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Bond 06-16-2009 10:28 PM

Mafia Round 4 - Six Million Forms of Communication
 


Day Five

Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat.

In the words of the Rebel Alliance…

Stranded on Tatooine. Day 48.

This is the forty-eighth day that I have been separated from my Rebel fleet.

My spirits are low, and my rations are even lower.

*C-3PO picks up a plaque that R2-D2 gave to him at the start of the war, it reads:*

“It is always darkest just before the dawn, but the dawn is coming.”

“Ha, what a cruel joke that has become,” says C-3PO.

*A loud bang at the front door is heard.*

“Oh, no! The Stormtroopers have finally found me, I must exit the back door!”

*C-3PO attempts to leave, but is surrounded by Stormtroopers on all sides.*

“This is a misunderstanding, my Galatic friends,” lies C-3PO.

“I am a terrific protocol droid! I fluently speak over…”

*C-3PO is shot dead.*

In the words of the Galactic Empire…

Five years earlier.

*From C-3PO's Journal.*

Admiral Ackbar has been discovered. He was a double agent, working for the Galactic Empire.

As an android, I always found something fishy about him, perhaps it was because he looked like a fish?

Right before the door opened below his feet to be hanged, he was said to have screamed:

"IT'S A TRAP!"

---

The Dead

Fyacin - C-3PO (Vigilante) - Killed by the Mafia in round three
BreakABone - Admiral Ackbar (Mafia) - Killed by the vote in round three

Previously Dead

Ric - Darth Vader (Villager) - Killed by the Vigilante in round two
Darmani - Darth Maul (Villager) - Killed by the Mafia in round two
Combine - Jango Fett (Mafia) - Killed by the vote in round two
Typhoid – Luke Skywalker (Guardian) – Killed by the Mafia in round one
Manasecret – Lando Calrissian (Villager) – Killed by the vote in round one


Player / Character List

1. jeepnut - Padme Amidala
2. Dylflon - Chewbacca
3. Teuthida - Boba Fett
4. tornadothrasher - Jabba the Hutt
5. thatmariolover - Obi-Wan Kenobi
6. Bube - Princess Leia Organa
7. Nighthawk - Emperor Palpatine
8. Swan - R2-D2
9. Angrist - Han Solo
10. The Germanator - Yoda
11. BlueFire - General Grievous
12. Vampyr - Qui-Gon Jinn


This round will end tomorrow, Wednesday June 17th, at 10:30 pm ET / 9:30 pm CT / 7:30 pm PT.

Make sure to get at least two posts in and your vote.

BreakABone 06-16-2009 10:31 PM

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At least, I was correct on the two powerhouses. :cool:

Fun game.
Can't wait for next.


Dylflon 06-16-2009 10:32 PM

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OH THANK GOD!

Wow...

And I hit another good normal.

So we have a network of three.

Good work on the votes, everyone.

Teuthida 06-16-2009 10:34 PM

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Kind of figured BAB was but we had an agreement I wouldn't vote for him unless I was absolutely certain.

What I find weird is the mafia seems to be really good at going after the specials...and I think I might know how...and that bothers me.

I have to go review the voting pattern from the last round.

The Germanator 06-16-2009 10:36 PM

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Good job, good guys! We almost let that get away. Unfortunately we lost Fyacin, but if play it well we still have the 10-2 advantage, we just have to figure some things out.

Fyacin 06-16-2009 10:40 PM

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I saw that coming actually.
...
Can't say more.
Good luck guys, I think we can win this!

Dylflon 06-16-2009 10:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Germanator (Post 252925)
Good job, good guys! We almost let that get away. Unfortunately we lost Fyacin, but if play it well we still have the 10-2 advantage, we just have to figure some things out.

We have 4-5 rounds to vote two more mafia out. So we're going to have to be pretty efficient.

Vampyr 06-16-2009 10:45 PM

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Eh? How is the mafia so good at getting specials? Why did Fyacin see it coming?

I think our dudes trusted the wrong evil dude.

I think this vindicates Jeepnut since he attacked BaB from the beginning.

I also feel like BaB was playing Dylflon a little bit here, and I'm more trusting of him after the last round.

I think we need to look at other people who have been flying under the radar. Angrist suspected BlueFire last time...might want to check out some of his old posts.

Swan 06-16-2009 10:47 PM

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Man, I always end up trusting the wrong people.

Though from reading the previous threads I came to my conclusion mostly on my own though the penguin prodded a little.



Hmm, who to trust now.

jeepnut 06-16-2009 11:09 PM

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Whew! That was an exciting round. I'm just glad I was right about BreakaBone. I was sure he was mafia, but I was awfully worried about what would happen if I was wrong.

