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ulala06 02-13-2005 08:14 PM

the grammys...
 
just watched the opening.

they did a really effing good job of incorporating all of those different groups/artists.

wow.


live update by the one, the only ulala06:

live performance uno- Black Eyed Peas, Gwen Stefani & Eve, Los Lonely Boys, Maroon 5, Franz Ferdinand

Lifetime achievement award- Pinetop Perkins
Pop Duo or Group w/ bg vocals- Los Lonely Boys- Heaven
Lifetime achievement award- Art Blakey


live performance dos- Alicia Keys
live performance dos y media- Alicia Keys and Jamie Foxx- Georgia on my mind(Ray Charles)


Male R&B vocal performance- Prince- Call my name
Lifetime achievement award- Jerry Lee Lewis


live performance tres- U2- Sometimes you can't make it on your own

Lifetime achievement award- Led Zeppelin
Best Rock Album- Green Day- American Idiot


Live Performance quatro- Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony- Escapemonos
Live Performance cinco- Lynrd Skynrd and Gretchen Wilson- Free Bird
Elvin Bishop and Keith Urban- Fooled around and fell in love
??? and Tim Mcgraw- Rambling Man
All of the above- Sweet Home Alabama
Live Performance seis- Queen Latifah- Lush Life


Lifetime Achievement award- Morton Gould
Best new artist- maroon 5



live performance siete- Green Day -American Idiot


Best R&B Album- Alicia Keys- The diary of alicia keys
Lifetime Achievement Award- Staple Singers


live performance ocho- kanye west, blind boys of alabama, john legend- i'll take you there, Jesus Walks, I'll Fly Away


Best Rap Album- Kanye West- The College Dropout
Lifetime achievement award- Janis Joplin


live performance nueve-Joss Stone & Melissa Etheridge- Cry Baby/Piece of my heart (Janis Joplin)

Lifetime achievement award- Eddie Arnold

live performance dies- Tim Mcgraw- live like you were dying


Lifetime achievement award- the carter family
Best country album- loretta lynn- vanlear rose
???- Ahmet erteglin


live performance once- john mayer- daugters

Best rock duo/group with vocals- U2-vertigo

live performance doce- TSUNAMI RELIEF FUND- Across the universe(Beatles)
Velvet Revolver, Alicia Keys, Steven Tyler, Bono, Stevie Wonder, Norah Jones, Tim Mcgraw, Alison Kraus, Billie Joe Armstrong, brian wilson


Song of the year- John mayer- daughters
Lifetime achievement award- Jelly Roll lewis


live performance trece- usher and james brown- caught up, sex machine

record of the year- ray charles & norah jones- here we go again
trustees award- don cornelius
person of the year- brian wilson


live performance catorce- ray charles tribute

album of the year- genius loves company- ray charles

KillerGremlin 02-13-2005 08:32 PM

Re: the grammys...
 
Local H should win best rock album of the year.

The Grammys...eh.

The last worthy album nominated was Lateralus.

Null 02-13-2005 08:45 PM

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grammys are a joke.



more like a popularity contest rather then real talent awards.

dropCGCF 02-13-2005 08:46 PM

Re: the grammys...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
grammys are a joke.


I was going to say those exact words as I clicked this thread.

ulala06 02-13-2005 08:52 PM

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*shrug*

i'd love to get one.

RagedHybrid 02-13-2005 09:34 PM

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I laugh at Green Day when they play American idiot becuase they sing about not falling into corporate Aermica and run my the media. Yet they play on MTV and the Grammies. Can anyone say Hyppocrites?

Null 02-13-2005 09:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RagedHybrid
I laugh at Green Day when they play American idiot becuase they sing about not falling into corporate Aermica and run my the media. Yet they play on MTV and the Grammies. Can anyone say Hyppocrites?


can anyone say its just a song, not a sworn oath? seriously, all of a sudden bands have to mean everything they say in songs?

KillerGremlin 02-13-2005 09:49 PM

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Null's right. I laugh at Green Day in general.

Go popteenpunktrendfad wooohooo!!!!!

Null 02-13-2005 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin
Null's right. I laugh at Green Day in general.

Go popteenpunktrendfad wooohooo!!!!!


well ya know, like em or hate em. to be around as long as they have, they're a bit more then just a 'popteenpunktrendfad'

KillerGremlin 02-13-2005 09:56 PM

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Actually, I happen to like Green Day. I was a huge Kerplunk fan, and Insomniac was a helluva CD.

I just find it ironic that they jumped on this whole complain-about-American bandwagon, even if American Idiot is better then just about every other CD that takes blatant stabs at America and Bush and all that other junk.

I have American Idiot, and I listen to it, and I respect it in a sense. On the other hand, I don't take it the same way I take albums like Kerplunk, and I can't stand the new-age Green Day fans.

Fan or not.....but yeah.

ulala06 02-13-2005 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
can anyone say its just a song, not a sworn oath? seriously, all of a sudden bands have to mean everything they say in songs?

there's a franz ferdinand song entitled "michael" that talks about how sexy this guy is... that doesn't mean the members of FF are gay/strictly gay.

jeepnut 02-13-2005 10:02 PM

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All the evidence you need that the Grammy's are a joke is to look at the Metal category. There is absolutely no reason that Shadows Fall should not be nominated.

dropCGCF 02-13-2005 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut
All the evidence you need that the Grammy's are a joke is to look at the Metal category. There is absolutely no reason that Shadows Fall should not be nominated.

