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I never watch this show but I am familiar with the humor he and Stewart employ. However, when I happened upon this clip, I couldn't believe how genuinely rude Colbert treats this author (David Levy, author of Love and Sex with Robots). Maybe some of his guests are able to just laugh it off. But this guy just looks offended. That doesn't stop Colbert though. He just keeps insulting the guy and being a grade-A douchebag.

There's a difference between poking fun and just being downright rude. And obviously Colbert has lost sense of the line that differentiates the two.

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You say it, but it's obvious that you never watch the show. Yes, Colbert is rude. He's also a racist, sexist, generally conservative and Republican, an egotist and an egoist. He's lots of bad things. But it's all an act, it's the character he's portraying, and you're obviously not as familiar with him as you think. Have you seen his intro to interviews? You know usually the guest comes on stage to the applause of the audience? Not Colbert. He's the one that jogs over to the guest to the applause of the audience. He's a dick. On purpose.

Plus that's easily not one of the rudest interviews he's had.

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I'm mre curious if you aren't a fan of the show.
How did you happen upon the clip?
Were you looking for information on human/robot love?

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Quite honestly, I've lost all respect for Colbert and Stewart. They are intellectual cowards. By couching their opinions and bias in "comedy" (its not even funny anymore, and I think Lewis Black is hilarious), they get a free ride to say whatever they please and never have to be held accountable for anything they say or conveniently omit from the discussion. The problem is, much of what they say is taken as fact by the left leaning audience they pander to, and little of it is honest.

I still remember when Stewart went on Crossfire and utterly insulted and ridiculed the show for not being good for discourse. I couldn't help but think:

"Crossfire is a live show where two sides get a point of view, while The Daily Show promotes essentially a single world view, and heavily edits all of their inteviews with dissenting opinions until they get a result that is to their liking."

So in Stewart's opinion, any show that doesn't just repeat a opinion he is confortable with is bad for public discourse? How very liberal of him?

Yes, Colbert is rude, but then again he calls it comedy and not intellectually dishonest insults, so its okey dokey. :uhh:

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I remember when The Daily Show wasn't just about politics politics politics...
But come on... Intellectually dishonest cowards?

Especially with Colbert... I mean, he's someone who's frequently made a mockery of religion (This Week in God on The Daily Show, and numerous times in his attempt to portray his Right Wing character on Colbert Report), but is in fact a devout Catholic himself... Apparently even a Sunday school teacher at some point in time (though you can't always believe everything the internets tells you)...

And while I'm not saying he and Stewart are closet Republicans, and there's no denying that Jon Stewart leans to the left, I think that sometimes it's the same way with their political humor... Especially when you consider that they're not the only one's writing the material for the show...

But hey, for a number of years back when The Daily Show really hit it's peak, The Republicans were the ones in power... House, Senate and President... Them focusing most of their political jokes on the guys up top wasn't much different than how you're pinning the "intellectually dishonest coward" remarks squarely on the two hosts...

Though these are the opinions of someone who is not offended by anything... Except maybe people getting seriously offended by comedy (or "comedy")...

Quick on topic note: The Colbert interviews in which guests become frustrated with his act are cringe-worthy for numerous reasons..

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The Daily Show and the Colbert Report are entertainment.
Don't go into it with the idea you're going to get facts and news - it's all supposed to be entertaining, in a tounge-in-cheek fashion, or sometimes a smack-in-the-face blatent fashion.

They even say they aren't news shows. Stewert often refers to it as a "fake news" show. And right there, that should easily tip you off that it's not intending to give people real news. Because it's not real news. It's a comedic spin on current events.

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I agree with you. They are just awful. In fact, they're SO much worse than the entirely right-wing slanted politics of CNN and Fox News.

