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GameMaster 05-15-2008 01:47 AM

BREAKING: Guitar Hero 4 Drums Revealed
 
I like the addition of the two cymbals.





http://kotaku.com/390363/guitar-hero-4-drums-revealed

Jonbo298 05-15-2008 02:02 AM

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meh

Aladuf 05-15-2008 03:02 AM

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Rock Band is t3h doomed! D:

Thats good for GH4 and all but lets not kid ourselves, the main GH game this year will be GH: Aerosmith. I can't wait for that.

Dyne 05-15-2008 03:42 AM

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Hahaha! Wow.

I GUESS I'm not surprised but I still kinda am! :confused:

birdman 05-15-2008 08:53 AM

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Rawk Band sent to die.

BreakABone 05-15-2008 08:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 222976)
Rawk Band sent to die.



Rawk never gonna die.

Also why is it not possible for Rock Band and Guitar Hero to co-exist? :confused:

birdman 05-15-2008 09:04 AM

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Oh they most likely will. It's gonna be a constant one-upping by both sides to have the better music party game, and of course the competition will be in our favor. I'm just a bit surprised that GH went the exact path of Rock Band.

BreakABone 05-15-2008 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 222979)
Oh they most likely will. It's gonna be a constant one-upping by both sides to have the better music party game, and of course the competition will be in our favor. I'm just a bit surprised that GH went the exact path of Rock Band.

I'm not really.
I mean there are only so many guitar songs they could do.
And really drums are a huge part of a band too.

Surprised no vocals or was that information later added?

birdman 05-15-2008 09:10 AM

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Yeah, they're adding vocals too. It's gonna be sketchy though, because Harmonix used their Karaoke Revolution stuff to make the vocal part of Rock Band, and last I checked Neversoft's never made a singing game.

Aladuf 05-15-2008 11:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 222978)
Rawk never gonna die.

Also why is it not possible for Rock Band and Guitar Hero to co-exist? :confused:

Actually I wish one of them would die away soon, this reminds me fully of the Blu-Ray/HD-DVD war, we have to formats that are pretty much the exact same now and we're going to have to have two entire set ups to play each.

Like for people who have Rock band already, if they want the "full experience" of GH4 now they're gonna have to go buy a whole other set of drums and a mic. I know I'm gonna go to bird's house one day and see that he has: 2 Guitar Hero guitars, 1 GH drum kit, 1 GH mic, 2 Rock Band Guitars, 1 RB drum kit, and 1 RB mic. SO FUCKING UNNECESSARY.

So yeah, competition or not I hope one gets axed soon because this little pissing contest between Activision and Harmonix is lame as shit.

gekko 05-15-2008 12:19 PM

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One get axed soon? Rock Band has sold great, and Guitar Hero III can't be stopped. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but GHIII is the only 3rd party Wii game to ever crack the top 5 of sales charts. In other words, it's the most successful 3rd party Wii game made, and that doesn't include the other 75 systems spanning across 2 galaxies and 17 planets that it sold on.

Aladuf 05-15-2008 12:33 PM

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Yeah I'm not denying anything you're saying, I know the games are selling great. Last I remember hearing Rock Band has sold over a million and GH3 was somewhere over 5 million. But that aside, like I said, I hate the constant pissing contest between both companies they're like a couple of fucking 5 year olds bitching at each other.

Also, I think if GH4 has quality hardware then that'll be a big hit on Rock Band too. These things were coming broken out of the box, how is that excusable for a $170 game? birdman over here can't deny that either, 2 out of 3 instruments of his broke (the only one that didn't break was the mic :O) and the guitar broke in a very short amount of time iirc.

jeepnut 05-15-2008 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aladuf (Post 223002)
Yeah I'm not denying anything you're saying, I know the games are selling great. Last I remember hearing Rock Band has sold over a million and GH3 was somewhere over 5 million. But that aside, like I said, I hate the constant pissing contest between both companies they're like a couple of fucking 5 year olds bitching at each other.

Also, I think if GH4 has quality hardware then that'll be a big hit on Rock Band too. These things were coming broken out of the box, how is that excusable for a $170 game? birdman over here can't deny that either, 2 out of 3 instruments of his broke (the only one that didn't break was the mic :O) and the guitar broke in a very short amount of time iirc.

Yeah both my drums and guitar broke, but they replaced them quickly and free of charge even when I had had the game for 5 months and the damage to the drums was most likely my fault (or one of my roommates). Even though the hardware was a bit crappy initially, I can't really complain with customer service like that.