Yes there is.

Null 02-13-2005 10:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dropCGCF
Yes there is.


And what reason would that be? :D

KillerGremlin 02-13-2005 10:22 PM

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To Null:

See, American Idiot won best rock album of the year. That's retarded. Now, like I said, American Idiot isn't a bad album, it's pretty good. BUT, I can think of several albums that go before it.

The new Monster Magnet album for one, and then, Local H - Whatever Happened To P.J. Soles.

Of course, I doubt many people here know who Local H is. Oh well.

dropCGCF 02-13-2005 10:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
And what reason would that be? :D

"The Cattiff Choir" should have been nominated instead. Nick Brooks can sing.

Null 02-13-2005 10:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin
Of course, I doubt many people here know who Local H is. Oh well.

wish i didnt.

KillerGremlin 02-13-2005 10:34 PM

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Why? They're the best post-grunge band, minus the Melvins that are borderline everything.

Oh well, music is so opinion based. That's what makes it so fun!

Everyone gets cookies. Except for the eskimo kids.

The Germanator 02-13-2005 10:34 PM

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The Grammys are terrible. As the Simpsons said, "we don't consider the Grammy an award at all."

Null 02-13-2005 10:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin
Why? They're the best post-grunge band, minus the Melvins that are borderline everything.

Oh well, music is so opinion based. That's what makes it so fun!

Everyone gets cookies. Except for the eskimo kids.


dunno. never liked em much, they always seemed like just one of the group, never thier own style to really set them off.

Acebot44 02-14-2005 12:07 AM

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They didn't do the solo to Freebird! :mad:

Stray_Bullet 02-14-2005 12:20 AM

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At least Green Day had the best performance. They've got talent, whether you like their pop-punk image and whether you like that they perform for people or not.

jeepnut 02-14-2005 12:40 AM

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I would much rather see a group like Green Day win than an Ashlee Simpson or other pop idol. At least Green Day has done their time and started off like every other band instead of getting in based on looks and/or connections alone.

Acebot44 02-14-2005 01:04 AM

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I didnt see Green Day's performance, but I really enjoyed Kanye's/John Legend's.

GameMaster 02-14-2005 01:24 AM

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I like seeing all the artists interact together regardless of whether I like their music or not. I recognize most of the music that was played because my sister is always listening to it on the computer. In my opinion, I thought it was kind of arrogant that Prince couldn't show up to receive his award. I guess they don't know in advance but if they're being nominated they should really try to be there unless it's an emergency.

AzeaL 02-14-2005 01:36 AM

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Yeah, you're right about that people should have been notified before so that they could have showed up instead of un-attending the awards show. I didnt like all the country music and soul stuff but the tribute to Ray Charles was cool even though im not that big of a fan of his music.

DimHalo 02-14-2005 10:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut
I would much rather see a group like Green Day win than an Ashlee Simpson or other pop idol. At least Green Day has done their time and started off like every other band instead of getting in based on looks and/or connections alone.


Not that the specific people you are referring to are not guilty of getting in on looks and connections, but you seem to think (in spite of my efforts) that no one has "done their time" unless they are in a rock band. If someone is remotely pop you automatically label them as not deserving. It doesn't seem fair.

PS: The way Ashlee Simpson got it is not deserving, I do believe that.

jeepnut 02-14-2005 11:15 AM

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The music I like is the only music with any validity.

The Germanator 02-14-2005 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut
The music I like is the only music with any validity.

That's the best point of the thread so far. :)

Stray_Bullet 02-14-2005 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut
The music I like is the only music with any validity.

Entertainment is valid enough, no? For whatever reason.

RagedHybrid 02-14-2005 02:09 PM

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To me, the grammies are as political as the oscars so it's not even worth wasting time arguing about it

Null 02-14-2005 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RagedHybrid
To me, the grammies are as political as the oscars so it's not even worth wasting time arguing about it

true none of its worth arguing about. I dont mind the oscars tho, they award good movies majority of the time. that usually cant be said for the grammys tho, its amazing some of the horrible stuff that wins a grammy somtimes. as i said before, just a big popularity contest.

MuGen 02-14-2005 02:25 PM

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I respect Green Day for their talent and their drive, but as soon as they decided to include politics in their songs, I stopped listening to them, and thats just me. So, no rebuttle is required for that statement.

On the other grammy decisions.... joke... J... O...K .. E...

why? Best New Artist should've been SOMETHING CORPORATE. Probably none of you have heard of them, but new artist none the less. Their music is amazing...and definitely better than Maroon 5... and of course... thats IMO.

KillerGremlin 02-14-2005 04:11 PM

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I don't know......I give bands credit where it's due. I'd rather see bands that have more talent and orginality win Grammys, but if you are a band that rips other bands off but play entertaining music, then whatever. Let's not forget that even "rock legends" like Zeppelin "borrowed" their fair shair of riffs.

I like what sounds good......original, contrived, over-produced, or not. I'll give credit where it's due, but I won't not listen to it.

ulala06 02-14-2005 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo
why? Best New Artist should've been SOMETHING CORPORATE. Probably none of you have heard of them, but new artist none the less. Their music is amazing...and definitely better than Maroon 5... and of course... thats IMO.

something corporate aren't new.

no offense or anything. they're a pretty good band, better lyrics than music.


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