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BreakABone 05-24-2008 10:36 AM

The Problem With Sequels
 
Another fun-filled morning of work has left me bored and thinking about sequels while watching Die Hard.

And I realize the two biggest pitfalls with most sequels
1)Change in tone from the original.
2)Trying to remake the original.

Now, I'm sure this won't be the way with all sequels but look at most of the sequels people have issues with and I'm sure one of those two results will come up.

Die Hard 2 was Die Hard in an airport. Temple of Doom became rather dark and gloomy and enclosed. Batman Returns (even though I prefer it) was darker than the original which resulted in Forever and the other one. The Matrix Reloaded tried to be as important as the original and fell flat on its face.

Even in video games, Prince of Persia 2 went darker and that didn't work out as well. Super Mario Bros 2 and Zelda 2 changed the core gameplay. While argubably good games in their own regards had very little influence on the rest of the franchise.

Just something thought about while here.

Angrist 05-24-2008 10:59 AM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Mario Bros 2 originally wasn't even a Mario game. And it still isn't in Japan.

KillerGremlin 05-26-2008 10:46 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Spiderman 2 was much better than Spiderman, and X-Men 2 was much better than X-Men. Also, in my opinion The Empire Strikes Back was THE BEST movie in the Star Wars trilogy. Also, I thought that The Two Towers was the best of Jackson's three films.

For the most part, sequels never are as good as the original. Especially if the sequel is totally unnecessary as is often the case.

Aladuf 05-26-2008 10:51 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Sequels can be fine, take a look at Home Alone 2. It cranked the shit up to 11 and it's definetly my favorite one.

And on the gaming side of things Gears of War 2 looks like it's gonna wipe the floor with Gears 1

Renwood 05-26-2008 10:54 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
The Drawing of the Three was a better book than The Gunslinger.

Sort of.

Aladuf 05-26-2008 10:56 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Oh shit! Also (idk how I could forget this) Spiderman 3 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other two. James Franco really shined there.

GameMaster 05-26-2008 10:57 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Toy Story 2 was better than Toy Story 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aladuf
Oh shit! Also (idk how I could forget this) Spiderman 3 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other two. James Franco really shined there.


BreakABone 05-26-2008 10:57 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aladuf (Post 224564)
Oh shit! Also (idk how I could forget this) Spiderman 3 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the other two. James Franco really shined there.

I'm sure you said this just to see my bad side, but I won't take the bait. :p

Aladuf 05-26-2008 10:58 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
I've really gotta watch the Toy Story movies again, it's been way to long.

Aladuf 05-26-2008 10:58 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 224570)
I'm sure you said this just to see my bad side, but I won't take the bait. :p

:lolz: There's no bait there, just straight up truth. Honestly, I feel 3 is way better.

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:01 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 224568)

seeing that makes me do the same thing as seeing

KillerGremlin 05-26-2008 11:01 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Spiderman 3 sucked ass. They totally shafted the Venom story. And emo spidey...wtf. The only way you could have saved that crapfest is if you got Kirsten Dunce naked.

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:02 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
That would make things worse. Drowned rat.

Aladuf 05-26-2008 11:06 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Spiderman 3 was great for 2 reasons:

1) James Franco

2) James Franco

GameMaster 05-26-2008 11:06 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim (Post 224576)
seeing that makes me do the same thing as seeing

So you swing both ways or you react to Franco the way I react to her? :D

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:07 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
I prefer to think of myself as a revolving door tbqh.

Aladuf 05-26-2008 11:09 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
I don't know what to think of her tits.. they seem almost too big :O

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:10 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
One is also a little bigger than the other.

You won't unsee it.

ps never ever too big

never

Aladuf 05-26-2008 11:10 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Oh that's right! You've shown me the gif before, I thought it looked familiar. Fuck... I can't unsee it :(

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:12 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
the gif, and the HD self-stimulation erotica

Aladuf 05-26-2008 11:42 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
lol that HD video was intense but it fucking broke once it got to the good stuff. :(

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:42 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
no it didn't?

Aladuf 05-26-2008 11:44 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
For me.. idk why but right when she started to *cough* touch herself *cough* the video just stopped playing.. and it definetly wasn't done.

Renwood 05-26-2008 11:50 PM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
no

no it wasn't

ohhhhh

BreakABone 05-27-2008 06:36 AM

Re: The Problem With Sequels
 
Just for the record, other than Spiderman 3 being the worst of the trilogy.

The thread wasn't about sequels you feel are better than the original.

Was more along the sequels that tend to fail or don't live up to the original. In my eyes atleast, they fall into one of those two camps I laid out in the original post.


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