Also, am I the only one that could care less about Guitar Hero: Aerosmith? I never have really liked that band nor do I care to buy a game full of songs by them and bands they like.

Typhoid 05-15-2008 02:06 PM

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Maybe you guys are being too rough with them?
I don't have any problems with my drums or guitar.
They are just pieces of plastic for a video game, after all.

Aladuf 05-15-2008 02:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut (Post 223010)

Also, am I the only one that could care less about Guitar Hero: Aerosmith? I never have really liked that band nor do I care to buy a game full of songs by them and bands they like.

No, you are most definetly in the majority of people who don't care about GH: Aerosmith. I can't wait for it to come out because I love Aerosmith to death.

Dyne 05-15-2008 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gekko (Post 222999)
One get axed soon? Rock Band has sold great, and Guitar Hero III can't be stopped. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but GHIII is the only 3rd party Wii game to ever crack the top 5 of sales charts. In other words, it's the most successful 3rd party Wii game made, and that doesn't include the other 75 systems spanning across 2 galaxies and 17 planets that it sold on.

Yeah, but Rock Band Wii comes out June 12th. It may be summer, but I know it's going to sell like hotcakes. I know 4 people offhand who are buying it right away.

Perfect Stu 05-15-2008 06:03 PM

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I'm Rock Band loyal at this point...dont have the money or space for another set of instruments.

Renwood 05-15-2008 07:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 222979)
It's gonna be a constant one-upping by both sides to have the better music party game, and of course the competition will be in our favor.

Because storing one set of toy instruments wasn't enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 222980)
last I checked Neversoft's never made a singing game.

Last I checked Neversoft never made a guitar game before Guitar Hero III. Seems like they figured it out. :P

birdman 05-16-2008 01:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renwood (Post 223072)
Last I checked Neversoft never made a guitar game before Guitar Hero III. Seems like they figured it out. :P

Everybody gets lucky once. :P

Aladuf 05-16-2008 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by birdman (Post 223125)
Everybody gets lucky once. :P

2 out of the 3 of us don't care enough to argue about fucking music games, 1 of us cares to much :P

birdman 05-16-2008 01:57 PM

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Hey hey! watch your fucking language. Besides, the 3 of us aren't a microcosm of the entire board.

:P

gekko 05-17-2008 02:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 222981)
last I checked Neversoft's never made a singing game.

Wow, it's hard to believe how many issues there are with that single statement. Let's briefly explore some of them...

1) Neversoft never made a skateboarding game before Tony Hawk. Nintendo never made a 3D game before Super Mario 64. Capcom didn't make a horror game before Resident Evil. Since when was this such a scary thought? Pong was created by someone who doesn't have any interest in gaming, in fact he created the smart bomb, and Breakout was created by Steve Jobs, famous, but not or game design.

2) You're making the assumption that the staff of companies making music games are filled with musicians. Musicians are not game designers, and despite being an expert in their field, they are not experts in games. You hire people on as advisors when needed, but in general when making games much of the specialized knowledge isn't needed. The beauty of games is that they are not real-life, so we simply bend the rules. You think Nintendo hired a physicist to calculate how a fat plumber travel through the air? No, they tweak numbers until it feels fun. I'm sure Infinity Ward had some military advisors to make COD4, but much of their knowledge is a complete waste. Why? The numbers of the actual guns don't match the numbers given to the guns in the game to make it balanced, and much of the details of these weapons are omitted simply because it's a game. Same thing with music. The vast majority of the staff can make any game you can imagine. Without the staff of producers, designers, programmers, artists, and testers, you're not going to get a game.

3) Employees come and go fast in the game industry. The team that developed your favorite game 5 years ago, may not even resemble the team that is making the game now, even though they are at the same company. Don't believe me? Ok, let's look at a big game series of past years... Halo

Lead Designer: John Howard - Not a part of Halo 2 or 3
Producer: Rock Ryan - Not a part of Halo 2 or 3
Lead Producer: Hamilton Chu - Left after Halo 2
Lead Programmer: Michael Evans - Left after Halo 2

Just picked a few of the upper level people. None made it on the Halo 3 team, and only half were even around for Halo 2. That's the nature of the industry.

Aladuf 05-17-2008 02:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 223166)
Hey hey! watch your fucking language. Besides, the 3 of us aren't a microcosm of the entire board.

Sure we don't represent the opinions of these boards by any means (especially me) but apparently me and the other one are onto something here because from the looks of the post above me, you got pwnd.

