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KillerGremlin 09-25-2009 06:41 PM

Something Negative
 
I saw this at another forum, and an interesting idea for a thread and for a person's general poor being.

All you need to do is like mention one negative thing that happened to you during the week or even the day just you know to express it.

Most people tend to focus on the positive aspects all too often.

TheGame 09-25-2009 07:20 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Hmm, I guess its bad that I didn't post in the 'something positive' thread though I managed to find an excuse to post in this one. :)

Typhoid 09-25-2009 07:23 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Hahahaha.
+Rep.

ZebraRampage 09-25-2009 08:03 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
I guess I'm responsible for this idea considering my last two posts in the positive thread.

Fox 6 09-25-2009 08:26 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Have a shit ton of homework due next week. :(

Bond 09-25-2009 09:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 257813)
Have a shit ton of homework due next week. :(

Same.

DeathsHand 09-25-2009 11:19 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
I think I'm an alcoholic.

KillerGremlin 09-26-2009 12:30 PM

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Alcoholism and homework? Yeesh you guys have good lives if that's the worst of your problems :p.

I also have a lot of homework....it kind of sprung on me out of nowhere starting last week. I have tons of reading, a few long-term homework assignments, my first paper...bleh.

Combine 017 09-26-2009 12:56 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathsHand (Post 257817)
I think I'm an alcoholic.

Welcome to the club. :D

But I dont think ill be getting drunk this weekend.
And so ends my streak of being drunk every weekend. :(

BreakABone 09-26-2009 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Combine 017 (Post 257826)
Welcome to the club. :D

But I dont think ill be getting drunk this weekend.
And so ends my streak of being drunk every weekend. :(

Then don't end the streak!
Get drunk on your own!
You can do it!

As for me, the usual crappy job situation, no callbacks from places applied (or the ones I want)

Swan 09-26-2009 06:24 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
One of my testicles is much larger than the other one.

DeathsHand 09-27-2009 12:23 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Combine 017 (Post 257826)
Welcome to the club. :D

I spent $100 this week that should have gone to my parents to help cover college expenses in order for me to go to my favorite bar 6 nights in a row to talk with creepy people about how Arlington is full of yuppies who should die.
Because I have no self control.

But in reality, other than that, my life has been good as of late...
So yeah, "alcoholism and homework"...
No, I don't have it all that bad.

KillerGremlin 09-27-2009 04:09 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 257842)
One of my testicles is much larger than the other one.

One of my balls also isn't pulling it's weight.

Dylflon 09-27-2009 05:45 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Two/almost three weeks behind in my reading from being on student film sets. So I'm somewhere between 205-300 pages behind in reading...

Fucking upper division classes.

KillerGremlin 09-29-2009 07:42 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
I've been counting calories and trying to diet...sticking to complex carbs, lean meats like fish and chicken and turkey....I'm having some confusion because everyone says sugar is bad, but natural yummies like fruits and milk are loaded with sugar. Is it okay that I get a lot of sugar from 3 or 4 servings of fruit and 1 or 2 servings of milk daily? I figure fruit and milk is natural...and the sugar in them is different than the refined sugar in processed garbage that comes in a wrapper.

Dieting is so damn confusing.

magus113 09-29-2009 11:22 PM

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After just getting my car back from the body shop I need to see why the stupid iPod connecting for my aftermarket stereo is being a jerk, which sucks because it's proprietary and I'd have to take the stupid thing out.

Can't afford it though because my paycheck that I got on Friday still doesn't cover my previous overdrafts so I'm still in the red.

Typhoid 09-30-2009 06:49 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 257947)
I've been counting calories and trying to diet...sticking to complex carbs, lean meats like fish and chicken and turkey....I'm having some confusion because everyone says sugar is bad, but natural yummies like fruits and milk are loaded with sugar. Is it okay that I get a lot of sugar from 3 or 4 servings of fruit and 1 or 2 servings of milk daily? I figure fruit and milk is natural...and the sugar in them is different than the refined sugar in processed garbage that comes in a wrapper.

Dieting is so damn confusing.

First off, don't diet. Just change the way you eat.

Secondly, sugar is fine. Fat is fine. Everything is fine. It's moderation that determines it. Clearly candy and chocolate bars aren't the best thing for you, but having a Coffee Crisp won't send you 15 pounds overweight. Having 2 a day, however - will.

The main killer is pop, and juice. Personally, I don't drink pop anymore, maybe a couple times a month, but that's about it. Considering it's mostly sugar, it's one of the worst things you can have on a regular basis.

Natural sugars are just as bad for you as sugar that's loaded in every-day crap, but you'll eat less fruit on average for that type of sugar to ever become a problem with weight gain or tooth decay.

