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Crash 05-01-2006 01:21 AM

Is Wii a fake name?
 
There have been rumors about this. Since there is barely a week left before the big show, how many of you think this is a PR stunt to attract attention and discussion about the Revolution?

They did it with celda. Told us part 2 was cell shaded, and then hit us with a "realistic" version.

Quote:

this is from the ign boards, but it makes alot of sense. short: The nintendo PR punked us all.

Since things are going crazy right about now, I thought I'd add to it.

Kotaku Article (excerpt below)
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/punkd/d...wii-170381.php
I spoke with branding company Igor International yesterday about Nintendo’s choice of Wii as the new name for their next-gen console.

During the interview Steve Manning became convinced that Nintendo had deliberately picked a bad name for the console and that it was, in fact, fake. Manning thinks that Nintendo is creating an enormous viral campaign by releasing a fake name and then coming back during E3 and announcing the real one.


Snark Hunting Article (excerpt below)
http://www.snarkhunting.com/2006/04/...-wii-brilliant
Crazy? Here is the first clue, “By letting the gaming community vent now about the name, they will be less distracted as launch titles for the system are announced and initial reports about what it’s like to play the games begin to come in.” Allowing your audience time to vent is not SOP in a name announcement, and also telegraphs that Nintendo knows what a stinker this name would be. Second, it’s not possible to engineer a worse name for this product.

Third, and this is a big one, there are no trademarks registered by Nintendo nor by any dummy corp in the U.S or over there for Wii. This is unprecedented for Nintendo and it is not possible that this is an oversight. If Wii were the name, they would have registered it. In fact, no new trademarks have been registered by Nintendo at all. This leads us to conclude that Nintendo has in fact registered the real name under a dummy corp, which is SOP when trying to keep a name a secret prior to launch.

Given that their video game audience is the same demographic as Punk’d, this whole campaign is perversely elegant. Except of course for failing to make the illusion complete by registering a TM for Wii.


So is Wii the real name and Nintendo does the typical (use carts, purple cube, create celda) or is this a very intelligent PR stunt to get more attention?

You decide.

Typhoid 05-01-2006 01:25 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I sort of think it's a PR stunt, now that you say it.
Because look, it got people talking about Nintendo's new system more than they already were.

It's like an actor who has a movie coming out will usually do something huge and unexpected close to the release, to get in the news.

manasecret 05-01-2006 01:38 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Clearly it's been a good PR stunt to name it Wii, but they're not changing the name. C'mon, accept it and move on.

You guys are really moving slowly through the ol' Kübler-Ross model of grief. Still stuck in denial.

There's no option to "Yes I think they're keeping the name Wii. <---note the period"

GameMaster 05-01-2006 01:44 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Nintendo never lies to their gaming family.

Wii welcome the name with open, loving arms. Won't you?

Teuthida 05-01-2006 02:09 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
No, Nintendo just hates to have a product that's acceptable from every angle.

DimHalo 05-01-2006 03:30 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I think/hope it is a stunt. But if I am wrong, I will accept the name with open arms because it is still Nintendo and that's what matters.

Besides, I have a tendency to call all of my nintendo systems "Nintendo" so this one won't make much of a difference.

Dyne 05-01-2006 03:32 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
From the very beginning I knew it was.

But we'll see.

Teuthida 05-01-2006 04:14 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I figure it's not because only in English does it sound bad.

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Wii sound similar to "yes" in French, "how" in German, "good" in Japanese and "top" in Korean
And we all know how few English speakers play video games.

Lucid Faia 05-01-2006 07:13 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Is it just me, or was Revolution a really kick ass name for a console?

Jonbo298 05-01-2006 08:04 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I wouldn't mind if Ninty went and changed it to the Nintendo Rev. Just something shorter but people know what the full name is. Makes it seem less tacky when looking back 20 years from now :p

If the Wii name stayed, I'll still buy it. Just not enjoy the name as much :eyes:

Fox 6 05-01-2006 10:19 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
All you're polling is broken dreams.

MuGen 05-01-2006 11:21 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
All of the dispute about the name and the Rumor mill exploding about it being fake is just showing how much fans disapprove of the name whether or not they say They will get used to it or they willl accept it.

History has shown that a name is so much bigger than just a word... it's a brand. I don't think they named the shoe Nike for the hell of it because it's just a name. Thats why so much time is spent on naming. Because they want it to become a brand.

Jason1 05-01-2006 02:44 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I guess there is some decent evidence there, but I doubt it is a fake name. Mainly because its just so Nintendo to do the exact opposite of what would be good for them.

Teuthida 05-01-2006 03:14 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MuGen
All of the dispute about the name and the Rumor mill exploding about it being fake is just showing how much fans disapprove of the name whether or not they say They will get used to it or they willl accept it.

History has shown that a name is so much bigger than just a word... it's a brand. I don't think they named the shoe Nike for the hell of it because it's just a name. Thats why so much time is spent on naming. Because they want it to become a brand.

Nike is much better in that respect. Ancient Greek god of victory. Over and done with.

Wii...well you see it sounds like "we" which is you and me and the i's are people playing a game and the W is from the sound a cat makes according to this one guy we know...

Neo 05-01-2006 03:42 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Unless Kaplan is straight-up lying then it is a real name. There was an article on IGN about this.

Dyne 05-01-2006 03:59 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
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Originally Posted by Teuthida
Nike is much better in that respect. Ancient Greek god of victory. Over and done with.

Wii...well you see it sounds like "we" which is you and me and the i's are people playing a game and the W is from the sound a cat makes according to this one guy we know...

Exactly.

Can anyone think of brand names that are this awful though? All I can think of is Head, the sports company. Even though, it's powerful. It's more like "Man, today I'm going to go get some head." rather than "Man today I have to take a wee."

