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http://cube.ign.com/articles/590/590427p1.html

People have the right to opinions. I may not agree with him but if Nintendo does ever get bought out my Microsoft, I'm done with Console Gaming. Mainly because it wont ever feel the same without a company who has been around for so long to see ups and downs in the industry. Unlike Sony and MS who have yet to feel the "brunt" of the Industry and from my view think its a Yellow Brick Road.

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I'm with you, Jonbo. I've come too far and invested too much care into Nintendo to cast my allegiance to another company. If Nintendo sinks, I'm going down with it.

Even if all my favorite Nintendo characters somehow made it onto another console, I think I'd hang up my controller for good anyways.

All good things must come to an end. :(

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With the Revolution, Nintendo will reclaim its video game console dominance again. Or at least I hope so. :Nintendo:

Nintendo is the only company I am loyal to. I like Microsoft and Sony, but Nintendo is all about the gamer and having fun. I think Microsoft would just be hurting the industry to buy Nintendo.

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:Nintendo: for life

eh, people have their own opinions, we wont get into the stuff about microsoft losig 6 BILLION dollars this generation, trying to get their xbox to work sell or that xbox has only 3 games in the top 50 selling games this generation (halo, halo 2 and splintercell)

but yeah, Nintendo is the one going down, even though since Iwata has become president, Nintendo's profit has risen 30%

get a life Trip, no one likes EA and their cookie cutter game crap

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a games a game people. loyalty to a videogame company makes no sense at all.

as for nintendo, i actually could see it happening, ms offered to buy them before, and nintendo said they thought about it before saying now. if MS keeps wearing them down with good offers, i can see nintendo caving, which actually could REALLY help nintendo. sell more games, wouldnt have to worry about hardware, wouldnt have to worry about online, they could just enable thier games and let the console company deal with it.

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nintendo will never be second party to microsoft... EVER, they are sooner to go with Gizmondo

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That makes more sense than you think.

If the business world would be a little more about companies being true to it's own product instead of doing anything including changing the product completely in order to get more sales, than I think the world would be a little bit better.

I love Nintendo the way they are. I don't want them to change.

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well isnt it crazy what money will make you do then? if this site was going to be around that long, you could put a vbookie bet on it. will nintendo be bought by MS within 5 years?. i'd bet yes. i think it will happen around the 3rd/early 4th year of next gen

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I wouldn't mind a Microsoft/Nintendo merge...as long as Nintendo is still allowed to express their creativity. Trip Hawkins is still a jackass though...my hate for EA only grows.

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Ah just like the good ol "Nintendo Dolphin" days... Go optimism!

I think the only way Nintendo would go software only is if Sony (or someone else, but PSP is the most obvious competitor at the moment) manages to take over the handheld industry as well... Not saying that's gonna happen...

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this is the same clown that drove 3DO straight into the ground, he knows nothing about success in the video game industry.

He also owns "digital chocolate" and everyone knows how successful that is

He also tried to make the M2 game system like 10 years ago(we all own that system dont we?)

Army Men, BattleTanx, Heroes of Might and Magic, and High Heat Baseball are the best games in their genres totally.

Seriously, we shouldn't even listen to this guy who runs 2 companies into the ground, and happens to have lots of money in EA to publish a bunch of crap games under more crap lisences!

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Null, you say a games just a game. Then you shouldnt choose preference of Mac or PC because "A computer is just a computer" or choosing Chevy over Ford because "A car is just a car".

Competition exists for a reason. I like Nintendo because of their History and thinking outside the box. Not all the time has it been the best of things but at least they aren't afraid to try something new.

But everyone has an opinion. If the company I loved buried itself by going to big corporation, (as said above) the games won't feel the same.

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As long as :Nintendo: won't be some slave of M$, I don't think it's that bad.
Microsoft could create the console with a little help of Ninty, Nintendo the controller with some input of M$ and they both could create their own games. That way they can possibly beat Sony...