The things to stay away from, is pretty much just things like pop and ice cream. Switch to lean meat hamburgers (if you make your own), and try use lean meat in cooking instead of "regular" meat. Eat fish, rice, pasta, toast, cereal, lean meats, salads, soups.

If you don't like the monotony of those things, do what I did and take up cooking for yourself, and experiment with adding spices/sauces to things to change them entirely.

In the end, it's just about moderation and discretion. But no "diet" will cause you to lose weight without exercise. Exercise is clearly the most important thing if your goal is to lose weight, and not just eat healthier.

Angrist 09-30-2009 06:58 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
I'm pretty sure I've heard refined sugar is worse than natural sugars. Maybe it doesn't have more calories, but there's something worse about it.

And I mostly agree with Typhoid. Don't think you can't touch any fat food ever again. Just eat less of it. Replace it with healthier stuff, like carrots.

ZebraRampage 09-30-2009 10:05 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Yeah, as for losing weight, it really is exercise and moderation of food intake. I know it does matter what you eat to some degree, but it's mainly the moderation that's the key.

magus113 09-30-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
I actually have the most trouble gaining weight and keeping weight on. I have Cystic Fibrosis, so my digestive system doesn't work like it should. So I'm always on supplements and high calorie/high fat diets to add more weight and keep it up.

KillerGremlin 09-30-2009 11:06 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 257970)
First off, don't diet. Just change the way you eat.

Secondly, sugar is fine. Fat is fine. Everything is fine. It's moderation that determines it. Clearly candy and chocolate bars aren't the best thing for you, but having a Coffee Crisp won't send you 15 pounds overweight. Having 2 a day, however - will.

The main killer is pop, and juice. Personally, I don't drink pop anymore, maybe a couple times a month, but that's about it. Considering it's mostly sugar, it's one of the worst things you can have on a regular basis.

Natural sugars are just as bad for you as sugar that's loaded in every-day crap, but you'll eat less fruit on average for that type of sugar to ever become a problem with weight gain or tooth decay.

The things to stay away from, is pretty much just things like pop and ice cream. Switch to lean meat hamburgers (if you make your own), and try use lean meat in cooking instead of "regular" meat. Eat fish, rice, pasta, toast, cereal, lean meats, salads, soups.

If you don't like the monotony of those things, do what I did and take up cooking for yourself, and experiment with adding spices/sauces to things to change them entirely.

In the end, it's just about moderation and discretion. But no "diet" will cause you to lose weight without exercise. Exercise is clearly the most important thing if your goal is to lose weight, and not just eat healthier.

Yeah...this is good advice. I actually am not "dieting" per se, it is more of a permanent lifestyle change. I'm just trying to stay in my recommended calorie intake. I'm not going to any extremes, and with 1800-2400 calories allowed daily, I have a lot of options in terms of cooking. I'm trying to make this a change I can keep up with for the rest of my life.

I have been cooking a lot of fun foods with Chicken, Turkey, and Fish. You can make some amazing meals with Tuna. And you can do a lot of things with chicken and turkey that you normally think of doing with beef; things like Chili, or Tacos. And someday in the near future I'm going to try out some exotic Turkey Burger recipes.

I've been avoiding pop and candy like the plague...I know that seems like a no brainer, but last year I REALLY went overboard with the pop. And I don't like ice cream all that much so that one is easy for me to avoid. :p I'm also staying away from chips as much as possible...I tend to binge on those.

I also enjoy cooking. One nice thing about pursuing better eating habits is it does open up a window of cool new recipes and sauces and spices.

Quote:

Originally Posted by magus113 (Post 257981)
I actually have the most trouble gaining weight and keeping weight on. I have Cystic Fibrosis, so my digestive system doesn't work like it should. So I'm always on supplements and high calorie/high fat diets to add more weight and keep it up.

Heh, my friend has an a ridiculous metabolism so he has to eat like 3000 to 4000 calories a day to maintain weight. You guys must poop a lot.

KillerGremlin 09-30-2009 11:09 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZebraRampage (Post 257980)
Yeah, as for losing weight, it really is exercise and moderation of food intake. I know it does matter what you eat to some degree, but it's mainly the moderation that's the key.

Moderation is the key for long-term success I think. That's why I have been trying to diet by keeping an eye on calories and still eating a balance of carbs, meats, fruits, veggies and dairy. I can't buy into the Atkins diet or all these other diet fads...some of them sound good, but for the long term I think I would give in.

Angrist 09-30-2009 11:26 AM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 257984)
And I don't like ice cream all that much so that one is easy for me to avoid. :p

Hah, we must be the only 2 in the world!