I really would like to know who seems to have infiltrated the ring of specials. It would seem the mafia's killing of the guardian and the vigilante was not a coincidence.

Now, who to target next? I still have my suspicions about Swan, BlueFire, tornadothrasher, and Nighthawk, but my convictions on any of them are not nearly as strong as they were on BaBs since I never spoke with any of them. We have a lot to consider friends...

Dylflon 06-17-2009 03:31 AM

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Well, this will most likely be my last round.

I'm considering announcing the normal good guys I seered. Granted, they will be targeted after I'm out of the game, but at least the village wouldn't waste time voting for them.

I need a public opinion here.

Bube 06-17-2009 05:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylflon (Post 252942)
Well, this will most likely be my last round.

I'm considering announcing the normal good guys I seered. Granted, they will be targeted after I'm out of the game, but at least the village wouldn't waste time voting for them.

I need a public opinion here.

Why would they be targeted? They can already be targeted, can't they?

And I have something big to announce, but don't know if I should directly point at people. Might be dangerous.

Nighthawk 06-17-2009 07:08 AM

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Yeah so trusted the wrong guy... but he was the only one who contacted me and discussed things over with... that's what happens when you keep me out of the loop.

jeepnut 06-17-2009 07:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylflon (Post 252942)
Well, this will most likely be my last round.

I'm considering announcing the normal good guys I seered. Granted, they will be targeted after I'm out of the game, but at least the village wouldn't waste time voting for them.

I need a public opinion here.

If you have information, you need to share it. Whether you do it publicly or privately is up to you.

Vampyr 06-17-2009 07:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bube (Post 252945)
Why would they be targeted? They can already be targeted, can't they?

And I have something big to announce, but don't know if I should directly point at people. Might be dangerous.

He means targeted by the mafia. Once the mafia knows who is in an alliance, they'll shoot those guys down first to remove cohesiveness in the villagers.

That being said, I don't know who to vote for at the moment. I was going to go for Dylflon, but after the last round I don't think so anymore.

Angrist 06-17-2009 07:47 AM

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Ok, that was an intense round. I was actually thinking that the mafia had put up Jeepnut and BaB against eachother and that they were both innocent.

Now that we have caught 2 mafiosi, it should be easier to find patterns in the previous rounds.

BlueFire, yes I think you're suspicious because you're indecisive. You're also always raising suspicion, but never voting. It appears that BaB did the same, convincing people without sticking his own head out.
You also voted a few times without giving good reasons. On people who we now know were innocent.

Admittedly, I also voted for innocent. I was telling BaB about that over MSN yesterday... people seemed to follow my voting in round 1 and 2. I remembered what Manasecret had said in the sign-up thread, so it was a 'safe' vote.
In round 2 I suddenly remembered I hadn't voted yet, while I was at a friend and we were about to go to the cinema. I quickly logged in on his laptop and needed to cast a vote. Ric didn't have any votes yet, and because he talked so much, he caught my attention.
I would personally be more suspicious of the people who added to the count (TML, Vampyr, BaB, Dylflon).

I was suspicious of Vampyr, but he made the decisive vote against BaB. Again, that would be a very daring strategy of the mafia.

About Dylflon.... he's been saying for 3 rounds that this round will be his last. His end never came. But again, we can always kill him off later, when there's just 1 mafiosi left.

Vampyr 06-17-2009 09:24 AM

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I was most suspicious of Dylflon the entire last round, I admit. However, if you look my votes, I had my vote cast for BaB almost the entire day, only switching to Dyl a couple of times.

It turned out not to be a strategy whenever Jeepnut voted for combine (although I thought it was too, for a while).

I think people we need to look are the ones like you said: people who seem indecisive or gave their votes without reason.

Specifically, I am looking at Nighthawk and thatmariolover, both of which voted for Jeepnut in the last round.

Nighthawk's reasoning was 'I'm going to vote without thinking too much about it'

ThatMarioLover's vote for jeepnut came in a little before BaB's...and I don't think he ever changed it. In the last round, Jeepnut was the best hope that the mafia had for voting off a villager, since it was a racing tie between him and BaB. I think we should look at people who voted for him. If I had been in the mafia, I could have switched my vote from Dyl to Jeepnut, and tied things up to save BaB.

So, for the moment:

!vote Nighthawk

Vampyr 06-17-2009 09:28 AM

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By the way, who were the four people who voted for jeepnut?

