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MuGen 03-10-2005 11:52 AM
Sony's GDC Presentation
 
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Originally Posted by ps3portal.com
While much of their GDC presentation was cloaked in techno-babble and industry-speak, Sony reps Mark DeLoura and Dominic Mallinson underscored the paradigm-shifting approach Sony is taking with its future console.

“The goal for the developers is to create the next generation of entertainment,” declared Mark DeLoura, Manager of Developer Relations, Sony Computer Entertainment America.

Sony, IBM, and Toshiba co-developed and unveiled the specs on the Cell chip in early February. The 4 GHz architecture is comprised of a 64-bit Power processor core, which is surrounded by eight Synergistic Processor Units (which themselves house four Floating Point Units), for a chip capable of delivering 256 gigaflops at 4 GHz.

According to Dominic Mallinson, Director, Sony Computer Entertainment America R&D, “We can run multiple operating systems on the chip at the same time.” He later added, “Each operating system can protect the others from crashes or security problems.”

Mallinson and DeLoura also detailed that unlike the PS2, PS3’s Cell technology will allow designers to program for it in more complex languages, such as C/C++. After hearing about the development kits for the PS3 and it's Cell technology, Sony signed 5 more third party developer contracts at the GDC.

Additionally, the Cell will support Collada XML for PS3’s art assets interchange, and the OpenGL ES applications programming interface for 3-D graphics. A partnership with NVIDIA will see the graphics card maker begin producing PS3 GPU by the end of 2005.

In a January interview with Xbitlabs.com, NVIDIA corporate marketing head David Roman said, “This is the next generation GPU [...] It will support DirectX 9, Shader Models 3; it will be the most feature-rich, the most powerful GPU that we’ve ever created.”

Sony’s GDC presentation comes just a day after the news that top members of Sony’s high command will get the first look at the PS3 in action during a closed door presentation in Japan next week.

Mallinson also clarified Cell's progression,
"Our research & development team has resolved any issue's relating to the Cell chip regression. We will have 8 APU's in this chip and it remains at the announced specs."

The GDC has been rife with talk of those rumors, but alas, no one from SCEA is saying or denying anything.

Source: FileFront
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mallinson
"Our research & development team has resolved any issue's relating to the Cell chip regression. We will have 8 APU's in this chip and it remains at the announced specs."
AWESOME!!

Null 03-10-2005 12:28 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
very interesting. nice to see that the third parties are interested and signing up.

Hopfully Nintendo can attract the 3rd parties also this gen, but i have visions in my head about they explain thier next console, and ask which 3rd parties would like to sign up and hearing cricket sounds.

Jonbo298 03-10-2005 12:29 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Pretty cool.. But by the sound of it, price of something like the PS3 is gonna be huge unless they make it cost effective by next year.

MuGen 03-10-2005 12:31 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
If it's under $500 I will buy it.... anything more... .......
...

... I will still buy it...

EDIT: you can almost tell that Cell has been completed... considering they are already showing the ps3 in action to high ups in Sony.

Blackmane 03-10-2005 12:31 PM
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The console sounds really powerful, but like Jonbo says, I'm fearing the moment when they say "the PS3 will retail at $399"...

Ahh!! Well, maybe it won't be that bad. I'm betting on a $299 retail. Still very expensive.

MuGen 03-10-2005 12:37 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
whoa... I highly doubt anything like the ps3 will cost $299..... I don't fear, but I'm predicting they launch it at $399 the most reasonable price for something so powerful.

And if the Cell chip can run 2 OS' one that protects crashes and security problems and one that runs the system, I can imagine a console with almost close to no loading time, and absolutely no cases of Freezing......

speaking of which... I was playing URBZ and I had like 200 reputation points then the game froze.....

Please... ps3... prevent freezes!!

Blackmane 03-10-2005 12:40 PM
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I'm going to laugh when they go through all this trouble to make the console never freeze, and I'm playing a game with my friends and all of a sudden it freezes. I will laugh so hard.

And Kyuzo, you do realize that most people do not want to pay upwards of $400 for a console. Most people are not willing to pay a huge sum of money and will wait for the price to drop before buying.

