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So, I calculated how much I make next week, and.. ooh, wow. <3

So anyways, I have two options: filling out my gamecube library completely, or buying a PSP. The thing is, I really like the PSP, and it looks hot as hell. But I could care less for the games on it.

Persuade/Dissuade me. I'm leaning towards Metal Gear Ac!d or Lumines, but I don't know. I usually like non-turn-based Japanese games, and I'm a bit iffy about replay value here.

What about Hot Shots Golf? I'm a huge fanboy of Mario Golf. Is it any different?

What are some of the things I can do with a PSP?

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I'd just wait until there's some games you're actually interested in before buying the PSP. Besides, there could, possibly (anything is possible..), be a price drop between now and then...


/me shrugs and walks away

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Lumines, Metal Gear Acid, Hot Shots Golf, Ridge Racer, and Wipeout Pure are all excellent titles for the PSP. There are a few others as well, but I've mainly played those 5.

If you're really into titles like Rez, Gitaroo Man, Space Channel 5, etc. then some would consider Lumines worth the price of admission alone. It's really awesome.

Metal Gear Acid is kind of a love it or hate it. I love Metal Gear, I love strategy games, so I love Metal Gear Acid, simple as that.

You can't go wrong with Hot Shots Golf, and if you're into racing games then you must check out Ridge Racer and/or Wipeout Pure.

If you want to go beyond games, you can pick up a 512MB or 1GB san disk memory duo and download a crap ton of music and pictures, or a few hours of TV shows, movies, etc. It's a great little device to have if you're willing to dish out the money.

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Awesome. Buy a PSP because it looks good and just stare at it. Sweet, mind if I join you? We can wirelessly connect and stare at our PSPs together!

If you don't like the games, don't waste your money on the hardware. PSP is not a collectors item, there's no reason to own it if you don't plan on playing it.

You paid $199 for that Gamecube you have, and now you want to pay $249 for a system with games you don't care for? Why? It's a waste of money.

I think you would be better off saving your money rather than buying a PSP. Once you buy the PSP, a couple games, a bigger memory card so you can realize it isn't a MP3 player, maybe waste some money on buying a movie just to say you've tried it, and you just spent a lot of money. Better off saving it for an Xbox 360. At least then you can sit around and change faceplates all day.

Seriously, $250 is ridicules. If you really wanted it, I'd say buy it. If not, wait. It'll drop in price. I want one too every time I go into a store, but I'm not spending $250 on a system that suffers from poor battery life and defective square buttons only because it has a big screen and pretty graphics. I'm more than sick of Metal Gear, and Hot Shots Golf. It's the reason I don't play my PS2. The only game that even peaked my interest is Death Jr, and I'll grab it for a couple bucks off eBay in a couple years.

Xbox 360 is coming out this fall, and despite how much I make fun of it, it will be the best system, hands-down for a year after its launch. I'll be playing my games in 720p over the best online service consoles have ever seen. If I'
m going to spend my money on a game system with horrible games, I'd rather go Xbox 360, not PSP.

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If you want a PSP for its games, prolly should wait. if your planning on running emulators or anything. might want to thinka bout picking it up before they up the ones they're selling in stores to a higher version, if they havnt already.

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Gekko loses. I bought it.

Somewhere, Kyuzo is applauding rautiously.

I bought it with Lumines, a 256mb card, a USB cable, and a leather pouch.

Anyways, thanks Darkmaster and those of you whom tried to dissuade me. I do feel kind of bad about dropping $500 canadian, but hell, when you make a lot of money, don't own a car, and you have no loans to pay off, it really isn't that much.

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Hot Shots Golf is my personal favorite PSP game so far... By far...

Yeah though you still prolly should've at least waited :p

But Null as for the emulator comment, the only PSPs that can run any kind of emulators out there right now are ones running on the firmware version 1.0 (I think is the one)... And unfortunately, the only ones that could possibly have that are unupdated Japanese PSPs from around launch time...

all US PSPs come with version 1.1, or whatever, which has some kind of... thing in it... that does stuff... and won't allow it to play the emulators that are out...

But I've heard it's just a matter of time before someone gets around it, I'm keepin my fingers crossed...

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I watched him buy it. With my eyes. Haven't seen it in action yet though.

Gotta let me try Lumines, dude.

P.S. "Coooome ooooon. Leeeeeather"

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But thats exactly my point. with each new version of firmware, its probably going to be harder to do. or at least take longer. the earlier version you have, the better chances you have of them making em work on yours.

1.5 will be cracked soon enough, sony released updates to 1.51 recently for a unknown 'security' fix. perhaps they know of a way people can make em run on 1.5's so they patched it. who knows. But i will never update my PSP unless i know they can run on the version im updating to.

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I'm still hooked on Wipeout Pure and Darkstalkers. Star Wars Episode I, II, III are supposedly going to be released on UMD simultaneously with III's DVD release in about half a year.

And Gekko... do you own a PSP? The thing doesn't suffer from any type of battery life. It has the expected battery life of what a machine like this can handle. I've listened to my mp3's all throughout my sleep with it still playing in the morning... I have a lump sum of mp3's in there... albeit it'll be almost dead in the morning... but thats a lot of hours. Playing a game without it jacked in, I can get in a good 4 hours. And I hardly find myself playing portably for more than 4 hours..... and thats one thing people over exaggerate.... people think because it's not as lasting as a DS or GB, means it has sucky battery life. But who honestly plays portably for 10 hours straight? Aside from long flights, there'll be a time where you'll eventually charge the thing.

PSP has sufficient battery life....it doesn't suck. And there is a Pelican Extended Battery out there that runs on 3 AAA batteries, making it's battery life up to 30 hours.... and it is a rechargable battery pack. Think about that? It's only $40.00 too.

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No, I don't own a PSP as I clearly stated in the post you're replying to. I have read plenty of tests from various sources, including PS exclusive magazines who say its battery life sucks, and they actually did the tests.

I'm not interested in using PSP as an MP3 player, it would be a very expensive downgrade. I would use it for playing games, and all the tests indicate the battery life is horrible. It might not be a big deal for you, if you play it sitting in your house where you're free to charge it at your leisure. I could go out and buy extended batteries, and I'm sure Sony is more than planning on capitalizing on their poor product by releasing their own extended batteries to try and suck more money out of their customers. Excuse me for expecting a PlayStation Portable to actually be portable. If you want to go out and buy a PSP for $249 and then go spend more money on a extended battery, be my guest. Again, sorry for thinking I should get what I paid for.

In Iraq, I killed hundreds of hours playing my GBA SP and Nintendo DS. You think sitting in an observation post outside a hostile city provided me a chance to charge the thing whenever I wanted? This isn't the Playstation Mini, it's the Playstation Portable, and until it becomes portable, don't expect me to buy it.

Anything else in the world and this would be an over-priced product with poor performance, but since it's a video game system, everybody worships the stupid plastic box and you're insane if you don't fall in love with a 4.3" screen. Give me a break.

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I was interested in the PSP when it first came out, but after a while I can see myself becoming very bored with it if there are no stellar games (I don't think there are any, as goes for DS).

At least the DS offers the touch screen which offers some fresh gameplay experiences. PSP atm seems like a portable PSX/2, which isn't what I really want

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Perhaps you should put your money towards a car rather than wasting it on new videogame consoles.

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Actually, I kind of regret buying a DS on launch. It's a cool portable, but right now there are very few games for it, and while there is a lot of stuff on the horizon, it's been collecting dust on my nightstand. I really wish Nintendo and Sony had just waited instead of rushing their two portables. Who knows, if they released them now, maybe both would have been substantially better, from a hardware and software standpoint.

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I use my parents' cars. Whenever I need to get somewhere, there's always one free.

It would be even more of a stupid decision. But let's not get into that.

I'm going out today to get either Ridge Racers or Hot Shots Golf. Lumines is really fun, but usually it takes a while for me to get in the drift of puzzle games. (I'm still not confident at Mr. Driller.)

Anyways, it's a hot piece of console. I'm loving it.

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He said put your money towards a car, as in save it. That way, when you move away, you can get a car and insurance.

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Dyne doesn't tell you guys how to spend your money.

The PSP makes him happy. Let him be happy.

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Well he actually asked for our input to how he spends he money. That's why this thread exists.

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The question was should he buy the PSP or some gamecube games, to be fair.

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Hey Dyne, congratulations! How's the quality of the Spider-Man 2 UMD? I know it's not really important but I think it's kind of cool you can watch movies on it.

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Phil, I'm sorry, I love you, but it's "I couldnt care less". I just dont like it how everyone, always, constantly, gets that wrong.



Anyways, I'm glad you are giving in to the sexyness, perhaps now you can let a certain tall Emo/Scene-ish guy borrow Windwaker and your GC?


*Cough*


Haha. :D

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enjoy your PSP, my man. I'm too poor to think about a purchase this year...maybe next year

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I think this the PSP is not your thing then. Because what most people overlook is the capability of the system. Many look at DS and GBA and compare their battery life to said PSP. But.... PSP's graphics... screen size.... resolution...... color depth.....are ALL a lot more powerful then the DS.... requiring more battery juice. That's why battery life with the PSP varies upon the type of activity your doing.

The PSP is perfectly portable... I don't always play it when it's plugged in... another miconception. But I don't find myself playing it portably for more than 4 hours.... that number is very irrational.

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It does require more battery juice, which is why Sony should've included a longer battery. It's not like they don't exist.

All you're doing is making excuses for the PSP's short battery life. Despite all the reasons you may come up with to why the battery life is shorter, and despite all the reasons why you may not use your PSP for more than 4 hours, the fact remains that the PSP has a short battery life.

You're right, the PSP is not my thing. I want a quality product for my money.

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Gekko, we respect your opinion, but try not to come off as bitter.

Anyways, more about me! I was only half satisfied with Lumines, but I picked up Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee today, and I'm completely satisfied with it. Thanks to DarkMaster and DeathsHand for the recommendation on it, I'm really really happy. I'm a huge Mario Golf fanboy and now it's great to have a 3D golfer in the vein of it, actually portable.

Woo!

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4 hours of battery life is enough for many people, but there are some of us who live in rural Canada, and I take 8 hour drives pretty frequently, and often longer ones as well. I don't want to only be able to play for a few hours, and then quit.

I disagree with gekko on PSP not being a quality product, because it is, but there should've been better battery life. Sure, it's more powerful than the DS, but DS having 2 screens to provides battery for... that's a LOT of juice.

I think it's cool that you decided on getting a PSP. I hope you enjoy yourself with it, and I'm jealous that you are playing Lumines and I'm not.

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Have you accessed GameTavern yet through your PSP via the unofficial browser hack?

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Nope, I haven't purchased Wipeout: Pure yet, in which the trick is available. I'm don't really plan to in the near future either. I'm thinking my next purchase will be Metal Gear Ac!d.

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Just explaining my point more clearly, since it seems to be a little misunderstood...

By quality, I'm judging it as a portable gaming system. Just like any other product, it's judged differently depending on what type of product it is.

Portable products have to be judged on a few additional criteria than its stationary counterparts. Its size, battery life, and durability are now a factor, as well as other items that make it more useful as a portable product. Laptops are the same way. If it's heavy, big, doesn't have many outputs, only gets a couple hours of battery life, and has keyboards that are difficult to see in the dark and hardware that is easily broken when banged around, it will be graded accordingly. Even if it is the most powerful laptop ever made.

But feel free to still disagree with me.

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well, by the sounds of it, you dont think the PSP is a 'portable gaming system'. so why would you judge it as something it isnt?

and I can save you your response

another crappy overpriced undervalued product blah blah blah we get the point

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You get what you pay for. In Japan the solo unit is $180 which isn't much more than the DS. We, the NTSC get a value pack, which is highly priced as it is.... is still a justified price. I'm PRETTY SURE if the unit came solo it'd be a mirror of Japan's $180 price.

