like on this. Even my 2-year old phone supports a programmable pipeline, unlike the Wii. If they do add one, I'll be curious to see if they adopt an existing high-level language.

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Can somebody explain to me what this "head tracking" thing is and how it works? How does that make a system 3d-capable?

I read somewhere (probably Kotaku) that it might involve a tilt sensor similar to what the iPhone has.. I'm curious as to how that would work as well.

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Well, Bube - you have to believe.

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I don't see how the head-tracking (DSi) stuff is really 3D. It only gives that illusion when you tilt the console or move your head. If you hold still, you won't see 3D. People won't fall for that.

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I really won't comment on this being a good/bad idea until e3.

I mean really, we know nothing on the handheld other than what I started this thread with. So I'll wait for the hardware and software to present itself.

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It sounds like there will be be some sort of film on the DS screens that makes it 3D. As long as it has good games, graphics and doesn't give me headaches, I'm in!

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Hopefully I'm not agreeing with a bot, but this is my conclusion down pat.

Typhoid, I honestly don't see where you're coming from at all. So you'd be ok with it if consoles did it first? Would it then change your mind knowing that consoles have done it first? The PS3 has already demonstrated it, and it will be out this summer.

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By "do it first" I meant released on market, not just demonstrated.
But that's okay. You don't have to see where I'm coming from.
That's the beauty of opinions.

And I don't understand how a console can have a true 3D game, without the person also having a 3D-capable TV.

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It will be. This summer. As far as I've heard, the 3DS won't be out until 2011.

They can't. 3D TVs are out right now. The main method being used requires active glasses that coordinate with the TV to turn each lens on and off in sync with the TV. I haven't test driven one yet, but apparently you can try them out in stores.

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I've seen some of those fancy 3D TVs in videos. You know, the ones that don't require glasses. The technology is VERY new, but mostly because on a TV, you have to deal with viewable angles and a larger device.

On a handheld, you don't have that problem because there's really only ONE viewable angle and the screen is much smaller.

I was impressed with watching the 3D TVs though. Even in a video, you can see the images pop out.

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I don't think I caught this before, so I think I misunderstood you. You're talking sales, then. I think you're saying, the 3DS won't sell well until consumers get used to the idea, namely with consoles first. So, you don't think -- assuming the 3D aspect works like 3D should, and doesn't cause dizziness/headaches -- that the 3DS will be a hit?

I think you might have been right -- that is, if everything weren't already headed in the direction of 3D. In this case, Nintendo is far from being the leader in 3D for entertainment media. Media, post-Avatar, is a 3D world. Consumers are already well aware of and have accepted 3D (see: Avatar sales numbers). In my opinion, there's no turning back.

EDIT: But to clarify, even if Nintendo were one of the first to do 3D, I think the 3DS would still be a huge hit. Again, assuming the 3D works right.

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The 3D on such a small screen would be ridicuterrible, I think. The illusion would look tacky, and lame. Because say you're looking at the middle of the screen playing Mario; Awesome, Mario is in 3D! Now say you have to do something near the edge of the screen; The 3D would be ruined because the screen is so small, and 'real life' is within your direct peripheral vision, ruining the illusion.

3D is only good, or great when you can't see the edges of the screen.
Even Avatar looked like shit when you peered off to the sides.


That is 100% what I was getting at.

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Ok, personal opinions are fine and good.

But when it comes to sales... :D

So -- in terms of sales -- considering what I said about the PS3 3D and media post-Avatar, how do you think that consumers are not ready for 3D-handhelds?

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:ohreilly:

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Well is there anyone who is still that impressed with 3D anyway? I mean I really wasn't very impressed with Avatar in 3D, I mean it was pretty, it was in 3D, I was ok with it. Honestly though, it's kinda an old gimmick, they're trying to bring it back. EH?

Someone wake me up when they have holographic shit please.

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Then it'll be like Sean Connery is in your living room......... or bed room..........

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I agree - I would prefer to see a movie not in 3D, given the option.

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Ahh no, that would be when they make virtual reality happen.

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Well, despite yours and Vamp's opinions, I think the sales numbers of Avatar clearly show that most people are still impressed by 3D.

Personally, I would never bother to see a movie in 2D if it was meant for 3D, given the option. Vamp, if you had to see Avatar again, and had the choice, would you really watch it in 2D rather than 3D? Why?

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I saw Avatar in 3D and 2D - don't get me wrong, I thought that the 3D was really cool. If I were going to watch it again I wouldn't really have a preference, but I would probably go 2D just for cost reasons, and so I wouldn't have to wear glasses.

But, looking at Clash of the Titans that is coming out, they have been advertising that pretty heavily as being in 3D - but I will definitely be seeing it in 2D the first time I watch it, then I might go back later and see it in 3D if it's really good.

Right now I feel like the 3D affects are still mostly gimmicky, and that the 2D version is more of the "true" movie. I sort of get the same feeling I do when I see something in full screen that was shot in wide screen. Avatar did a really great job of using 3D to enhance the world rather than trying to throw things in your face. Maybe if future movies continue doing that then my mind will change.

However, that being said I'm much more excited about the new Sharp TV that adds yellow to the RGB gamut. xD

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No no no, do NOT see Clash of the Titans in 3D. It was filmed in 2D, and 3D was only tacked on later after Avatar was released and the movie studios saw $$$ in their eyes. When movie studios do THAT, then yes it is entirely a gimmick. That's studios trying to cash in on the 3D craze ushered in by Avatar, by trying to pull a fast one on consumers.

On the other hand, How to Train Your Dragon was made specifically for 3D, and is 95% on RT with 77 reviews.

Yes, I agree. If a movie is filmed in 2D and meant for 2D, then I despise the studios that then force it into 3D for a quick buck. It's like watching some old black and white movies that were later technicolored, it just looks terrible.

And yeah I saw a commercial about that the new Sharp TV with yellow added. That sounds like a gimmick to me, I fail to see how one extra color adds all that much, when we've been creating all the colors of the rainbow and everything in between for decades with RGB. But if reviews say otherwise I will be a believer.

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Man, I really want to see How to Train your Dragon - and I was actually considering seeing it in 3D.

I've been taking a graphics class this semester, and we just learned about color a couple of weeks ago. I can see how adding yellow is a big deal.

Here is a picture of the RGB gamut. RGB can represent every color in the triangle:



Apparently Sharp is not only adding yellow, but cyan, which will reportedly allow them to represent 99% of the colors visible to the eye.