I don't get people's love for ice cream. I'll eat it and I'll like it, but you won't get me excited about it.

magus113 09-30-2009 12:00 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 257984)
Heh, my friend has an a ridiculous metabolism so he has to eat like 3000 to 4000 calories a day to maintain weight. You guys must poop a lot.

Haha understatement.

TheGame 09-30-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Just count calories and set a limit for yourself, and eat what you want. When you realize that bad stuff doesn't fill you up and costs tons of calories, you'll eventually move into eating better.

And on that note... I let myself go crazy yesterday. Ate 4,400ish calories. (I aim for 2,200-2,400)

Milkshakes are baaaaad.

Thespis721 09-30-2009 02:46 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Typhoid 09-30-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGame (Post 258007)
Just count calories and set a limit for yourself,

Counting calories is actually really bad, and in many cases leads to obsession with your calorie intake, followed by a form of purging (be it throwing up or extreme exercise).

My advice would be don't count calories, and don't weigh yourself every day (Weight is actually a terrible way to judge size, considering muscle weighs much more), instead - just make an estimated guess of what you should and shouldn't be eating.

I count calories, and because of it I only eat 1 meal a day, and after eating more than 1 meal, I'll work out for 3 or 4 hours. Don't count calories, my advice.

TheGame 09-30-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 258014)
Counting calories is actually really bad, and in many cases leads to obsession with your calorie intake, followed by a form of purging (be it throwing up or extreme exercise).

My advice would be don't count calories, and don't weigh yourself every day (Weight is actually a terrible way to judge size, considering muscle weighs much more), instead - just make an estimated guess of what you should and shouldn't be eating.

I count calories, and because of it I only eat 1 meal a day, and after eating more than 1 meal, I'll work out for 3 or 4 hours. Don't count calories, my advice.

Only eat one meal? Then you don't eat enough calories (unless you pig out bad). Plus if you don't eat at least 3 decently spread out meals per day, you run the risk of killing your metabolism and making your body hold onto fat.

Calorie counting, and knowing your intake vs your output.. is the basic scientific way of losing weight.

TheSlyMoogle 09-30-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 257842)
One of my testicles is much larger than the other one.

Err that's actually the norm for men.

Today I couldn't find Trump tower in Chicago, and it's a fucking giant tower... FML.

BreakABone 09-30-2009 05:43 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 258019)
Err that's actually the norm for men.

Today I couldn't find Trump tower in Chicago, and it's a fucking giant tower... FML.

one.. why are you in Chicago

Two.. how the hell did you miss that? :lol:

As for me, since I was apparently working way too many hours this week (not at all yet), they decided to cut one of my days so only working twice this week. I need someone to call me back with a job offer. :(

Typhoid 09-30-2009 06:15 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGame (Post 258017)
Only eat one meal? Then you don't eat enough calories (unless you pig out bad). Plus if you don't eat at least 3 decently spread out meals per day, you run the risk of killing your metabolism and making your body hold onto fat.

Calorie counting, and knowing your intake vs your output.. is the basic scientific way of losing weight.

I'm aware it's not healthy to eat 1 meal a day. My point was more it started when I started counting calories and got obsessed with it. Which is why I said "Don't count calories, just estimate."

KillerGremlin 09-30-2009 07:15 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 257986)
Hah, we must be the only 2 in the world!

I don't get people's love for ice cream. I'll eat it and I'll like it, but you won't get me excited about it.

Yeah...I have to REALLY be craving Ice Cream and when I am I go all out and get something really unhealthy at Coldstone or DQ or Baskin Robins. I like fruit smoothies though...homemade ones, that is. Jamba Juice is such a fucking rip off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 258019)
Err that's actually the norm for men.

Today I couldn't find Trump tower in Chicago, and it's a fucking giant tower... FML.

It's on the river.



I'm actually counting calories so I can eat 7 smaller and more balanced meals throughout the day. I have not read a single good thing about limiting yourself to 3 huge meals in a day. Every source suggests the best way to go is smaller portions spread across the day to keep your metabolism going and your hunger suppressed. I have no intentions of weening down to 1 meal...I have considered the option of not eating for a day to binge on a pizza or something but I doubt I will resort to that. :p

And on that note...once I drop my weight into a more healthy range, I will stop counting calories. I've attempted diets before without counting calories or taking servings into consideration, and it is incredible how much excess I would eat. Right now my BMI is not too hot and neither is my weight. I'm trying to cut fat and increase muscle without bulking up too much. That means lean meats and the occasional protein shake (for muscle), lots of whole grains, fruits and veggies for carbs (energy to run), and some fat to keep everything balanced.

I'm only adding 1 serving of protein 3 days a week after I lift (23 grams of protein), and right now my body doesn't seem to like the whey protein. Anyone have firsthand experience? I hate reading shit on bodybuilding forums and google is incredibly biased for this stuff.

TheGame 09-30-2009 07:28 PM

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I usually eat at least 100 grams of protein per day. And yeah eating smaller spread out meals are best, but you want at least 3 meals. If you're doing 2 or 1 it's counter productive. I'm personally not a fan of whey, or any products that are built to increase protein. I just got most of mine through lean meats, nuts, and milk.

I go to the gym 5 days a week, Mon-Fri morning.

KillerGremlin 09-30-2009 07:34 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGame (Post 258035)
I usually eat at least 100 grams of protein per day. And yeah eating smaller spread out meals are best, but you want at least 3 meals. If you're doing 2 or 1 it's counter productive. I'm personally not a fan of whey, or any products that are built to increase protein. I just got most of mine through lean meats, nuts, and milk.

I go to the gym 5 days a week, Mon-Fri morning.

Yeah. I've read a whole bunch of stuff about protein, some sources say you should get .8g x your body weight, some say 1 to 1.5. I think it's the FDA or something that says 50grams a day, but I think that's kind of low. If I do the .8 thing I'm at:

220lbs (approx. 99kg) x .8 = 80grams of Protein. But on heavy lift days I want to kick that up to around 90-100grams to build muscle...

Even with skim milk, nuts, and a dinner with a lean meat, I find that I still occasionally have difficulty reaching that limit...hence the Whey.

But I'm getting bloating and constipation and if that shit keeps up then I'm ditching the weigh and just adding an extra serving of cottage cheese or oatmeal into my diet on lift days.

Oh, and I have a big breakfast, a snack, a big snack or a lunch, dinner, a snack, and if I need to a snack.

KillerGremlin 09-30-2009 08:07 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
By the way, TheGame...so far my routine is:

Monday: 15min Cardio, Squats, Deadlifts, Bench, Rows, Biceps

Tuesday: 30min Cardio, leg stretches

Wednesday: 15min Cardio, Squats, Deadlifts, Bench, Rows, Triceps

Thursday: 30min Cardio, leg stretches

Friday: 15min Cardio, Squats, Deadlifts, Bench, Rows, Shoulders

Saturday: 30min option cardio: stairmaster, bike, elliptical

Sunday: football (as in sit on my ass and watch it :D)

Also...my reps and current weight (i'm going for good form, I see so many people with huge weight but horrible form...so that's why the low weight on some of these)

bench: 135 x 10, 145 x 8, 155 x 6 (pathetic, I can't do my own weight!)
squats: 125 x 6, 135 x 6, 145 x 6 (this will go up soon)
deadlift: 145 x 6, 155 x 6, 165 x 6
rows: 6 x 60 x 3

And the option lifts don't matter so much...just typical curls and shrugs and stuff. At one point I was able to bicep curl the bar at 95x10x10. That's 100 reps at 95lbs. I could also do a few reps at 135lbs, haha....but I was fat! Back when I lifted I neglected cardio and diet and I got fat! That's what I'm making up for now.

At one point this summer I think I was tipping the scale at like 260 or 265. I had a gut (still do) and my pecs were becoming tits.

Tits = best motivation.

I'm 6'1" btw, 220lbs, pretty big build....shooting for around 200lbs with muscle and more cardio endurance.

Combine 017 09-30-2009 08:34 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
The best way to lose weight is to not be fat in the first place.
That or liposuction.

TheGame 09-30-2009 08:38 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
I'm 6'3", I put on a lot of weight though. Sitting at 250 now (I was 255 3 weeks ago). I've been into weights pretty crazy like since HS. At one point I was 230lbs and was below 10% body fat. My lean body mass is very high.

Having a desk job, slacking on the gym, and eating like I work out 8 hours a day = weight gain.. no matter how good my metabolism was. lol

I'm trying to get back down to 230 or less again. When I gain weight it goes straight to my gut now.

Combine 017 09-30-2009 08:49 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Im around 6'1" and I only weigh 130.
But im going to assume that you guys are older and a lot stronger than me. :p

magus113 09-30-2009 08:58 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Combine 017 (Post 258049)
Im around 6'1" and I only weigh 130.
But im going to assume that you guys are older and a lot stronger than me. :p

I weigh the same but I'm 6 inches smaller than you.

TheGame 09-30-2009 09:27 PM

Re: Something Negative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Combine 017 (Post 258049)
Im around 6'1" and I only weigh 130.
But im going to assume that you guys are older and a lot stronger than me. :p

Haha yeah. Though you should go to the gym. The advantage to being skinny is.. if you work out, you'll notice every little tiny change. :) Heck you could probably do push ups every day for a few weeks and notice your chest sticking out.


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