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Bond 07-11-2007 11:27 AM

Nintendo Press Conference: Stream & Discussion
 


Time Keynote Will Start:

9:00 pt
10:00 mt
11:00 ct
12:00 et

Watch it Live Here:

http://e3.gamespot.com/live.html?om_...vesched;show;1
http://e3.1up.com/
http://www.g4tv.com/e32007/index.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/e32k7.php


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I found a few more streams thanks to penguin. Gamespot was good for the Microsoft press conference, so I'm going to use them again.

Crash 07-11-2007 11:46 AM

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meeting at 11:00... i hate my life.

Angrist 07-11-2007 12:17 PM

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Watching now. Reggie can be such a boring speaker.

Angrist 07-11-2007 12:24 PM

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Wii Zapper announced, should be great with Umbrella Chronicles and Ghost Squad.

Bond 07-11-2007 12:30 PM

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I actually like Reggie as a presenter. He does a good job.

But these fan-made videos need to stop.

Dyne 07-11-2007 12:33 PM

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Nice. It needs more megaton though!

Dyne 07-11-2007 12:40 PM

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Mario Kart Wii! Oh ****!

Angrist 07-11-2007 12:43 PM

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Was he expecting an applause for that Wii steering wheel? We've had it since launch.

And I knéw they'd have multiple control options for Mario Kart.

Bond 07-11-2007 12:50 PM

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Is that a very small steering wheel or is it just me?

Null 07-11-2007 12:51 PM

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im shocked they'd say something as stupid as mario kart noobs would be able to hang bumper to bumper with the vets.

that translates into our game has no skill growth.

i really hope thats not the case. just like on mk ds online.. i want to be able to crush some of these noobs that step online. i lap people online in mk ds. its thier job to practice and get better, not the game to make it entirely too easy.



hopefully what he really meant was just the steering wheel makes it easier for people whove never played to pick it up and get into it.

Angrist 07-11-2007 12:52 PM

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I think it's just meant to get your grandmother to play, while you use nunchuck analog stick control.
Edit: like Null says, that comment was just stupid. You don't want some noob beating you, but I don't think that will be the case. Actually I played MK: DD on the Cube today with a friend and we were talking about how the handicap was cool because it only effected weapon quality. :)

Super Mario Galaxy at the moment.

Bond 07-11-2007 12:59 PM

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If I see one more fan/media video collage I am going to kill someone.

Angrist 07-11-2007 01:01 PM

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NO WAY.

Wii Fit introduces a whole new piece of hardware used for fitness.
The Wii Balance Board: a cross between a weighing scale and a DDR mat.

Bond 07-11-2007 01:08 PM

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So this Wii Fit demo isn't exactly working properly.

Angrist 07-11-2007 01:18 PM

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Don't kill me Bond!

Anyway, the Balance Board surprised me and Wii Fit looks great. As long as it's a fun game in itself, because I don't think many people will be buying it to just lose weight. They should, but they might not.

The Balance Board is just asking for a snowboard game.

Bond 07-11-2007 01:20 PM

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I won't. :)

So, that was a solid presentation.

Jason1 07-11-2007 01:27 PM

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where can I find a video of the presentation now?

Bond 07-11-2007 01:41 PM

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A delayed stream should be coming to Gamespot eventually.

I'll look around for places to download the conferences in higher resolutions after Sony's.

Dyne 07-11-2007 01:43 PM

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I don't like this new E3.

Angrist 07-11-2007 01:49 PM

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Wii Balance Board:



Xantar says:
it can tell when you're swinging your arms even though you're just standing on it?
Stephan says:
yep
with good programming, it can probably measure how high you're kicking

BreakABone 07-11-2007 02:05 PM

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You know I was watching the conference.

And the only thing I could thing of...

Wouldn't it have been cool if Nintendo made a montage about all the media coverage they were getting? It would be awesome and show people that they are actually in the mainstream....

If only Nintendo thought of that....

DarkMaster 07-11-2007 02:14 PM

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Wow, that was...not at all exciting. :/

Reminded me of that Sony conference a few years ago where all they did was talk about how awesome they were.

Bond 07-11-2007 02:17 PM

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If they would have taken out those damn fan/media montages it would have been so much better.

Jason1 07-11-2007 02:18 PM

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well while im waiting for a downloadable version to show up somewhere, didnt they show any super mario galaxy?

Angrist 07-11-2007 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMaster (Post 210336)
Wow, that was...not at all exciting. :/

Reminded me of that Sony conference a few years ago where all they did was talk about how awesome they were.