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And right there is what I believe is the dishonesty. As long as both shows adamantly brand themselves as "entertainment", they can make whatever statements they like with whatever bias they like without ever having to be responsible for their content. Yet, Stewart and his ilk want to be taken seriously when they see fit. If your looking for specifics as to why I feel so strongly about this, listen to the jokes on the next Daily Show. Each joke uses "real news" as the set-up, followed by the punchline. Often times, the writers misstate, omit info or openly lie in the "real news" set-up. Also, their interviews with political figures are hilariously bad. Democrat or left leaning guests are essentially fawned over, while Stewart almost verbally attacks those on the right with disingenuous questions, and then to top it off his interviews with right wing guests are almost ALWAYS heavily edited, especially the one with Jonah Goldberg just recently.

Michael Moore has played at this game for years. "Hey, its just comedy, but I'm deadly serious." Whenever they are taken to task, its just comedy. But they are to be taken as serious intellectuals and opinion makers as well.

The worst part is that Sterwart's show isn't even funny. He tells more "applause jokes", also called pandering, than "funny jokes". Like Bill Maher, he'd rather get applause than laughs, being the lord of the reighteous satire. There is a dropping, palpable arrogance to those like Colbert, Stewart and Maher. I call it megalomaniacal comedy.

Another liberal comedian, Lewis Black, manages to actually be funny, and he's funny even moreso because of his intellectual honesty and lack of arrogance. Me? I'd rather laugh, so I'll watch Black.

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Wait a second... did you just say the right wing slant of CNN? Are you on medication or something? Maybe you should take a nap, this topic seems to have rattled your senses...

And at least Fox openly invites opposing opinions on most shows, and live no less, and take ownership of their opinions unlike Colbert or Stewart.

My issue isn't with the slant, its with the cowardice and intellectual dishonesty.

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I don't know, maybe I don't see it as big of a deal as you because Canada's had shows like that for numerous years before the U.S ever did, with The Royal Canadian Air Farce and This Hour has 22 Minutes.

They do the same basic things as the other shows do, except with more of a SNL-feel to it.

The difference between Air Farce/22 Minutes and Colbert/Daily Show is that the Daily show and Colbert Report set themselves up to look like an actual news station. Much like Fox.

I personally think CNN news can get away with "entertainment" too. I actually laughed while watching it last week. I felt bad because of the subject, but the stance on it, I mean.

But just don't take it as news, and you're fine. Because it's not news. If you look to the Daily Show or Colbert Report for news, you might as well go to the McDonald's value meal for healthy living.

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You can believe whatever you want to believe and I doubt anyone would change your mind.

But if I'm not mistaken the Jonah Goldberg interview was about 20 mins when they taped. For a show that is at best 22 minutes long what the hell did you expect him to do?

He even made a note of it before they aired the segment that it was heavily editted for time.

But you will just say it was editted in their favor anyhow.

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"More Americans get their news from The Daily Show than probably should."

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I Cant stand people like Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace, and Bill O'Riely. So when i see somebody like Colbert is imitating them and going over the top and poking fun at all these people I just love it.

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Breakabone - So knowing there would only be a few minutes to fit in an interview, the Daily Show would have an interview go for 20? I never said Stewart wasn't smart, just dishonest. The interview was planned to go long, to be edited "for length" and then broadcast. Once again, at least the real news channels do it live so there is no question. I'd love to see the full length interview be made available.

Fox6 - You have provided an excellent example of what I'm writing about. They pander to you. I think Colbert is funnier than Sewart, though, especially with the whole Bear thing. His satire is more pointed at the medium of political punditry than specifically biased against right wing opinion, but his interviews are just as pathetically bad and dishonest as Stewart's. For the record, I hate Nancy Grace and Bill O'Reilly probably more than you do (don't forget Anne Coulter and Sean Hannity), because they m ake my party look bad (I am now offically a Republican because I wanted to vote in this year's primary). I love Glenn Beck, even with his sometimes over the top flaws, just for his excellent bullshit detector when it comes to lies from both sides of the political isle.

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Watch as Colbert almost drops to his knees and blows John Kerry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfiL2hpnmZ0

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I guess I'm not truly familiar with the stylings of Colbert's show.

It just seems to me that if you're guest isn't laughing let alone smiling at your jokes, you should either stop making them or at least make them less crude.

