X-Box sales in Europe!!
 

It appears that things are not going very well with the Xbox. Official reports have come in that huge retailers are already dropping the Xbox price because the console does not sell. MediaMarkt is one of the huge retailers dropping their price. They dropped their xbox price from 479 euro to 399 euro. Is is being said that because of the lack in pre-orders they are trying to clear their stock.

The most interesting thing is, that small retailers have already
announced to completly stop selling the xbox....

I know that we sometimes seem fierce against the Xbox, but even we didn't wish that the xbox would sell so bad. Cube-Europe.com

And look here, they posted my comment! http://www.cube-europe.com/fullnews....6120782,77104, scroll down and you'll see me (Angrist, AKA Stephan Moed) :D

do you have an Xbox site that can support this?

did anyone expect the XBox to do well in Europe? Or Japan for that matter?

No...

so this topic is fairly pointless

I actually expected the X-Box to do well in Europe.

Japan I had my doubts about but the European market was always simailr to the US IMO.. but I guess it ain't

Wow, this isn't good news. But then again, it is a Nintendo site which is spreading the ill news, so there is obviously a HUGE bias there.

well i thought the x-box would sell in europe...I'll wait till another site has it..like IGN or PGC. :D

I'm going to wait for IGN and GameSpot to confirm this, but in the past, I haven't had complaints against Cube Europe. Well, except for their pop-up ads.

Anyways, it sounds like the price of the Xbox is the deciding factor here. Or am I wrong? Are the British really that fanatical about Nintendo?

*writes down Angrist's real name before he forgets*

And by the way, I like this comment the best:

That's weird. I've never heard of a place called "wagga wagga" in Australia. Do any Australians here know what he's talking about? Or is it that he's making some things up...

It was in the Dutch paper this morning. http://www.telegraaf.nl/digilink/tek...troductie.html You can't read it because it's Dutch, but it basicly says that not much were sold the first day.

And Xantar, my real name is Stephan Moed.

Pft, Dutch is probably just like English. So I can read it.

*attempts to read article*

Hmm... Looks like French to me. :hmm:

Please, consider the source. Cube-Europe? I do believe biased comes to mind.

Also keep in mind the Xbox was launched just a few days ago. Official numbers have not even been released, and the actual consoles that were released aren’t even known. At least wait for an independent source to confirm this.

And notice how they use words such as 'low' and 'lack'. They use that because they have no specific information.

How lame is this console war getting? I mean Cube-Europe should report about GameCube news (hence the title) not take cheap shots not even independently confirmed by any source. Maybe they are doing this because they have no better news to report, that's just lame.

Until this is confirmed by an independent source, I would disgrade this. Pointless topic.

Read my other post. It's at least confirmed by Dutch newspapers.
The thing just doesn't sell, easy as that.

Oh yeah, a friend's friend bought one, but he also found scratches on his discs to he got his money back and bought a PS2. (not confirmed though, not sure if I can trust the guy)

I agree man! Thanks for the Dutch newspaper article. I'm sure now under 1% of the forum believes what you have to say because they can read Dutch.

If you can't confirm it and don't even trust the guy then what is the point of even posting it? Just typing false information.

Bond, if you have been around as long as I have, then you would know that Angrist isn't one to lie.
The Xbox is doing pretty good around Britain, but inner Europe is another story.

May I bring up this article. That is actually in English:

http://www.mad.co.uk/story/breaking....OC200203150009

Xbox tops PS2 sales in first night
By Deborah Bonello

"The launch of Microsoft's much-hyped video games console Xbox got off to a strong start yesterday when the entertainment system went on sale at retailers throughout the UK and outran Sony Playstation 2's firstly monthly sales in one night.

According to figures from the high street retailer Virgin Megastore, it sold more Xbox consoles in Glasgow during the first night of sales than its rival PS2 did in its first month, despite the retailing price of the Xbox being £100 higher at £300.

HMV also said that sales of Xbox on its launch day were "certainly meeting expectations, and we are on target to sell as planned."

Virgin said that demand for the Xbox was so high that stores opened at midnight in London, Glasgow, Dublin, Manchester and Birmingham yesterday to serve people who had been queuing outside the stores hours before opening time.

Virgin sold over 100 Xbox consoles at each of its locations on Xbox's launch night, and its store in Oxford Street sold 250 during the launch night and a further 70 before lunchtime that day.

The launch of Xbox has been heavily marketed by Microsoft, which kicked off a TV ad campaign last week through BBH. An online viral marketing campaign for the system has been running for several weeks.

Microsoft has come under fire for some of its marketing initiatives. The computer giant has been accused of giving preference to its own in-house computer games and software above those of its competitors.

Playstation 2 is expected to present Xbox with stiff competition, and Microsoft has received a number of complaints following the launch of Xbox in Japan in November that the console scratches DVDs and CDs."

*smacks Bond*

That's only about the UK, Angrist and everyone else were referring to Europe as a whole, not just the UK ;).