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incorrect, i never said not to have a preference, not once. i said blind loyalty is stupid. and in your examples. blind loyalty to a PC and ignoring all the good things from a mac is stupid. if your going out shopping for a new car. blind loyalty to ford, and dismissing everything chevy has just because its not a ford you can miss out on some good cars.

competition exists to make money, the side effect is that you get better products. dont get that mixed up. its all to make money, if one could kill the other they would do it in a heartbeat.
I always loved nintendo, but thier INABILITY to think outside thier own tiny little world caused me to open my eyes and look around, and i thank nintendo for that. its exactly what i had needed at that time.

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Far be it for me to think that all Nintendo consoles were boxes albeit the N64? ;) LOL... I'm just kidding.

I'm in COMPLETE agreement with Null. I have a preference for the PS2 but when I see a game I like for Gamecube or Xbox, I won't mind playing it.

So if you completely give up gaming because Nintendo was bought by Microsoft in 5 years... it sounds completely ridiculous. Even though Microsoft would own Nintendo... the entity Nintendo still remains and if you won't even support Nintendo after the merger..... then that just defeats the whole purpose of having loyalty for Nintendo in the first place.

If you are truely loyal to Nintendo, or Sony, or Microsoft in any case.... you'll follow them wherever they go......... no matter what decisions they make on the BUSINESS/MARKETING front.

My viewpoint is that if ANY of those 3 companies merged, they would totally dominate the generation and make serious money off each other.

But nonetheless..... giving up on Nintendo if they sold to Microsoft is just competely and utterly ridiculous. Loyal fans??? where???

I'm a Sony-bot, however I like Nintendo and I'll still play their games without hesitation, no matter what happens.

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well its rather amusing that he bought up the analogy that a cars just a car. Would that mean mean if you are 'loyal' to ford, and ford goes out of business that you are never going to buy another car ever again? a good car IS indeed a good car, it doesnt matter who makes it.

thats the way i see games. why should it matter who makes the game? its a videogame. preference is good, absolute devotion is just silly.

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Well cars don't let you play Zelda. :unsure:

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some do. some have tv's and gamecubes built in :p

but also with that way of thinking, if nintendo was bought by MS, then Xbox whatever would let you play zelda.

see thats the main thing, i couldnt care less if nintendo makes the console themselves. if i still get zelda and the other good games on whatever console. what the hell is the difference?

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You all can continue thinking its ridiculous, and you know what? I dont care. The intent of this thread wasn't that. Hence, the sarcasm or whatever in the thread title.

I already said the games wouldn't feel the same. And I wouldnt seem to be supporting Nintendo, I'd be supporting Microsoft, which at last check takes months to adjust/fix things. But thats my opinion.

Bling loyal/fanboy'ism? Whats your point? Trying to make me feel so bad to the point that I go cry in the corner. Just because I prefer Nintendo to the others doesnt mean I never think about playing games on other consoles. I have in the past. Someday I'll own an Xbox but not because of Halo/Halo 2, but because of Conker because its shaping up to be a good game and loved the original.

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taking it a bit personally. and no one said anything about your preference. everyone has a preference of which console they like best. you brought preference into this, not anyone else.

but if nintendo went to MS, and i still bought the nintendo game on the MS system, i am still supporting nintendo. just also supporting MS. But, the way you put it, makes it sound like, if 1 cent goes to MS while im trying to support nintendo then its not worth it.

Sorry, i just dont get the idea behind giving up something you like and really hurting the company you like just because some of your money goes elsewhere. a games a game.

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my point exactly...

if a person is loyal to Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft then they should support them in WHATEVER WAY possible.... even if money goes to the partner company.

of course thats my opinion...... and preference was never the issue. people started posting how they would give up gaming if Nintendo went to Microsoft. If anyone is a true gamer they'd still support the entity of Nintendo, no matter what.

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What is trying to be said is that if Nintendo was bought out, then the games wouldn't be the same, therefore "a games a game" wouldn't be correct. The game would then be inferior to what it could be. At least, that is my opinion of what would happen if the company was bought out by MS and they had a controlling interest in what they produced.

Of course, I like Nintendo. It has always been my brand of choice. However, I would surely continue gaming no matter what (CounterStrike: Source is my love right now :D)

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I am a loyal fan to Nintendo, but I also own all three consoles and am currently playing games for PS2 and XBox. If game is a good game then I will buy it regardless if it is Nintendo or not. Nintendo doesn't have the INABILITY to just think inside their own little world, what makes them great is that they are the only company that thinks outside the box.