I -think- it was:

BaB (dead) (mafia)
Nighthawk
TML
Swan

It would make sense that the two remaining mafia were two of the other three.

The Germanator 06-17-2009 10:49 AM

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Indeed, I think you're on the right track, Vampyr. Those three have been fairly quiet and that's usually a pretty good and dangerous tactic when you are Mafia because you slip between the cracks. I'm not sure I'm ready to vote now, but I think I might head in that direction.

We may have to be wary of the people who voted who, what I would call, "gave their votes away" Someone like Bluefire who voted for someone who had no chance of getting voted out. This takes him away from any suspicion because he didn't vote for Jeepnut or against Bab...I dunno, it's a different kind of strategy. I might have to take a look at round 3 again to see how the votes played out.

Angrist 06-17-2009 11:48 AM

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Ok here's what I think. Feel free to add. Dylflon, how about that information you've been promising for 2 rounds now?

1. jeepnut - Padme Amidala --> good guy
2. Dylflon - Chewbacca --> either the seer, or very smart mafia
3. Teuthida - Boba Fett --> not sure. He makes too complicated theories to be mafia imo.
4. tornadothrasher - Jabba the Hutt --> no idea. Terribly quiet. !Clarification He also missed a post in 2 rounds, doesn't that disqualify him?
5. thatmariolover - Obi-Wan Kenobi --> no idea.
6. Bube - Princess Leia Organa --> good guy
7. Nighthawk - Emperor Palpatine --> no idea
8. Swan - R2-D2 --> no idea
9. Angrist - Han Solo --> good guy, and handsome too
10. The Germanator - Yoda --> good guy
11. BlueFire - General Grievous --> suspicious in my book, but no idea tbh
12. Vampyr - Qui-Gon Jinn --> good guy

I used to love being online around the deadline, for some last minute action. But I'll have to get my vote in right now.
Just give me a few minutes to think and maybe wait for a reaction.

Angrist 06-17-2009 12:02 PM

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Ok, assuming that mafia like to be in the background, and because tornadothrasher voted Dylflon twice (and he even missed his vote in round 2??), I'll go with him.

And this time don't follow me and make me look bad. :mad:
!Vote tornadothrasher

Vampyr 06-17-2009 12:07 PM

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I feel like you might want to vote for someone else because Bond may kill him anyway since he should be disqualified.

Angrist 06-17-2009 12:12 PM

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Nah I read the rules, you have to be inactive for more than 2 rounds.
I don't really understand why Swan got his final warning, when he was only inactive in 1 round.

Anyway, I have to go home and cook diner. See you and the results tomorrow.

Nighthawk 06-17-2009 12:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 252958)
Nighthawk's reasoning was 'I'm going to vote without thinking too much about it'

well I said that not to get too much attention in case Bab got voted out and was good. the thing is, I talked things over with Bab and I was convinced that he was good. As I said before, I was tricked, and Bab new how to manipulate the new guy... not that he tried hard, I guess I just wanted to trust him. my bad.

jeepnut 06-17-2009 12:50 PM

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Still waiting on Dylflon's info to help me make a decision. I beginning to wonder why he hasn't shared anything yet.

tornadothrasher 06-17-2009 01:08 PM

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I know, Jabba isn't usually too quiet of a dude but honestly, I've never played mafia before and instead of pissing everyone off by doing stupid things/not knowing too many people on GT, I'm just trying to roll through the game and figure some stuff out.

thatmariolover 06-17-2009 01:12 PM

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I have to be totally honesty, BaB had me duped. I believed him.

On the other hand, he also told me to trust Dylflon, which makes me trust him even less than I already do. I'd suggest we vote Dylflon off unless he can illuminate us with his Seer skills. I think it's possible Dylflon claimed he was the Seer in order to draw the real Seer out in anger so that the mafia could kill him off.

!vote Dylflon

Bube 06-17-2009 01:25 PM

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All right, here's my "big" thing.

Fyacin told me, Germy and jeepnut that he was the vigilante. And got killed. Make of that what you will. I don't know if he had told anybody else. Or if it was a lucky guess by the mafia.

But seeing how everybody voted for Combine and BaB (I didn't, I know, but I was manipulated by him, unfortunately), I'm not really sure.

I'm quite suspicious of BlueFire, and I !vote BLuefire.

Vampyr 06-17-2009 01:28 PM

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!retract Nighthawk

!vote tornadothrasher

Okay, so...we have a situations where everyone who voted for Jeepnut (except swan so far) is like "lol BaB tricked me".

I'm halfway to believing this, since he tried the same thing with me.