Bond, you're acting like what you told other people to stop acting like in the other post. Apparently nobody can like the sites that give Nintendo games good reviews or they're biased idiots, yet you believe the site that has good news on X-Box and not the two sources that say otherwise. :rolleyes:

dear god...I agree with him

I realize that Ridley. But that article was so far the only article in English I have been able to find about the Xbox launch in Europe.

If the site Angrist suggested was actually in English, I may believe it. Also may I add this is an Xbox article from a GameCube website. It's obviously going to be biased.

Mad.co.uk is as far as I know is an unbiased website and does not relate to only one console.

I don't care if people complain about a website that only covers one console and gives those games very high or low scores. It's quite obvious that website only dedicated to one console is going to be biased.

But when people go around saying EGM gives out bad scores to Nintendo the one issue Nintendo videogames did not get so great scores, and then go back and say EGM is great because Nintendo videogames got great scores that month is idiotic.

I am offering different views from different websites. And that is really what this website needs. Because normally all you get is opinions from one side on many videogame matters.

Geez, you guys. Why are you getting so worked up? Can't we wait for some official numbers from some official group that has access to some official data or something official like that? It's not like waiting a week or two before making your decision is going to kill you.

You backed yourself up well...

That's what I always wait for Xantar. But when people present false information it is always fair to show opposing views.

I will as usual post the official Microsoft press release on sales when it's released.

Eerm...I wasn't talking to you (just in case you were thinking that). But thanks for backing me up. :D

Bond, you don't believe the article just because you can't read it yourself??? Why would I lie? :rolleyes: BTW it's the most popular newspaper in Holland and it is reliable. And it says that the XB launch was a flop, which is the translation of failure. But that might just be Holland. Perhaps it did better in the UK.

I guess this is what Cube-Europe was talkin bout:

Early in the morning on March 14, a major retail chain named Media Markt launched a nationwide TV campaign in which it announced it is selling the Xbox for the retail price of 399 euros ($352) instead of Microsoft's suggested retail price of 479 euros ($423). This price drop caused a major uproar in the industry, with many other German retail chains following suit, resulting in zero profit for individual retail outlets. Media Markt's strategy was to lure gamers into their stores in the hope that they'd buy more games or peripherals for Microsoft's debut console. Naturally, smaller stores had to stick to their pricing and couldn't give price reductions to people who preordered the console.

"We'll analyze the situation but retail prices are the trade's decision," Microsoft Germany's director Hans Stettmeier told industry paper MCV in response to the price drop. "We can't and won't interfere with that." Official distributors are now working with smaller retailers to offer them a solution. However, it remains uncertain as to whether the price tag will stay at 399 euros ($352) and whether smaller shops will have to follow suit. If that is the case, most shops in Germany are unlikely to make any profit on sales of the console.

The price is simpy too high.

Well, it seems as though a chain has dropped the price. So problem solved there.

And of course I am not going to believe something that is in a different language. Please wait for the official announcement rather than posting speculation.

uh...I think he's trying to say that what he posted is NOT speculation...

This brings to mind the "fact" about the XBox recall in Japan...
:rolleyes:

If it's not speculation then why are there no specific numbers?

LMAO!!! :D

I saw heaps of X-Box boxes in stores today. At least 15 in one store. :unsure:

Angrist, we get your point. But really, that means nothing. One store? I'll wait for an official announcement, just like these other people.

That's great! I'm glad that Microsoft is keeping a good stock!

But I agree with Perfect Stu, please stop these pointless comments. Actually display some facts and real numbers, then someone may believe you.

Wait till the official announcement. Is it really that hard to do?

Gee, that seemed to shut everyone up, didn't it?

Indeed.

I'm not saying that this was a bad launch (if the numbers about PS2's launch are right, then XBox did really well), but isn't Europe supposed to be the biggest videogame market? Is it because Europeans buy the most software rather than the most consoles?

Wait a second. That's not the article I thought it was. Where is it from? I was thinking of a Computer and Videogames article which said XBox sold 80,000 in the first 3 days (which was apparently good compared to PS2's 70,000).

Anyways, I hate to sound like the nitpicking fanboy, but I didn't see any solid numbers in PuPPeT's article. All I saw was pleased statements from Microsoft and retailers which isn't a bad thing but doesn't quite have the impact of a nice, solid number. Did I miss something?

Take this information however the way you want to take it...

In short, Xbox software is doing very well around europe, though ofcourse, none of the games (not even Halo) could reach number one, as MGS2 has been dominating recently.

But if you wanted hardware figures, read this...

link

Though that most likely was in the UK, and not the whole of Europe...

Really? That's quite surprising.

It seems like M$ still hasn't released official numbers....

And if what Xantar and Shadow_Link are saying is true (80.000 in whole Europe, 48.000 in GB only), than that's kinda sad. That means they sold more XB's in the UK than in the rest of Europe together. :unsure:

Angrist please stop your speculation. It brings you no where and it's pointless.

Once again if you could just have patience and wait for the official numbers.

But if you want to take speculation, actually read it correctly: