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So once every few years I start about my relational life.

So (this is how it always starts) there's this girl. I've liked her for 6 months now (known her for 2 years). She's a strong, beautiful, independent and social woman of 22. Because I didn't want to rush anything, contact between us was minimal. I saw her maybe once a month.
But then we both went on a weekend's holiday with 11 others. I went in with little expectations, I was very relaxed. It was awesome. We really talked a lot. Walked side by side on the beach, chatting about our exes for 20 minutes. When we got interupted, I didn't try to start the conversation again. But she always came back to me with a "So you were saying?" She laughed at my silly jokes. We talked about her work, about my study, etc. We did the dishes together.

Anyway, the weekend was over and we kept some contact. I was the first to send a text message, she was the first to mail. In the mail I asked if she wanted to preach together sometime (we're Jehovah's Witnesses as most of you know). The next day we had made an appointed for 2 days later (pretty fast).
That was also great. A perfect continuation of the weekend. We had a lot of fun together and also did some serious stuff. After a while she asked me where I saw myself in 10 years. Was she checking me out?

At the end of the day we said goodbye. We would see eachother in 2 weeks. After that we text messaged for a day or 2, then I didn't hear from her. I was the last to message and e-mail her.

And all this time I'm not really sure if she likes me back. I'm so incredibly afraid that she just likes me as a friend (or religious brother). I talked to a friend about it and he's certain she likes me. The signs are there. I thought it was really special, but maybe she has this much fun with everybody.

So I googled and found this list of points how to know if a girl likes you: http://www.ehow.com/how_2048930_know...likes-you.html

I think I score on all 7 points... so that's reassuring.

I will see her in 2 days, on a congress that lasts for 3 days. After that, we're both invited to a bbq. She might give me a lift, don't know yet. I'm just going to be myself, have fun and maybe I'll get the chance to ask her out for something.

Your thoughts?
Your girls/loves? :)

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Hmmm. It seems like the solution here is to ask her to go somewhere with you not related to your religious activities, and where other people you know aren't going to be around.

If she still has just as much fun with you doing something not related to what you guys usually do, and she still acts the same way, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet she likes you. ^_^

There's always the chance she really likes you, and doesn't really realize it herself yet. In that case, still do what I said, but try to play a little harder to get by getting her to chase you a little, could make her realize that she likes you.

And I have a girlfriend, as most of you know (she even posted a couple of times), and she's just awesome. :D Very much like me in terms of tastes and beliefs (except for music, we like pretty different kinds of music in most cases).

We live together and do geeky things like play video games all the time.

We recently got a Kitten to, which you guys have saw. I have some new pictures I've taken that I need to upload, she's grown a lot. She's still a gamer though, she likes to sit in my lap and watch me play TF2 before she falls asleep.

EDIT: Something else interesting, last night my girlfriend was playing with the StumbleUpon plugin, and she stumbled upon....GameTavern! I was actually the person who added it to the stumble upon database, so that's pretty random and awesome.

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I'm leaving on a two week road trip with my girlfriend on Friday. That should be groovy. We're getting close to the 3 year mark.

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Always going to be a little bit ahead of me. >:|

I forgot to mention, my girlfriend and I are going on a short vacation this weekend, to Biltmore Estate.

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You should go on a vacation to Oregon instead and we could hang out.

Also: come to Canada, jerk-bag.

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I'm beginning to wonder about this Canadian group.
Always trying to get people to visit.
I wonder if they got older members to visit and that's why we haven't seen them around lately. :ohreilly:

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I was thinking about the zoo that's 20 minutes away from both of us. But I'll have to find a relaxed way of asking her... it's something that takes up a whole day.

She's not really a movies-girl, else I would have asked her to see Wall-E. Hm maybe that's still an option. Nah, too much too fast, too cliché.

That one day we preached together, we were together alone, for 4 hours. But you make a good point, it was something we do all the time. She works together with lots of nice guys.

I'll keep you updated on what happens next weekend!

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I have been screwed over by women quite a bit.



But I am young so I screw them right back.