I'm starting to get the feeling that 1 or 2 of the remaining mafia haven't been playing.

thatmariolover 06-17-2009 01:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 252979)
!retract Nighthawk

!vote tornadothrasher

Okay, so...we have a situations where everyone who voted for Jeepnut (except swan so far) is like "lol BaB tricked me".

I'm halfway to believing this, since he tried the same thing with me.

I'm starting to get the feeling that 1 or 2 of the remaining mafia haven't been playing.

I don't really know what to say. I wanted to trust somebody right away, BaB was a bad choice but he was fairly central in the alliance last game so I decided to start with him.

Now, the things BaB wanted me to believe make me suspicious. He was very protective of Dylflon and Vampyr. It was a bit foolish for him to say things like in the event that he was offed. I think the mafia decided since BaB looked so suspicious they were going to off him in the votes. Thus they make two of their own look innocent. After all, they voted for BaB.

That's why I'm holding to my vote for Dylfon. I firmly believe that he and Vampyr are the last two Mafia.

Vampyr 06-17-2009 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thatmariolover (Post 252980)
I don't really know what to say. I wanted to trust somebody right away, BaB was a bad choice but he was fairly central in the alliance last game so I decided to start with him.

Now, the things BaB wanted me to believe make me suspicious. He was very protective of Dylflon and Vampyr. It was a bit foolish for him to say things like in the event that he was offed. I think the mafia decided since BaB looked so suspicious they were going to off him in the votes. Thus they make two of their own look innocent. After all, they voted for BaB.

That's why I'm holding to my vote for Dylfon. I firmly believe that he and Vampyr are the last two Mafia.

...

That has got to be the bizarre theory ever.

!retract Tornadothrasher


!vote thatmariolover

I should have just stuck with my original theory to begin with.

thatmariolover 06-17-2009 01:51 PM

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Is it bizarre? Dylflon even posted at the end of the thread last time that he expected you to change your vote. Which you both conveniently did near the end of the voting cycle.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylflon
I'm actually expecting Vampyr to change his vote back to BaB. If he can react in time.

http://www.gametavern.net/forums/sho...0&postcount=95

Bond 06-17-2009 01:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 252965)
!Clarification He also missed a post in 2 rounds, doesn't that disqualify him?

One more round of inactivity and tornadothrasher would be disqualified. Two more rounds of inactivity and Swan would be disqualified.

Bube 06-17-2009 01:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tornadothrasher (Post 252975)
I know, Jabba isn't usually too quiet of a dude but honestly, I've never played mafia before and instead of pissing everyone off by doing stupid things/not knowing too many people on GT, I'm just trying to roll through the game and figure some stuff out.

No more rolling man, come on, just get in on a theory and vote :D

Vampyr 06-17-2009 02:04 PM

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Yes, it's so much more likely that two mafia would group together to vote off another mafia when they would already be severely outnumbered.

Also, in the last round Dylflon was far and away the most suspicious player, your reasoning that the mafia would have killed BaB because he was being so suspicious is ridiculous.

Also, if BaB had so many people tricked and on his side, which you and several others had already admitted to, wouldn't the mafia want to keep someone like that around instead of killing him and losing so many potential allies?

thatmariolover 06-17-2009 02:10 PM

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No, because it's just like BaB. He would come up with some retardedly complicated plot and even if it involved him dying it would still be him winning because he came up with the plan. That's exactly the way his twisted mind works. And you all know it.

Yes, if it would make the two remaining Mafia look innocent I think that's exactly something that BaB would orchestrate, and indeed did orchestrate in my opinion.

Vampyr 06-17-2009 02:16 PM

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But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

thatmariolover 06-17-2009 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 252988)
But Dylflon never has, nor does he now, look innocent.

Which is why I voted for him.

Vampyr 06-17-2009 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thatmariolover (Post 252989)
Which is why I voted for him.

Yes but now, especially after the last few posts, you look much, much more guilty. Plus you -did- vote for Jeepnut last time, which I find more likely a sign of being in the mafia than some convoluted scheme that BaB supposedly concocted which involved the rest of the Mafia voting for him in order to gain the trust of everyone else.

If that had been the plan, the votes wouldn't have went in at the last second, either.

thatmariolover 06-17-2009 02:43 PM

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How do I look more guilty? Because I pointed out some interesting coincidences? That doesn't make me guilty - it makes me honest. You on the other hand are only interested in shifting the blame to me because I pointed a flashlight on you. You didn't even act like I was guilty until I brought your name into the matter. So if you've got something to say then say it.

But it seems like you're more interested in bringing down the people who are suspicious of you than you are in bringing down the Mafia.


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