Oh well, let sleeping dogs lie, right?

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Hey Strangler. There's something I've wanted to say to you for a long time.

Now, before I do, let me preface it by saying that this has nothing to do with your opinions per se. But just over the years, you have gradually weathered me to a point annoyed frustration. I dig what you're out there doing. It must be tough being the one guy on the boards that nobody generally sides with in arguments. And you have even helped put Typhoid in perspective for me. I have now realized that he exists entirely as an antithesis to you. Arguing as annoyingly as possible but on whatever side that you're not on. But why does nobody side with you I wonder?

Is it because there's some sort of SPOOOOKY liberal media out there brainwashing us all and you are the only real beacon of truth? You have been many things over the years. You've been a true Bush supporter through and through even through the times that we all noticed him driving your country into the ground and getting you all involved in illegal wars. You have been there as a watch dog to attack the sinister leftist television and movie personalities. And you have also always been there to argue in thousands of paragraphs against any and all who have opinions that differ from yours.

We've had an interesting relationship. And I've got to know you somewhat well over the years.

And it's with all this in mind that I want to tell you to go eat a dick.

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Thank you for putting that into perspective for me. Such an enlightened and well thought out argument. You are an excellent example for those logic machines that exist out there on the left...

1) This board is NOT in any shape a microcosm of the opinions fo the world we live in. That said, there are more than a few past and present members who have agree with my views on these boards, they don't speak out on politics. This is a reflection of most people who have conmservative views... they behave conservatively, not necessarily speaking about it. Ever wonder why there are so few conservative protests yet many conservatives in the world?

2) You and others here keep on saying I'm a true Bush supporter through and through, statements which completely contradict most Bush related posts I've made. I am aupporter of out role in the Middle East right now, and I even criticized his methods there as well. I think Bush is a travesty domestically. But then again, that would require you reading my posts and not just confabulating my opinions based on what you would like them to be. You say that you've gotten to know me over the years, but your complete lack of understanding when it comes to anything political I've ever said pretty much illustrates that you know next to nothing about me.

3) I'm sorry if you despise differing opinions so much. I find that to be a trend on the left. My opinions aren't just divergent, they are insulting to you. You are offended that I dare speak out in ways that you don't agree. You DESPISE the discourse, and only answer it with "eat a dick"? I'm sure you thought you were being funny, but you only make yourself look like a fool and taint the values that you have spoken about so many times on this thread. And I'd much rather peak on complex opinions and world views in paragraph form than the two sentence, substanceless soundbytes those who share your opinions seem to prefer. After all, there should be reason behind opinion.

In the end, you are the perfect example of the modern liberal. You think not with your head, but with your heart and when people disagree they are BAD and don't merely have a different opinion. Thank God you can't vote in US elections.

In the end, if the best argument you can make against my posts is "eat a dick", then I have to say I've royally succeeded in this forum. You have been reduced to school yard taunts because your own views cannot sustain the light of a detailed, logical and thought out argument. Rather face these facts, you become insulted that someone dared challenge them. Good for you.

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Man I'm messing around with you.

Go take your paragraphs to someone who cares.

In retrospect I wish I hadn't posted that because for some reason you can take my personal dislike of YOU as a person and use it to fuel your anti-liberal tirade.

Now, I was thinking of getting up and defending myself in a reasoned debate because I am actually capable of reason.

And it may blow your mind but I don't actually disagree with every word you write on these boards. But here's why I'm not going to say anything in defense of myself or to dispute any of the claims that you just made about me: because it's not worth the trouble. I don't really care enough about what you think of me to have to read the hundred paragraph barrage of your semantics and nonsensery.

But for the record: I am not a liberal. I just have ideas that people label as liberal.

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You don't even know who I am, much less be able to make a judgement as to whether or not you like me based solely on my political views. And it is my political views, not just the way I put them. You can't have a honest discussion with me based on facts and ideas, and I won't let ignorant chatter stand without rebuttal, so you decide you don't like me because I challenge you and your world view. How childish, especially considering how you are consistently wrong in telling what I think or even write about on these forums. Its just an excuse for you to ignore opposing points of view and a validation for not thinking critically.

