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Perfect Stu 10-25-2006 02:04 PM

PlayB3yond - PS3 marketing
 
http://www.playb3yond.com/


Check out the two videos that are up...under 'Smarter' and 'Capacity'.


The other ones say 'Coming Soon'.


Really cool :)

Dyne 10-25-2006 02:32 PM

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I loved the jab at HD-DVD where they had a handful of sunflowers and then when he inflected excitement in his voice over Bluray and said "over half the storage capacity" HD-DVD, and instead of another handful of flowers, they filled the field. Talk about a horrible attempt at subliminals. Not to mention the subsequent points, explaining like HD-DVD didn't have those.

Oh Sony.

Perfect Stu 10-25-2006 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne
Oh Sony.




New custom tag?

BreakABone 10-25-2006 03:27 PM

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Well just gonna write this as watch the vids.

The first one Smarter, I actually like the look of the commercial. But honestly, don't care about the tech.

I don't really like the garden thing in the 2nd commercial. How the hell was that double the amount of flowers? haha Anyhow, I liked the game clips at the end.

And I guess the rest were coming soon.

All and all they have a cool look, but when I don't care about the tech aspect, its eh.

Perfect Stu 10-25-2006 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone
Well just gonna write this as watch the vids.

The first one Smarter, I actually like the look of the commercial. But honestly, don't care about the tech.

I don't really like the garden thing in the 2nd commercial. How the hell was that double the amount of flowers? haha Anyhow, I liked the game clips at the end.

And I guess the rest were coming soon.

All and all they have a cool look, but when I don't care about the tech aspect, its eh.



so it would make no difference to you if the Wii was, say, 10 times more powerful?

BreakABone 10-25-2006 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
so it would make no difference to you if the Wii was, say, 10 times more powerful?

You are misunderstanding my statement.

I'm meant I honestly don't care how the Cell works or what it does. to me its nothing I will ever program.

The end results are completely different.

And to be perfectly honest with you, no I don't think it would make a huge difference to me.

Dyne 10-25-2006 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
so it would make no difference to you if the Wii was, say, 10 times more powerful?

I honestly don't care either how many raindrops a Wii would be able to provide thinking for.

Perfect Stu 10-25-2006 04:00 PM

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oh well...some people do. not necessarily myself, but lots of people...you can't please everyone. you could try to enjoy the rest of it (dyne)...the glass is half full.

thatmariolover 10-25-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne
I honestly don't care either how many raindrops a Wii would be able to provide thinking for.

I think the average Joe watching the commercial will care though. It's a cool demonstration of the systems capabilities, I do wish they'd really done everything to proper scale though and not simulated it; as for somebody like me little things stand out as misrepresented.

Dyne 10-25-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
I think the average Joe watching the commercial will care though. It's a cool demonstration of the systems capabilities, I do wish they'd really done everything to proper scale though and not simulated it; as for somebody like me little things stand out as misrepresented.

I like that they're showing game footage now. The aerial combat game was impressive. But the rest totally could've been done on the PS3, and that's unforgiveable if it's as powerful as they're gloating it is. What's the matter guys? You can't program for your own machine?

BreakABone 10-25-2006 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne
I like that they're showing game footage now. The aerial combat game was impressive. But the rest totally could've been done on the PS3, and that's unforgiveable if it's as powerful as they're gloating it is. What's the matter guys? You can't program for your own machine?

Do you mean PS2?

And if you do...

Then I don't know what to say.

I may not care much about how the Cell works.

But there is no denying. Ps3 games look awesome. Well for the most part, you always get the odd ones.

But yeah... And well Resistance till looks awesome.

thatmariolover 10-25-2006 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone
Do you mean PS2?

And if you do...

Then I don't know what to say.

I may not care much about how the Cell works.

But there is no denying. Ps3 games look awesome. Well for the most part, you always get the odd ones.

But yeah... And well Resistance till looks awesome.


Yeah, what Dyne's getting at is that the games looked awesome, but some of the tech demo things could have been similarly replicated on the PS2; Which I'd agree with (to a degree). Just think about what Microsoft did with the Ping Pong demo long before the Xbox was even out (though by the same token you could say that what devs could eek out of a PS3 for a tech demo will exponentially increase in the later parts of its life span as well). When a tech demo is the only thing being processed it makes the rendering that much easier.