You can't honestly tell me if Nintendo had been bought out by Microsoft 5 years ago that there would be talk about a new console going to revolutionize gaming. The reason why I am against a merger is because of the direction Nintendo likes to take the gamer. They like to come up with new and original ideas and Sony and Microsoft just like to improve on whats already existing.

Im not saying that if there was a merger I would no longer support Nintendo, it would just be a very dissapointing and sad day for the video game industry.

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well....... i'm not saying no one would be disappointed... but I can't see Nintendo's fans giving up gaming because of a merger.

I think any real person would be sad if their company got bought out.... but in the longrun their company is still with them in their hearts ( lol )

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hmm... take a look at this:



http://www.p-nintendo.com/news/N-1064063123.html

and everyone knows that xbox sells like 400 units a week in japan compared to gamecube 25000

xbox leads gc in n. america and that's it, but they are definately in second place worldwide, plus nintendo is actually making money by selling more software, and not at a loss... if anyone quits, it'll be microsoft.. they'll probably not last another losing generation.

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i dont see why it wouldnt be the same tho, it would still be nintendo making the game, Microsoft may say no to a project, saying we dont want to publish a game like that. but they arent going to come in and say hmmm. make ganondorf wear pink shoes. it would be all nintendo making the game.

and you wouldnt be worried about what it 'could be' because you'd be hapy of what it is. it would still be a game and therefor, a games a game.

However, i should rephrase that to say, a good game is a good game.


(whats your name in CSS?, should play sometime)

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I bet bill gates would step in and say something about making Zelda appear more racier.... lol... but other than that I dun think Nintendo would let Microsoft interfere with their games if they got bought.... Microsoft can only trash a project, not alter it........i hope...

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Sorry Crash but that's bullcrap and you know it. M$ won't leave the console market. Never. They have enough money to monopolize that market as well. In the end they are going to win unless somebody has a VERY good plan to stop them.

Even though Nintendo still makes a lot of money, they are losing ground. :(

Not saying that I don't have faith in Nintendo. :D

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No one is going to drop the console market unless they aren't seeling at all. As long as their is a fan base for anything, they will remain.

Didn't you wonder how Sega left? Cuz the Tri-minion of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft stole their fanbase.

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Ah Crash...Thank you for that wonderful post :)

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Microsoft has enough money but money can't buy everything

They can put all their money into the console market and still wouldn't be able to beat Sony. Because they are meant to be a software company...hence Microsoft[ware]

Yes... that is a fanboy comment.....

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Well, you may have a point, but you cannot deny that Microsoft, if they bought Nintendo, would try to make the hit franchises more applicable to older ages according to their idea of what older people want.

But, this is a silly arguement because Nintendo will never die! Long live Nintendo!!!

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I agree, this is a good controversial subject to debate over, but heck will freeze over before Nintendo gets bought out by Microsoft.

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Microsoft buys Nintendo. I can see it now...

Mario Extreme Beach Volleyball

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I've been hoping for a long time that Nintendo would go third party. The only reason I buy a Nintendo system is so I can play the classic Nintendo games, and if I want to be able to play anything else, I have to go buy ANOTHER system.

I think it would be excellent if I could buy Microsoft's next gen system, and be able to play all the great games along with Nintendo's games.

If I do buy a system next generation, I was already leaning towards Microsoft's system. If they are as efficient as they were this generation, than their next system will be the best as well. Xbox may not be selling the best, and may not be the most popular in households, but it is a far superior system. It has a huge hard drive, great online support, and no one can argue that the graphics are the best out there.

In my opinion, Microsoft buying Nintendo would be one of the best things to happen in gaming in a long time.

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There's a problem with your theory. Nintendo going third party (ala sega) would mean that they'd put games on both M$ and Sony's systems. That'd be even worse, because now you have to buy two systems in order to play different Nintendo franchises in case they make some console exclusive!