At any rate, I think that even if Cell costs a lot of money to produce, that Sony will still price it lower and take a hit for it. The question is, how big of a hit?

GameMaster 03-10-2005 12:50 PM
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True gamers will refuse to pay anything more $200 for a console.

If the companies won't comply with our budgets, than video gaming will just have to become the rich man's sport.

MuGen 03-10-2005 12:52 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
True gamers will refuse to pay anything more $200 for a console.

If the companies won't comply with our budgets, than video gaming will just have to become the rich man's sport.
True gamers refusing to pay? I dunno where your from, but Gamers in my town find a way to get any game they really want.

My friend works $6.25/hour at McDonalds and he manages to score the hottest games.

And I dunno whose budgets your talking about. My friend manages well, working at Mickey D's.....

People without jobs... don't even have budgets...

In reality.... even if it releases at a all time high of $400, Parents will buy it for their deserving children, and people with part time jobs will save up at least 3 paychecks to get it. Parents are shelling out $250 for an iPod only for music..... so if PS3 releases Fall of 2006, parents will definitely shell out for the holiday season.

So if they release it at $200 thats fine and dandy with me, but if it's at $400 or lower............ I can totally understand why. All I know is.......

There will always be a way.

Null 03-10-2005 01:12 PM
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i guarentee you both PS3 and Xbox2 will release at $299.99 American.

the nintendo is a bit more tricky, im kinda thinking 249.99 as an initial price for that.

Blackmane 03-10-2005 01:37 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Damnit, I agree with Null AGAIN. Whats going on here?

You better stop it, man. I'm starting to get weirded out with all this agreement.

And, the point I was trying to make was, yea, some people would still buy the console if it was $400, but when two other consoles are sitting there and they both have good games and they are both $100-$150 cheaper than the PS3, which ones do you think some mom and dads are going to get instead?

There's always a way, and that way is to get a different console :p

MuGen 03-10-2005 01:56 PM
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Arrgghhh... you totally just owned me and I am not afraid to admit it.

So long as there are die hard Sony fans with good jobs, Sony will own the console market!
'Tis why Sony targets older audiences, because young adults from the age of 16 and older usually will have jobs by that age.... if they don't have jobs by 16..... then somethings wrong

Perfect Stu 03-10-2005 04:28 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GameMaster
True gamers will refuse to pay anything more $200 for a console.

If the companies won't comply with our budgets, than video gaming will just have to become the rich man's sport.

someone needs to study the market a little more :nono:

tens of millions of console gamers prove your little theory wrong

About the PS3...everything's sounding good. 3rd parties signing contracts is always a plus (although expected).

BlueFire 03-10-2005 05:34 PM
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The price is turning me off. I'll have to hold out, until I actually have money, but I'll definetly own one. :]

Perfect Stu 03-10-2005 05:39 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
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Originally Posted by BLueFire
The price is turning me off. I'll have to hold out, until I actually have money, but I'll definetly own one. :]

um...what price?

Blackmane 03-10-2005 05:50 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
The speculated price, of course!

MuGen 03-10-2005 05:57 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
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Originally Posted by Blackmane
The speculated price, of course!
There hasn't even been a speculated price yet.

These are estimated rumors from guys like us... lol

Blackmane 03-10-2005 06:16 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Thats what I meant when I said speculated price. My speculated price :D

Sorry to confuse.

Perfect Stu 03-10-2005 06:25 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
the Subway toasted club sandwich I was going to have tonight sounded good, but some tap-dancing hobo said it would probably cost $600 (and that I should drop out of school, but that's besides the point)...and that's a little too rich for my blood


the preceeding story is probably true

Blackmane 03-10-2005 06:28 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Are you calling me a tap-dancing hobo, Mr. Stu?

Perfect Stu 03-10-2005 06:34 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
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Originally Posted by Blackmane
Are you calling me a tap-dancing hobo, Mr. Stu?


...probably?

BlueFire 03-10-2005 06:41 PM
Re: Sony's GDC Presentation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Stu
um...what price?
The mostly determined guess that the price will range from 299.99 to 499.99 (most likely 299.99 which is still a lot of money considering my financial situation)


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