What are you talking about? Did you only see the first 15 minutes?

And Jason, they showed a reel with 4 lucky people (gamers and non-gamers) playing it, it looked fun. Nothing detailed.

Woaaaaaaaaah look what a poster on IGN just realised:
"anyone that says this will not sell well is just in denial--this i a great idea if they can give you a devie that reads body stance and position and map it to controls imagine the gaes you could make--an fps that reads motion intent--for lower and upper body--awesome"

You know how the segway works, right? You tilt forward and you move forward. That is how this balance board can work in games. Excellent.

DarkMaster 07-11-2007 02:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 210341)
What are you talking about? Did you only see the first 15 minutes?

What the hell was exciting? Seeing Metroid Prime and Mario Galaxy again? The Wii Zapper? The conference was all video montages and "man we're awesome, everyone is playing Wii".


and here's Mario Galaxy

http://gametrailers.com/player/21546.html

Null 07-11-2007 02:35 PM

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it was a snooze. but i still dont know what people expect when watching these... they're PRESS conferences, not fan conferences.

they're all boring! (altho this one was more boring then most)

Bond 07-11-2007 03:19 PM

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Jason, stream is available on Gamespot now.

gekko 07-11-2007 03:56 PM

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I HATE E3. They need to downsize this big time. Websites are still crashing left and right, my site is down, way too much media is all released in a mass. It's still too much to handle, just not as many people in the audience.

BreakABone 07-12-2007 12:54 AM

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Even with.. probably the least interesting of the Press Conferences...

Nintendo gets to add more Media loving quotes to their conference next year.. Maybe they won't even present and just have one extended montage...

Quote:

Sony Draws Yawns
Rachel Rosmarin, 07.11.07, 7:49 PM ET

LOS ANGELES - If the best Sony has to offer is a Darth Vader-branded PlayStation Portable, it may be in trouble.

Having already announced its big news July 9 — a $100 price drop on the PlayStation 3 — Sony (nyse: SNE - news - people )'s event at the E3 video game convention Wednesday didn't leave room for many surprises.

However, Sony made a point of picking a hardware fight with Nintendo (other-otc: NTDOY - news - people ) on the portable front. Sony redesigned its PlayStation Portable into a slimmer shape, offered two new colors (one silver, and one etched with Star Wars' Darth Vader) and gave it the ability to export video to high-definition televisions, all to better compete with Nintendo's DS. Nintendo sells about 423,000 portable devices per month, while Sony sells only 221,000, according to NPD.

Sony executives made it clear that they know they need to do more than lower prices to woo consumers back to its flagging video game brand. Tepid audience response at Wednesday's event suggests the company hasn't yet done enough.

“Our accomplishments bring no guarantees for the future,” said Sony Computer Entertainment America CEO Jack Tretton. “We want to earn each and every one of our customers.” While Monday's price cut is already reaping rewards — Tretton said sales of the just-reduced PS3 have already doubled at the company's top five retailers — it won't juice sales enough to give the company the “installed base” that it wants.

Sony tried to impress its bread and butter customers — hard-core gamers — with a slew of exclusive violent action games from third-party publishers and Sony's in-house studios. Footage of gruesome knife battles in Konami's Metal Gear Solid 4 drew cheers, but it might be too little too late: the game will be released later than expected in early 2008.

The company can't promise PS3 owners exclusive access to Grand Theft Auto 4 from Take-Two Interactive (nasdaq: TTWO - news - people ) — it will appear on Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people )'s Xbox 360 as well — so Sony's taking a stab at creating a game called Infamous, which features a similar style of play known as the “emergent gaming sandbox.”

Price cuts and new colors on hardware will only go so far to help Sony catch up to Nintendo, which is moving to take an even bigger lead. Earlier on Wednesday at Nintendo's E3 event, the company attempted to prove that it could expand upon its successful strategy of appealing to nontraditional gamers, while at the same time encroaching on Sony's hard-core gamer demographic.

Nintendo aims to get traditional gamers interested in the Wii with a new gun-shaped controller and a few “first-person shooter” games. For everyone else, Nintendo intends to capitalize on the Wii's motion-sensing features by selling a new suite of health-conscious games called Wii Fit. It requires the purchase of a floor-pad controller that looks a lot like a bathroom scale.
-Forbes

Quote:

Game On
Nintendo Is Star of E3 Show as Rivals Scramble to Catch Up

By Mike Musgrove
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 12, 2007; Page D01

SANTA MONICA, Calif., July 11 -- For many analysts and fans, Nintendo was something of an afterthought at the video game industry's annual E3 trade show in recent years.