Renwood 05-17-2008 08:53 AM

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Hey hey, you you

Don't speak for me. I care enough to argue about anything.

Renwood 05-18-2008 06:56 PM

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someone gonna bump this in minute

birdman 05-18-2008 07:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gekko
Wow, it's hard to believe how many issues there are with that single statement. Let's briefly explore some of them...

1) Neversoft never made a skateboarding game before Tony Hawk. Nintendo never made a 3D game before Super Mario 64. Capcom didn't make a horror game before Resident Evil. Since when was this such a scary thought? Pong was created by someone who doesn't have any interest in gaming, in fact he created the smart bomb, and Breakout was created by Steve Jobs, famous, but not or game design.

I say that not as I'm scared of what Neversoft cooks up, just that I reserve my judgment of the vocal system until the game is given a proper play through.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gekko

2) You're making the assumption that the staff of companies making music games are filled with musicians. Musicians are not game designers, and despite being an expert in their field, they are not experts in games. You hire people on as advisors when needed, but in general when making games much of the specialized knowledge isn't needed. The beauty of games is that they are not real-life, so we simply bend the rules. You think Nintendo hired a physicist to calculate how a fat plumber travel through the air? No, they tweak numbers until it feels fun. I'm sure Infinity Ward had some military advisors to make COD4, but much of their knowledge is a complete waste. Why? The numbers of the actual guns don't match the numbers given to the guns in the game to make it balanced, and much of the details of these weapons are omitted simply because it's a game. Same thing with music. The vast majority of the staff can make any game you can imagine. Without the staff of producers, designers, programmers, artists, and testers, you're not going to get a game.

And now you make the assumption that I don't think Neversoft CAN make a decent singing part to Guitar Hero. I believe they are capable of doing such, after I've seen how well they took a franchise they didn't start and made a fairly good sequel.


All in all, my statement was made with skepticism because of Neversoft's lack of singing games, and I do believe I have a right to think in such a way. I have no problem with them proving me wrong. It's really amazing the issues you have with my skepticism. I really have no clue why you'd make such a long drawn out response to it. What I said was never meant to be taken as "Oh, Neversoft doesn't have a fucking chance becuz dey neva maed a singing gaem liek Harmonix!!!!!!11111oneoneone"

Renwood 05-18-2008 07:09 PM

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called it

Aladuf 05-18-2008 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Renwood (Post 223386)
called it

:lolz: That was awesome.

BreakABone 05-21-2008 10:24 AM

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34271.html

birdman 05-21-2008 01:59 PM

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They could've been nice and labeled it a teaser trailer.


*yawns*

Renwood 05-21-2008 03:45 PM

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yeah the trailers for rock band that showed off gamplay were pretty ace

Aladuf 05-21-2008 03:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman (Post 223580)
They could've been nice and labeled it a teaser trailer.


*yawns*

2 Things:

1) If the name said "Rock Band" instead of "Guitar Hero" in that video you would have a raging boner right now.

2) Your attempts at not appearing really interested in GH4 are so precious. :)

Renwood 05-21-2008 03:53 PM

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great now it looks like a gang bang. I am not in occlusion with this man

my views and opinons are expressly my own and possibly those of New Line Cinemas

Aladuf 05-21-2008 03:57 PM

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lol I didn't even see you responded to him... I saw his fake apathy and just hit "Reply" immediately.

Sorry, I wouldn't want to appear to be associated with you by any means ;)

Renwood 05-21-2008 03:57 PM

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i am an individual GD

Aladuf 05-21-2008 03:59 PM

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As am I, fu

Renwood 05-21-2008 04:01 PM

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i cant hear you when youre suckling the corporate teet sorry

Aladuf 05-21-2008 04:05 PM

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Am I suckling a teet? What teet is that? Is it Jet Brody's teet? How many times can I say teet within this post? So far I've counted 4 teets. That is 2 teets per person. Unless 1 person has an odd number of teets, in which case both people would have to have an odd number of teets. Have you ever seen such a thing? An odd number of teets on a person that is? It actually happened in that movie "Good Luck Chuck". The breast doctor has a lady-friend who had 3 teets. And I thought to myself "Wow, that woman has 3 teets, who's ever seen such madness?" And then I went on with my life after that.

BreakABone 05-21-2008 04:14 PM

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I'm sure there are better avenues to have these mini-AIM convoys...

O AIM maybe...

Aladuf 05-21-2008 04:19 PM

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Are you anti-promoting activity on these forums?


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