Once again, being a conservative, I must be a bad person in your mind. You are a font of enlightened open mindedness. If it helps at all, I don't care much about you either way. Honestly, your posting on this forum doesn't warrant such a reaction.

Oh, and if you didn't care what I thought, you wouldn't bother responding to my posts. Try again.

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You know me sooooo well.

Listen, I like people despite their political party. I am extremely open minded and just because I choose not to engage in text sparring with you here doesn't make that otherwise.

I told you to eat a dick because you annoy me not through your opinions but because every time I see you arguing I personally feel like you need to be the champion of every cause that suits you on this gaming forum. I have a lot of right wing friends, and I'm cool with them being right wing because that's their thing.

I'm not afraid of people challenging my world view. It's just that after my teen years I got tired of debating on these message boards where I can't make eye contact with the person I'm talking to and I can't gauge their tone of voice and they can't gauge mine.

I told you to eat a dick because I was bored. I told you to eat a dick because it amused me at the time. I told you to eat a dick because it was juvenile and it would get a rise out of you. I told you to eat a dick because you annoy me not through your opinion but your seemnig inflated sense of self worth that I know as egotism.

Was I being retarded? Yes. Does that make me an irrational human being? Not necessarily.

Why not stop making everything bigger than it really is?



PS. Eat a butt.

PPS. Say whatever you want now, I'm not responding again. I already fell into the trap.

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Dyflon, I make things as big as you let them get. Never forget that.

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Strangler, you always pass the blame, and you usually are the first to personally attack someone.

You keep taking it bigger and bigger as long as the person talks back, yes. But you initiate it. You poke someone in the eye, then scream bloody murder that he attacked you.


Dylan, you should know by now that he will take whatever you say literally, and not as a joke.

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I have discussions, passionate as they may be. I usually also have reasonable arguments, and expect them in return. If you are offended by reasonable arguments, thats not my problem, its yours.

As for not taking things as a joke... there was no joke. I was insulted by someone (who openly admits to not liking me) in response to an argument about whether or not The Daily Show and Colbert Report were intellectually dishonest. Of all the things for someone to hurls childish insults over, that is pretty much the last one I would have guessed.

But hey, I can be as hilarious as anyone else. Let me give it a try...

"You are a load that should have been left on your mother's C-section scar."

or maybe

"Fuck you, asshole"

Hilarious. Can everyone like me now? :unsure:

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Stranlger, all your posts are made with such egotism and rhetoric and it gives off the vibe that you have some sort of superiority complex over people that disagree with you. It seems that if you can in someway defeat every point that somebody has made against you, and then add a childish comment at the end, then you "win."

Case in point, from the "Last movies you saw" thread.

I mean yeah, he was off, infact way off. You made your point, and it was bang on. That last sentence just seems like such a "dick" move.

Secondly you sound as if your "modern Liberal" as you put it is trying to undermind your rights and has some sort of political and unrespecting vendetta against the right. Thats just BS. Its politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! of course either side is going to jump all over the other if they see a chance. You honestly dont think that if the roles were reversed, the conservatives would be cranking out whatever they felt would tarnish the others reputation?


I understand if something directed towards you gets you caught in the moment, but dude.......................... yeah................




PS. EAT A DICK :p

PPS. dear god now i have encouraged the wrath of the all mighty. Now he will think all of us Conservative Liberals are after the right wings' political nut sack.

PPPs. Im aware that im being a jerk to make my point.

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That's the thing.
First, I'm not offended, nor did I say I was.

Secondly, you're right. If I am offended, it is my problem. And like you, I shall let you know about it if it offends me in such a way I feel compelled to. Much like you always do.

The thing is, you segregate yourself from everyone else. you say one thing (such as "if it offends you, it's your problem, not mine" but then in the same situation when the tables are turned, you make a lengthy post about it, and call it a "reasonable argument" and in so many words try and belittle whoever you're talking to with some sort of "witty" (not witty) comment at the very end that doesn't make any sort of connotation towards your age at all.