Now, I don't know about you, but the amount of gaming I get out of the GameCube, even if I want games on other systems, is quite sufficient. I have a large library of Cube games, haven't had a chance to finish lots, and there are still more Cube games that I'd love to own. Nintendo's system is all I need.

And Null, call it blind loyalty or whatever you want, but I probably won't buy a system other than by the big N. I don't want to play Zelda with an Xbox controller. I don't want games pumped out for money rather than enjoyment. I don't want Sony's anti-multiplayer policy (2 controller ports, GREAT plan). Nintendo innovates while others copy... without Nintendo I fear there will be no innovation anymore.

Crash said it best... Nintendo for life.

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I don't see this happening, competition makes the industry stronger.

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I would rather that Nintendo be bought by Microsoft so that I would only have to buy that system, an no other. But how would Nintendo, by making games for Microsoft and Sony, be worse than them being first party and designing games for their own hardware? Either way I would need two systems. As it is currently, I have to have a GCN if I want the Nintendo titles, and another system if I want to enjoy anything else. I don't care what the biggest GCN fanboy says, Nintendo's third party support sucks.

And I would still be saving money, anyway, because I currently own all three current generation consoles. If Nintendo dropped out and started developing only software, that's one less system I would need.

And lets say that Nintendo did become third party and developed games for Microsoft and Sony. Nearly all of their games would be available for both systems (that makes the most money), and if a game is exlusive for one console, it probably wouldn't remain that way forever, a la Resident Evil 4.

And really, what does a different controller matter? I didn't know anyone really LIKED the GCN controller. It's my biggest turn off to the entire system. It just feels wierd. I like using the XBox controller for shooters, and the PS2 controller for everything else. (except maybe driving games)

And it is flawed thinking to say that Nintendo develops games for enjoyment rather than for money. Face it, every company is in it for the money. If Nintendo was just doing it for the fun of things, than why aren't their prices lower than everyone elses?

And Nintendo claims to be the great innovator of the gaming industry...yet they are clearly the most hard headed and stubborn of them all. How can they claim to be innovators when they won't even give up the idea of online gaming not being mainstream? They are the most unwilling to change, yet somehow get landed with being the "most innovative". If you ask me, Xbox Live is innovative. The Eye Toy is innovative. The DS is kind of innovative...but still really gimmicky, and pretty much a rehash of that old two screen game and watch thingy.

But you are right about Sony's two controller port concept. I don't know where they got that idea. But this thread isn't supposed to be about Sony, it's supposed to be about Nintendo and Microsoft coming together, and other than for the sake of tradition, I can't think of a single negative connotation to this idea.

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you never will play a zelda on an xbox controller tho, if it happend you'd be playing a zelda game on whatever controller is out at that time. are you seriously saying that a controller that hasnt been made yet is already not good enough?

the money/enjoyment comment is just stupid. nintendo doesnt put games out only for enjoyment. they put them out to make money on them. I have no idea where people get the idea that nintendo is the saints of the universe and dont care about money, thats complete bs.

you dont want sonys multiplayer, (ala online, bunches of people together) but you want nintendos multiplayer (ala.......well not really much idea of multiplayer at all really) MS is the only 1 of the 3 who got the whole idea right. 4 controllers AND online.

and i've seen as much innovation from nintendo as i have seen from MS and sony lately. which incase you were unable to tell, is none. neither of the 3 have innovated jack. however what they do, is 2 of the 3 give gamers what they want, or at least try. the 3rd gives you things you never wanted and taunts everything it does as INNOVATIVE!

serously tho. innovation comes with time. forcing something innovative doesnt do any good if its time hasnt come. and as far as i can see, (please list some if there are) there has been no real innovation in quite a while. nintendo seems the same as the other 2. if nintendo (or any one of the 3 for that matter) quit today, i think we'd be in the exact same spot 10 years from now than if they never quit.


well. from the sound of most people. its more like, "Nintendo for life! unless any of my money goes to another company in which case nintendo can burn!" its quite the interesting idea tho. ;)

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"Asked what he thought about Nintendo's future, Hawkins replied: "My magic eight ball says they will be acquired by Microsoft within five years."


My magic 8 ball says you can suck it.