But after a blockbuster launch of its Wii console and its ongoing dominance in the portable game market with its mobile DS handheld game console, the company that brought the world Mario and Zelda is now the company that others are trying to catch.

The annual Electronic Entertainment Expo, commonly known as E3, takes place this week in Santa Monica, Calif. The summit, which in the past has had tens-of-thousands of participants, was scaled back this year and is an opportunity for game makers and industry leaders to announce their latest technology and products.

Nintendo's competitors, meanwhile, are playing an expensive round of brinksmanship with each other to win back some of the attention. This week Sony cut the price on its PlayStation 3 console by $100. Microsoft recently announced an expanded warranty program for the Xbox 360 console, which could cost the company more than $1 billion.

Neither Microsoft nor Sony is making money in the game industry, since both are selling their consoles at below cost in their attempt to boost interest. Nintendo, meanwhile, which introduced the $249 Wii six months ago, can barely keep up with demand for the profitable product.

Microsoft and Sony even scaled back their annual parties at the E3 show. In years past, Microsoft held events at such glamorous Los Angeles venues as the Orpheum Theater, the Shrine Auditorium and Grauman's Chinese Theater. This year, its event was at a Santa Monica high school. Sony, which previously held events that featured such concert acts as Macy Gray and Beck, settled for a low-key sushi shindig this year.

Nintendo says it is not paying a lot of attention to Sony or Microsoft.

Reggie Fils-Aime, president of Nintendo of America, said the bigger question was how to get the non-gamers of the world interested in Nintendo systems.

"There are 24 hours in every day, and only a small time is available for leisure," he said at a news conference Wednesday. "We intend to steal more of that time for video games."

Fils-Aime, as expected, showed off some more Mario and Zelda game titles, the franchises for which Nintendo is most famous. His focus, however, was on how Nintendo products have won fans among senior citizens and women at levels well above the norm in the young-male-dominated industry.

For years, as the video game industry battled for dominance in the living room, the best graphics typically beat the competition. The popularity of the Wii's motion-detecting controllers has changed that notion, popularizing the life-like simulation of games, not their high-end computing aspect.

As a result, game companies are now trying to think of new ways to get players feeling like they are inside the game, designing realistic add-ons.

The Wii balance board, for example, lets players lean one way or another to control their game characters. The board is to be part of Wii Fit, the fitness program that Nintendo has in the works, illustrating that the "Wii workout" craze among those trying to get in shape by swinging fake rackets has only just begun.
-Washington post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...071102149.html

Bond 07-12-2007 10:16 AM

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I told you Nintendo had a good press conference penguin!

In all honesty, I thought they had the best press conference of the big three.

Perfect Stu 07-12-2007 12:23 PM

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weird how those publications think almost the opposite of 90% of the gamers out there. virtually everyone is saying Sony had the best conference.

let's face it...for gaming, Nintendo's conference was weak. Wii Fit? seriously guys if exercise mats are the future of gaming, count me out. join a gym or get outside and play some basketball or something.

gekko 07-12-2007 12:34 PM

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Gamers are biased. Not a good judge. 360 owners watch PS3 expecting to be convinced on why they should buy one, a PS3 owners watches it to see what's coming up for their system. Future may look good to someone who owns a PS3, but to a 360 owner, there's nothing worth writing home about. Goes every which way with that.

Regardless, no one can deny the numbers MS put up. Shall we take a look at the highlights?

Since the release of PS3 and Wii...
  • 18 3rd party Xbox 360 games have been in the top 10 sales charts
  • No Wii or PS3 3rd party games have ever made it in the top 10
  • Xbox has nearly double US hardware sales as PS3, and is only 100,000 shy of Wii
  • Xbox 360 has sold more games than PS3 and Wii combined.
  • 2/3 of all 3rd party titles sales are on Xbox 360.
  • Half of all consumer spending is on Xbox 360

Amazing. If I was a publisher, all my games would be going to 360. It's just like PS2 last gen.

Crash 07-12-2007 02:41 PM

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I don't think that is a fair assessment. The 360 is a couple years old, Wii and PS3 haven't even hit their first birthdays.

Although, Since sony is after the same market segment as 360, they are going to need a miracle to pull this one off. In that respect, same as PS2, as in, the headstart paid off big time.