I love being young and full of spunk

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Too many innuendos here to even talk about...

I just got out of a 2.5 years relationship with a girl. It was the best and most fulfilling of my young life, but she had some personal issues a few months ago and decided she couldn't handle being together anymore. I was on tour at the time so there wasn't much to be done about it. Anyway, being single is okay, and I've just kind of focused on myself and getting in shape for my current life is a bachelor. I think I'm the kind of guy who would rather be in a committed relationship, but I'm not really in the mood for the next couple of years unless the right gal comes along

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Er, actually the problem is that the "women" you screw are too young.

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I don't believe meaningful relationships exist at this age and I don't touch people.
Thems my talk about women...

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They are still legal

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It's not a problem of legality but more an issue of maturity on the part of the girls. Most girls who are still in high school are most certainly not mature.

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True true. Hence the intended innuendo

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Yeah I saw her today. Just 2 short chats, nothing special. I hope to get some more contact in the next days. Can't really say any more, except that she was shining like a star.

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Did you get a funny feeling in your pantaloons?

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My feelings for her are 95% between my ears and not in my pants. :D

Shortly talked to her. She was chatting with a guy who she knew she wouldn't see for a long while, so I got little attention (which I understood). But when he was away for 1 minute I made her laugh out loud (I got a oh-you!!-slap :p) and I talked with her friend. She text-messaged me later and we'll probably see eachother a lot more tomorrow.

The way I see it: she's hard to get, but it will get easier further along. In contrast to girls who are easy to get, but cause trouble later on.

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There's this girl I like. She's got a boyfriend. The circumstances of our first meeting were so unreal, I think we kind of have to be together someday. but fuck being a sideline guy so I'm trying to get her outta my head.
And yeah, I'm 22. Had a really fucked up girl for a while and I'm not really recovered from it. I'm probably way to cynical about women but I understand their game..a little. I was going to move to vancouver just to be closer to her but now that my buddy's backed out of the move I think VanIsland and surfing is my lot now instead of being teased and headfucked by a girl who I'm way to infatuated with. I want to tell you guys the story but maybe some other time.

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What....you can't do that. If you bring up a story you have to tell it, it's the rules.

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Especially when we have a sex therapist (or soon to be) on hand. :p

And I personally am always looking for new ways to screw with people's mind.

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So yesterday was great, but I still have this bad taste in my mouth. Again the feeling that she likes me a lot as a friend.

We had a barbecue with 6 others. If there were any 2 people who had the most contact, it was her and me. Talked and laughed a lot. I think everybody understood that I like her.

Her ex was there. He's a nice guy and they're getting along just fine. I think he realized I'm crazy about her. I wonder if that will spread out, and what that will do to her.

Grr, the easy thing to do would be just asking her directly. What's the deal, where am I?

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You probably enjoy what it is now and don't want to possibly ruin it if you ask and get shot down. That's my guess. Getting shot down can lead you to think you'll lose what you have now. I think I repeated myself in a different sense.

Though..in a somewhat similar sense, I had a strange dream last night that I can't get into alot of detail just because I'm still dumbfounded if it means something bound to occur soon from the female side of things. But it involved me, at something like a store or whatever, and some woman talking about me (but in a good way). I think I have an idea why that dream has occurred for the first time in god knows how long, but I don't want to get too explainy just because its a personal thing in explaining it fully.

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I talked with a friend about it. I came to the conclusion that I need to act fast. This is driving me crazy, she's all I can think about. She's on my mind every minute.

The plan is I e-mail her about some stuff. She mails back, hopefully in a nice way. I mail back and ask her if she wants to preach together with me again. If she says yes and we meet, I'm going to make it a nice day and somewhere past the middle I'll steer the conversation towards her and guys. And then I'll say that I'd like to know her better. That should be clear enough and I'll know what to expect.

How's that for a plan?

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I think if you throw in enough "gee whiz"'es and "golly"'s it'd sound like a plan straight out of a 50s sitcom.