$250 is expensive indeed, but a justified price. If you don't want to get all the extras don't get the PSP. But I know a lot of people who have said they don't need it, but in the end... use them.

No one wants a $180 PSP... and spend extra for a big memory stick duo if they really don't plan on using it as an mp3 player. The 32mb is a fine associate to it, and 32mb is very pricey..... seperately. Aside from Spider Man 2... they give you what you need. It's more of a Startup Kit rather than a Value Pack. But looking at the value pack price and saying it's an overpriced unit... is overlooking many things.

The $180 price tag is a lot more attractive, but thats the solo price point. Thats the price you should be looking at.

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Until they release it at that price, we can't look at that, because I can't go into a store and buy a $180 PSP.

Also, are the memory cards required for saves? If so, at least a 32MB card would have to be included into the price

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And woudnt you know it they'd find a way while im gone on vacation, i was hoping to of had it before i left. but none the less. emulators on 1.5 are now working.

i have the NES one on my PSP right now. runs WONDERFULLY. been playin some punchout goodness here at work. heh. forgotten how much i loved that game.

SNES one is still not quite perfect. a bit choppy at times. but its getting better. im hoping they'll eventually have the Genesis / SNES / GBA ones running perfect soon tho :) for now tho, i'll play the hundreds of NES games i currently have on my psp. hehe. i love this thing. :)

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I read about that a couple days ago, and doesn't it require you to have like two memory cards or something? Is there a way to just transfer them via USB?

Send me a PM with links to this new "information"

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originally it required 2 mem sticks, but now theres a way to do it with 1. i havnt tried the one using just 1 mem stick yet, i wanted to get the basic part down first. wasnt really too hard. i'll try the 1mem stick method soon tho.


i just use a little USB stick, that has a empty slot in it. i slide the memory stick into that and plug it into usb, it works exactly like a USB flash drive would.

i think you can use the usb cable to connect the psp directly to the computer with the mem card inside that tho.

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Wait wait wait Null... You have a Japanese PSP? :confused:

If you have an American one, check the Firmware Version... If it's 1.51, them you must show me this emulator :>

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Emulators are starting to work on american ones now.

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No, the 1.5 swaploit trick works on 1.5 PSPs, which is what all the North American PSPs are by default.

I downloaded the swaploit trick the second it came out and I am thoroughly satisfied with my PSP now. I'm finally finding time to play through Terranigma and Final Fantasy 6. It's totally, completely worth the price now.

The only problem I have is keeping my PSP in sleep mode. Apparently if you keep it in sleep mode while playing an emulator, you run the risk of corrupting your memory card. I back my data up every time I go out now.

And I guess the other problem is that SNES is choppy on some games for me. Like, Kirby Superstar is really.. unplayable due to the speed it runs at. Everything else is fine if you clock the right frameskip in, aside from music distortions. Null, they released a really, really good genesis emu yesterday and it works fantastically.

Have you tried changing your backgrounds Null? That's really cool.

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unless you updated yours, you should have 1.5, not 1.51


and no dyne, i havnt tried the new backgrounds yet. Is there a way to save the current backgrounds the psp has? i dont want to be stuck without a way to get the original ones back on.

I'll have to try the gens emu next. im very happy they found a way tho for you to set the CPU on the PSP up to its full 333 mhz, sony stuck it at 222mhz cuz of the battery issue, but with emulators running off the mem stick, battery isnt much of an issue. so its nice to be able to run it at full power. altho im using that a bit sparingly incase they did something wrong and the psp doesnt like running at that.

i think they'll have the SNES games running perfect eventually. they need to optimize it a bit more which will help it gain power.

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Couldn't answer you there. But why would something read on the memory card affect something on the BIOS? From what I've seen it's just a soft overlay on the background animation, not a full-on change. But I could be wrong.

I've run everything at 333 MHz so far, and nothing bad has happened. In fact, I'm still on the same battery charge from a few days ago. I've also listened to MP3s for two hours, and watched a 20-minute episode of Zelda. Also, a bit of RE: Apocalypse.