I think the dramatic effect still shines, however.

Perfect Stu 10-25-2006 06:47 PM

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Resistance could in no way be done on the PS2 as anything more than a pre-rendered cutscene. When they show something that is pre-rendered, Sony takes slack for lying to gamers and when they show in game footage that in no way could be done on PS2, they get knocked for not showing off the system's power.

Then again, when you try hard enough you can criticize anything.

thatmariolover 10-25-2006 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
Resistance could in no way be done on the PS2 as anything more than a pre-rendered cutscene. When they show something that is pre-rendered, Sony takes slack for lying to gamers and when they show in game footage that in no way could be done on PS2, they get knocked for not showing off the system's power.

Then again, when you try hard enough you can criticize anything.

Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.Tech Demos.

Read the posts again. We said the games themselves couldn't have been done on PS2 (obviously they're far too impressive).

We're talking about the Tech Demos. Honestly you're so quick to cry wolf when any of us post - even when some of us are commenting on how impressive the in-game stuff is.

Teuthida 10-25-2006 07:22 PM

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Oh man, and here's another "This is Living" ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbDVOt-rDSo&eurl

Seriously...



And way the narrator speaks to the viewer in the playb3yond ads I might as well have my mittens sewed to the sleeves of my jacket.

KillerGremlin 10-25-2006 08:41 PM

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i think the ps3 is showing its worth...yeah, it's expensive, yeah sony is taking a lot of risk, but in 2 years when they really tap the potential of hi-def and putting a hundred objects on screen at once, i'm sure a lot of people will be going "ohhh" and "ahhhhhh."

Dyne 10-25-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover
Yeah, what Dyne's getting at is that the games looked awesome, but some of the tech demo things could have been similarly replicated on the PS2; Which I'd agree with (to a degree). Just think about what Microsoft did with the Ping Pong demo long before the Xbox was even out (though by the same token you could say that what devs could eek out of a PS3 for a tech demo will exponentially increase in the later parts of its life span as well). When a tech demo is the only thing being processed it makes the rendering that much easier.

I think the dramatic effect still shines, however.

Whoa whoa whoa. No. That's not what I meant at all.

I said the raindrops and sunflowers could be processed by the PS3! All of that schmaltzy crap. Why didn't they use the PS3? I would have a ton more respect for Sony if they came up front and showed us exactly what the PS3 was by rendering everything. I said the exact same thing for the "This is Living" boxing ad. If your graphics and Cell processor are so impressive, Sony, why don't you render WHAT YOU'RE DISPLAYING RIGHT NOW.

Really, this marketing approach doesn't build any trust with me.

thatmariolover 10-25-2006 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyne
Whoa whoa whoa. No. That's not what I meant at all.

I said the raindrops and sunflowers could be processed by the PS3! All of that schmaltzy crap. Why didn't they use the PS3?

Are we hardwired to think certain ways or something?

Yeah, I think I kind of went off on a tangent and lost meaning in what I meant myself. I really didn't mean tech demo, I meant simulated FMV; which are obviously two entirely different things. If you look at my first post, that was more clear, as I was disappointed certain aspects of it were faked.

At any rate, your point is clear, mine is not (because I was lost track of my own point mid post), and the world is as it should be.

Happydude 10-25-2006 09:26 PM

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Dyne never mentioned the ps2 :unsure:

i love those commercials...they're so cool.

Dyne 10-25-2006 09:26 PM

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And now I look like a dummy. I really edit my posts too much. :p

Edit: Hahaha, what is that "This is Living" ad? The Afrika footage definitely looks like it could be done on the PS2, and better, too. Where's my fur-shading techniques? That giraffe looked like plastecine.

Teuthida 10-27-2006 02:58 AM

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http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...Picture147.flv

This one played during the World Series. :wtf:

Dyne 10-27-2006 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Teuthida
http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...Picture147.flv

This one played during the World Series. :wtf:

What the **** did I just watch? :(

BreakABone 10-27-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Teuthida
http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...Picture147.flv

This one played during the World Series. :wtf:

Wow that is awful.

And o so very very creepy.

The kid had demon eyes,

Dylflon 10-29-2006 03:58 AM

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I'm excited about hte PS3. Probably will look into getting one when the price lowers a bit or when i get a better paying job. Hopefully I'll have an HDTV by that time.

Mmmmmmm.


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