School Shooting in Germany, 18 killed
 

Wow. This was a shocker. I was just listening to Q107 when a news report came in saying that there was a school shooting in Germany. 18 people died, 13 teachers, 2 students, a school secretary, a police officer and himself.

Here is the link for the full news : http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe...ing/index.html


Damn. This is a bunch of crap. The kid was expelled from his highschool, so he comes back to shoot the place up! Some people on this Earth are really, really messed up. And isn't this kind of close to the Columbine Shooting date?

(I was gonna post this...)
DAMN I hate these killings!! :mad: Germany is pretty close to me!!! :(

DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!! I saw a few interviews with kids who saw it...

I just heard that this is the highest number of deaths on a school shooting.

The guy was a silent type, he did have some friends... he got kicked out of class very often, until he got banned from school.

He was all dressed in black.
He was a member of a shooting-club, that's how he got the weapons. :mad:

This very day the parliament was discussing the weapon laws of Germany.

Another thing, he didn't shoot the 14 teachers all at once, he had to walk through the whole school, so there is a possibility that there wasn't another guy...

Luckily he didn't shoot that much kids...

Highest number of deaths? How many were killed in Columbine? Cuz that was considered the worst before, right? 15 or something? *shrugs*

Yeah they said he was walking around specifically looking for teachers.. maybe the students tried to stop him... cuz there was a girl they had on the news that said that like she saw the guy kill one of the teachers, look at her, and just walk off... And another said he saw the guy reloading or something in a hallway and then keep walking around... And yeah since most of the dead were teachers...

But that's what happens when someone gets extremely pissed off, has access to weapons, and the brains (as in screwed up brains) to do it...

Yeah I wanted to tell that, but I couldn't find the right words for it. The guy was just standing next to her, and he shot one of her teachers, looked into her eyes and went looking for another... :mad:
[quote But that's what happens when someone gets extremely pissed off, has access to weapons, and the brains (as in screwed up brains) to do it... [/quote]And when he's seen examples on TV.

Yeah... that's a big problem... like the news goes on and on and they have discussion about violence on TV and such, and then go and report school shootings and such, giving anybody who sees them the idea...

What would effect a kid more, seeing a fictional TV show about some kind of murder or big shooting, or hearing about the actual thing on the news?

And what would help kids not copy that? Ripping it off the air completely or *gasp* actually having the parents step in and raise their kids a little better, pay more attention, etc? ;)

But let's not get into that :p

Oh but to comment on that the person looking at the girl and walkign away... reminds me sorta of the columbine thing where one of the gunmen came across some kid and he was just like "I like you, get outta here" or "I don't have a problem with you" or something and left him alone... But I would think in most school shootings the kids don't wanna just shoot random people (unless maybe they're teachers or students trying to stop them)... you would think if they were doing something really big and really random, they'd wait for class to end and everyone to pour out into the hallways...... although I dunno how it is in some schools... I just know in my middle school the bell rang and the hallways like immeadiately got really packed... Hard to make your way down the hallway with all the kids around and their backpacks on the floor near their lockers, etc...

yep...

When I first heard the news, I thought he had entered some kind of teachers room and shot everybody, but he didn't. He just walked through the whole school looking for them. :( :mad:

I was thinking... maybe there was a teacher who always felt sympathy for him and had helped him. I bet he wouldn't have shot him...

This is a real tregedy. Imagine how much worst this would be if he had something against the students as well. If he had the time to go to 14 different classes to kill the teachers, with enough ammunition he could have killed many of the students that were in the classes.

In this day and age, no news is good news... :unsure:

Yeah, sure you would. I am sure that you would have all this courage when there is a guy with a gun who is about to kill anybody he wants to.

:rolleyes:

You know, he probably would. Maybe not by himself, but if he had help, I'm sure all of us would probably try to stop him/her.

That's easy to say now, but I'm sure your opinion (most people's opinion) would change real quick if they were put in that situation. Think about it, you throw the chair at him, even if you hit him, he'd still get a chance to take a few shots at ya after...