However, with the ps2, the graphics sucked compared to the xbox. This time round, the xbox 360 has as good, and more often BETTER graphics than ps3.

combined with price, and the rest... things aren't looking good for sony.

Someone tell me 3 good reasons to buy a ps3 over an xbox360.

Bond 07-12-2007 04:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu (Post 210454)
weird how those publications think almost the opposite of 90% of the gamers out there. virtually everyone is saying Sony had the best conference.

Well, according to this Gamespot poll...

"The Big Three have spoken. Who came out on top?"
Microsoft - A parade of 2007 titles led by the Master Chief! (39%) 6,057
Nintendo - I've already rearranged my living room for Wii Fit! (20%) 3,102
Sony - Killzone 2, take me home! (39%) 6,098

Seems rather close to me.

Perfect Stu 07-12-2007 05:06 PM

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Well, at least Nintendo is getting smoked.

And you're right gekko...gamers are biased. But at least they're gamers.

TheGame 07-12-2007 05:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 210456)
I don't think that is a fair assessment. The 360 is a couple years old, Wii and PS3 haven't even hit their first birthdays.

Although, Since sony is after the same market segment as 360, they are going to need a miracle to pull this one off. In that respect, same as PS2, as in, the headstart paid off big time.

However, with the ps2, the graphics sucked compared to the xbox. This time round, the xbox 360 has as good, and more often BETTER graphics than ps3.

combined with price, and the rest... things aren't looking good for sony.

Someone tell me 3 good reasons to buy a ps3 over an xbox360.

It isn't really fair at all, MS can gloat about all the numbers they want, but eventually Sony and Nintendo are going to eat at their share of the market. 360's had two holiday seasons, the competitors have had one... things will get more clear when Sony and Nintendo reach their 3rd and 4th holidays.

Xbox 360 is being outsold by Ps2 at the moment. That should speak for itself. There is a HUGE amount of gamers out there who haven't bought anything this gen yet.

Nobody's crazy enough to go out on a limb and say Sony will beat microsoft in the end with how the market is laid out now, but I can tell you now that its far from over.

As for for your 3 reasons.. though it may not apply for everyone:
1) If you're an RPG fan, Ps3 is the safest buy. SE will possibly make RPGs for 360, but they are guaranteed to make them for Ps3.
2) Ps3 is just outright better hardware. More game potential, andmuch better built. No ring of death! Free online anyone? Blu-ray player and wireless internet without paying hundreds of dollars for add ons?
3) Any my personal reason, MGS4 >_> When it was announced that it was exclusive for Ps3 I saw a lot of people across a lot of message boards say "****, I have to buy a Ps3 now". Fun stuff.

Those aren't the only reasons, but it is a worthwhile system...

I assume Next year they'll probably have somewhat similar info but they may take Wii out of consideration as competition (since Wii will pass up 360 sometime this year). Then the year after who knows lol

Perfect Stu 07-12-2007 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 210456)
Someone tell me 3 good reasons to buy a ps3 over an xbox360.

1) Better tech
2) HD movies
3) You'll still be playing it past 2010

I'm trying to stay away from game exclusives because you'd most likely say "I prefer the exclusives on 360 or Wii", but lots of people would disagree. On top of that, Sony hasnt really appealed to a lot of...GameTavern members. They did just fine not selling a PS2 to a bunch of...GameTavern members.

Null 07-12-2007 06:19 PM

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1) Better tech --- newer, im not so sure better though.
2) HD movies ---- this is a very valid and good point.
3) You'll still be playing it past 2010 --- not unless sony picks up thier game and starts doing a lot better.



as a fan of the ps2, i loved my ps2 so much i said many times ps3 is baught on launch, how could they go wrong?

well, they found a few ways to do that.

as of right now i'd prefer a 360, and i never liked the xbox at all, and have always hated microsoft in general.


and one by one, sony keeps letting exclusive games slip right out of thier hands.
so still be playing it past 2010? im not entirely sure of that at this point.

Perfect Stu 07-12-2007 06:30 PM

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It's better tech. Not only has it proven to be FAR more reliable, but I'd be willing to bet we'll be seeing a noticeable gap in exclusive game performance between 360 and PS3 by 2009 and beyond. Sony has proven that they design hardware that is a little ahead of its time and pays dividends all the way throughout the hardware lifecycle (perfect example is PS2. compare God of War 2 to early PS2 titles, and then compare Halo to any of the late XBox titles). On top of that, it's wireless out of the box, hard drive is included and developers can utilize that, and it has compatibility with more formats.


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