What if Sony renamed the PS3 the "Poopee". They might have a reasonable explanation for it, and they might get an A in marketing class for it (if the teacher has a sense of humour.) But Poopee is the most ****ing awful name you can think of. Wii is TOO. There is no denying this. It just has to be fake.

KillerGremlin 05-01-2006 04:12 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I just hope the Xbox360 or PS3 stands at E3 have something funny on their banners (do they have banners at E3), like, "now with less Wii."


Or, ""we-wii"" free. hahaha.

The Duggler 05-01-2006 05:49 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
It's certainly not fake when it's posted by Nintendo.

capablemachine 05-01-2006 08:47 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
PR stunt what garbage. He's an amazing idea. "Any news will make people talk about something more than they did before because, they have something to actually talk about."

Everytime they make some bad decision the same idiots chalk it up to some genious that only nintendo understands. It's so terrible it has to be part of some super clever plan.

DarkMaster 05-02-2006 12:52 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
The name symbolizes the same half-witted thinking and "look we're different" approach that I've expected of Nintendo for the past few years now. I fully believe this to be the real name.


Also, think about what would appear more idiotic: Calling your new system Wii, or pretending to call your new system Wii to piss everyone off for a few weeks then reveal a name that only could be better than that one. "Lol, we was just kidding" Come on now.

Teuthida 05-02-2006 12:53 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne
Exactly.

Can anyone think of brand names that are this awful though? All I can think of is Head, the sports company. Even though, it's powerful. It's more like "Man, today I'm going to go get some head." rather than "Man today I have to take a wee."

What if Sony renamed the PS3 the "Poopee". They might have a reasonable explanation for it, and they might get an A in marketing class for it (if the teacher has a sense of humour.) But Poopee is the most ****ing awful name you can think of. Wii is TOO. There is no denying this. It just has to be fake.

To be fair, when I first overheard two kids mentioning "PlayStation" on the bus ride to middle school one day, I thought it a very childish name. The first thought to come to mind was a toy from PlaySkool for toddlers. To go from a name like Genesis to PlayStation, I didn't have high hopes for that system. Plus I had previously heard of Ultra (N) 64 and Saturn. But look which turned out to be the success. Though I doubt many had my original feelings about PlayStation.

A name becomes what the item is. Mustn't look at the product and name as separate entities.

Dyne 05-02-2006 02:36 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuthida
To be fair, when I first overheard two kids mentioning "PlayStation" on the bus ride to middle school one day, I thought it a very childish name. The first thought to come to mind was a toy from PlaySkool for toddlers. To go from a name like Genesis to PlayStation, I didn't have high hopes for that system. Plus I had previously heard of Ultra (N) 64 and Saturn. But look which turned out to be the success. Though I doubt many had my original feelings about PlayStation.

A name becomes what the item is. Mustn't look at the product and name as separate entities.

Seriously though, it could be PUUPSTATION.

Nintendo is just inviting criticism.

Lucid Faia 05-02-2006 02:45 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I don't think you can compare any console name to Wii. It's that bad.

Teuthida 05-02-2006 03:44 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne
Seriously though, it could be PUUPSTATION.

Nintendo is just inviting criticism.

Maybe they were thinking along the lines of something universal like chi, ki, ka, or om...and just screwed up.

Fox 6 05-02-2006 10:13 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkMaster
Also, think about what would appear more idiotic: Calling your new system Wii, or pretending to call your new system Wii to piss everyone off for a few weeks then reveal a name that only could be better than that one. "Lol, wii were just kidding" Come on now.

Fixed.

Professor S 05-02-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I don't know about the name. Its definitely different, but I don;t know if its necessarily bad. I didn't like the name Xbox 360 at all, and it seems as if the name was a success anyway.

The only real problem I have with it is the spelling. The two i's kind of make me have to pee when I look at it.

Krypton 05-02-2006 05:03 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I voted yes, just sounds weird..

Perfect Stu 05-02-2006 11:25 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manasecret
You guys are really moving slowly through the ol' Kübler-Ross model of grief. Still stuck in denial.






Dyne 05-02-2006 11:27 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

Owned by hotlinking.

Crash 05-02-2006 11:30 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
I've moved on to the bargaining stage.

"Please God, I'll start going to church again, just don't let it be called WEEEEEEEEEE"

DarkMaster 05-03-2006 12:30 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
We received some Pre-E3 media assets tonight of a Wii game. The game is called "_____ Wii" and is copyrighted as such, so unless the developers are lying to us too, or Nintendo is lying to them, I think we can safely say that this name is here to stay.

So embrace the Wii. :bowdown:

MrCoffee 05-03-2006 12:54 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
at this point i dont know what to think, by the way the second article is wrong they have trademarks left right and center.

Swan 05-03-2006 01:03 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Do you think I could trademark Left, Right and Center?

Typhoid 05-03-2006 02:34 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
YOu people are fools.

Blindly following word, and word only.


There is no wii.

Wii does not exist, wii is all in your head.

GameMaster 05-03-2006 04:47 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Just got an E3 Insider report. The next installment in the popular franchise, Super Smash Bros. is set for development on the Wii console. I can't much else but I will toss a clue your way:

Fist = Wii-troller

Canyarion 05-03-2006 10:45 AM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
What a bad poll set up, I just answered the thread title "is Wii a fake name". So 1 less no and 1 more yes!

Perfect Stu 05-03-2006 12:47 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne
Owned by hotlinking.




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Dyne 05-03-2006 01:13 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

Still owned. ;) After refreshing and everything. It requires a copy/paste, which is the lowest end of the hierarchy.

GameMaster 05-03-2006 01:23 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Here it is.


Dyne 05-03-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Is Wii a fake name?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster

And thumbnailed!

This image just has bad luck. Maybe it was never meant to be.


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