You have three people telling you the exact same thing.

I hilariously await your absolutely hilarious reply as to why we're all wrong.

And take note, I haven't said anything offensive towards you. I never called you a name, or made any judgement on character in a defaming way.

But if I offended you, that's your problem - not mine.


PS. See what I did there? I ended my post like you. This is fun. I see why you do it all the time now.;)

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I lol'd

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Typhoid, I apologize, as most of my comments were directed at you, but intended to be a response to Dyflon's insult. I can see how I caused the confusion, though.

And I have three people telling me that I'm wrong??? Stop the presses!!! I completely change my entire way of thing!!! Once again, this forum is not in any shape a microcosm of the real world and to call it a bastion of informed discussion would be an insult to informed discussion.

By the way, it doesn't take three people to change the way I think, it only takes one person who can use EVIDENCE, RESOURCE and REASON to SHOW MW WHY MY BELIEFS ARE INCORRECT. Xantar has done this on numerous occassions, as I'm sure I have done for him as well. Just telling me I'm wrong because you think I am is masturbatory, while informed discussion is enlightening.

And I'm not sure why you think I'd be offended by what you and Dyflon say. I never have been and I've never shown myself to be. I don't take political discussion personally, and if anyone does, they are silly and automatically rule out liking 50% of the populace at least. Thats why I say I don't think of Dyflon eiter in like or dislike, because all we ever talk about is political topics and I never base such things as "like liking" someone based on that.

Two of my best friends are flaming liberals, and we have heated arguments all the time and we remain great friends. Its not a sign that we're jerks, its a sign that we are passionate about our beliefs and have the balls to stand by them and defend them as if we cared and inform ourselves about them as if we cared. An untested opinion is the most worthless thing in the world.

FYI, I broke this up into smaller paragraphs as I hear my long winded, detailed nature is difficult for some people to read. Next time I'll just bullet point everything in easily digestable and meaningnes soundbytes... (that was not intended towards you, Typhoid)

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I didn't say you have three people telling you that you're wrong.
I said you have three people telling you the exact same thing - to do with your "must win" and "it's all a game" mentality.

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What I don't understand is what you three want from Prof. S.

Do you want him to agree with everything you (or someone else) says, to give everyone a virtual handjob all the time?

I can't believe that's what you really want. So if not that, then what? Do you want him to be nicer when he tells you you're wrong? If that's the case, then face it -- you would be upset no matter how he told you you were wrong. Typhoid in particular is told he's wrong practically every day by Prof. S, do you want him to be nicer, is that it? (Now I wonder if it's you, Typhoid that's actually wrong all the time, or if it's just that big meanie Prof. S just always picking on you with logic and reason?)

But seriously, each of you need to ask yourself -- what is it I want from arguing with Prof. S? If you want nothing, then you're wasting your time.

Oh, yeah, and let's everyone eat a dick. Because I know how funny that is.

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I find it slightly amusing that the three discussing or arguing or whatever with him all happen to know each other in real life. No real correlation to anything just amuses me.

I almost feel as if I should join in just for the hell of it but I don't really have anything usefull to add. I also don't really care. This banter always amuses me.


So this post turned out to be of little use....Neat!

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You don't think they talk about Prof. S together when they hang out together, do you?

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what else would they talk about while staring at their Professor S posters?

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So what about that Colbert?

Anyone see the giant check last night.

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Yeah! That ruled. Colbert is awesome. So is John Stewart.

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What a dick move on Colbert's part.

Oh, Dylan when we hang out tomorrow, want to invite Dyne, Foxxy, and Swan over so we can all talk about Gametavern?!

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yo jonads! Rambo after the regular sunday brunch?

and yeah. FREE SPEECH ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!

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What a wacky thread this is. You guys are crazy. I'm in Sunbury, Ohio. How about that?

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How is everything working out for you in Sunbury, my friend?