Yeah, that's true.

Hmm, shootings in schools, well at least we know that video games arent affecting anyone...right...??? :sneaky: :unsure: :sneaky:

I hate it when people say that video games screw people up. Video games are an escape from reality (except for factual games), not something for us to re-inact in real life.

But I guess video games can mess up those kids who are messed up to start with.

Well, everyone needs something to blame it on. So they pick the easiest target.

Okay whatcha gonna tell us Ric??

Ric, all of us aren't like you. Most of us might attack the attacker, but some of us would be paralyzed in fear. You can't automatically think that's what most of us would do. :unsure: I would attack him too, but I'd be careful not to get killed myself.

I know that most of the people get so scared and confused that they're just kinda paralysed. Most people think they would try and stop him, but when they actually see it happen, they're just not themselves... they can't help it, the only thing they can do is run away... :(

Ric was brave, but his knife-situation was not yet as shocking as when someone has already killed a lot of people with a gun.

If I saw some guy with a gun, my first little thoughts would probably be to run and hide or something :D I'm a wuss...

"There are over 1000 people at my school if a guy came round shooting then how hard would it be to throw a chair at the fu**er."

Well when there's a bunch of crazy scared people running around trying to get out of his way, it would be kinda hard to sneak up behind him, cuz chances are he'd be looking around to make sure none of those people were coming up behind him or something to attack him during all the commotion (if there was a lot of commotion cuz maybe the hallways and stuff were fairly empty I dunnos)...

Like I said, it looks like his goal was to kill teachers, but 2 students were too... were those students people he didn't like? Or were they people who tried to stop him?

It surprises me that they haven't revealed much about the whole case. Was the guy on drugs?? Did he leave a note?? :confused:

To be perfectly onast Ric, it's easy to say what you think you would do the situation. But until your actaully in the situation, you can't say for sure what you would do. I personally don't know what i would do, i'd like to think i'd have the courage to do something. But like i said, you never know what you'll actaully do when your in the situation.

If someone just walks into a school or a public place with a gun and starts shooting people, i don't care who you are. It would scare the sh!t out of you, and most people wouldn't beable to overcome there fear to try and stop the person with the gun. I can see you believe strongly that you would do something, and perhaps you would. I know you personally Ric, and i know that you are quite strong willed (I'm not going to mention that time with the dogs :D). But i still believe that no one knows 100% what they would do in a situation like that, until they've been in the situation.

I heard on the news that he was about to kill this one teacher, but the teacher said, "Go ahead and kill me, but look into my eyes while you do it." The shooter hesitated and then said, "I think that's enough." I wasn't really paying attention to the news, but I think I heard that the teacher locked him in, and soon afterwards he committed suicide. I'm not sure if it's true though. I was too busy beating the scenario in Advance Wars to really focus on the news.:p

Okay, you are brave when it comes to a knife. But trust me, a gun is such a different scenerio. Knives can kill, but the person has to be close, and you can dodge a knife, too. But with guns, you don't have to be close to get shot, and you can't dodge the bullet (unless you are Neo).

Also, just because you did it once doesn't gaurantee that you're going to do it a second time. You make choices in life and even though you may think you will respond one way to a situation, you might respond in another. Like if you were on the show Fear Factor and went in thinking that you were brave enough to eat those bugs, but once the plate was brought out it's very possible that you'd chicken out.

That's what I basicly told him in a chat.

Your turn Ric!

I read some more info a few days ago, forgot to post it.

He had hidden 500 bullets in a toilet.

Jin's story (I heard on the news that he was about to kill this one teacher, but the teacher said, "Go ahead and kill me, but look into my eyes while you do it." The shooter hesitated and then said, "I think that's enough." I wasn't really paying attention to the news, but I think I heard that the teacher locked him in, and soon afterwards he committed suicide. I'm not sure if it's true though. I was too busy beating the scenario in Advance Wars to really focus on the news.) is true, if we can believe the news.

There was more news... :hmm: *tries to think*