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Angrist, do you want my opinion?
It sounds like you are looking for love, or some sort of perfect relationship. But, love isn't a game of chess. Love is a game of baseball...you won't know you've found love and then BAM! The pitcher throws a 99 mile per hour fast ball and it hits you in your fucking head and you'll be on the ground dazed and confused, and then you will know that you are in love.

My point is, the more you sit here and analyze the situation, the more you fabricate hypothetical scenarios in your mind where she either secretly is madly in love with you, or she has no interest in you at all. Likely, it is somewhere in the middle. So, instead of playing chess, play ball. Ask her on a straight up dinner date. Forget preaching...dinner > preaching, at least as far as date material goes.

By the way, here are some signs she likes you. Rather than focusing on signs you manifest in your mind, see if you can find some of these.
-Is she touchy-feely with you? Does she touch your arm a lot or touch your shoulder?
-Do you make on-and-off eye contact? Do you catch her constantly looking at you?
-Does she mimic you....when you do something does she do the same thing?
-Does she laugh at the stupid and horribly lame things you say...say something that's not funny, and see if she laughs.

Those are all pretty decent sub conscience indicators that she is attracted to you. Surprise surprise, regardless of what moral/religious platform you stand on, people still exert sub conscience signs of attraction.

So, your next post to this thread better be, "yes I asked her to dinner" or "yes she does touch my shoulder a lot."

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She touches my arm a lot and laughs at my sometimes bad jokes. :p The eye-contact is great.

Yeah good point. Thanks for the advice about playing ball. :D Maybe I better ask her to do something fun. But I'd rather ask it in person and not over the mail. And I don't see her often enough for that. Maybe I should call her and then ask.

(darn, your post made me feel pretty stupid... but I needed that, thanks!)

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I only now stumbled into this topic and read all of it, and I would have to pretty much agree with everything KG said here, apparently you do as well, which is good.

You just need to man up and act on things, lets say she is interested, you not acting out could DEFINITELY let that interest fade away.

And yes, actually going out somewhere out of your normal life cycle would be the best option, make it a date, make it official.

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Going to call her tomorrow morning (it's 00:00AM now) and ask her if she wants to do something fun.

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Hope that all works out well for you, Grist. I get that friend stuff a lot, so maybe you'll find your way out of it.

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Ok so I called, had a small chat and then asked her if she wanted to do something fun.

-... (silence) ... depends on what it is
oh I don't know...
- well, come up with something!
hm maybe a restaurant or something like that
- ah ok. Hm you surprise me a bit, I'll have to think about it
yeah sure! let me hear when you know!
- I will!
Bye etc.

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Word to the wise.
Next time you ask someone if they want to do something fun.
You should have that something fun picked out in advance.

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Unless you're willing to default to "sexy time".

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I'm flattered Vamp, but this.. is akward...

So let's pretend it never happened. :p

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That probably went through her head wondering WTF he meant when the silence hit :lolz:

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Hehe possible. :D

Haven't heard of her yet. I'm starting to fear for an e-mail. Well, that doesn't have to be bad. We'll see. I'm not as scared as before I asked.

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It usually takes the first step to let all the weight off. Let's hope for the best.

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Ok, latest update: she sent me a text-message to tell me she'll call me tomorrow (she's too tired atm). Sleep tight! etc.

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So, your game plan is to figure out a kick ass restaurant to take her out to, and when you talk to her on the phone tomorrow ask her out to it. And, you need to clarify that this is a date. Clarify that YOU are taking her out.

Also...you don't want to go out with a loaded gun...have you seen There's Something About Mary...? ;)

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Ah good point, picking a restaurant. There's a good Greek one here in my town. There's also a good pizzeria, but a friend said that's not romantic enough (I don't see why, I've been there and it's pretty nice).

But I don't really want to let her come to my town. That way she'll probably also want to pick me up with her car. I feel like it hurts me in my independence and manly behavior.

There are some restaurants in a town between hers and mine, but I don't know the good ones. But I could ask a friend who lives there.
I could also go for one where she lives... but the closer we get to her, the bigger the chance she's already been there.

And no, driving over to her to pick her up with my car isn't an option. No license, no car. :D