And what would you consider to be an intelligent post, Bond? I don't think there have been any in this thread. Because, frankly, there's nothing intelligent about a bunch of video game-loving kids having the same goddamn arguments over and over again. It get's old, folks. And c'mon, Bush creating a cure for cancer!? Just thinking about that makes my brain hurt (Future post from Bond: Yeah, FreakyBob, just trying to do simple addition makes your brain hurt :p). I feel pretty much the same way as DeathsHand. I don't care about politics and I don't feel like getting into stupid debates. So, I guess I should just stop posting in this thread, right.

Well, sorry if i was a little intense, but its a subject close to my heart. I lost 2 friends on 911, and another we couldn't locate until almost a week later. I have spent a lot of time researching why we need to take out Saddam and all other terrorist harboring countries because of my experience with this. The parallels are mind boggling when compared to post World War 1 Germany.

Saddam is a dangerous man, not just to America but his neighboring Arab countries as well. He has already committed genocide against the Kurds... what else does he have to do to be finally dealt with?

In the end it is just my opinion, but it is an opinion I am passionate about and have a lot of information on to support it.

I've read every single post in this Thread. and ONLY Strangler knows what he is talking about.

opinions opinions opinions

i think most of everyone posting here needs to make sure they understand what is opinion and what is rumor and what is fact.

and even the press is not always truthful

this is the last thing i am saying here.
i'm not going to read or post to this topic anymore either
cause it's true, this debate has boiled down to a meaningless nothing
especially when everyone's yelling "my opinions are the TRUTH"

and tommorow all my worries will go away ^-^

bye bye

Angel >>>
 

First off, coming from someone who's added next to nothing to this thread (although nothing really bad either like FreakyBob, so I don't mind), you're quick to judge everyone else.

Second, who the **** are you? I know you didn't sneak in 1000 posts without me seeing. And I have no clue what your old name was (assuming you got it changed).

Oh no, we've driven him to suicide. :eek:

ok ok so maybe i shouldn't have said "most everyone here"
i retract that statement.

but my point is that sometimes some people (in general) need to see the difference between opinion and fact

and that what they here and see and read
is not always true.
or it may be weighted in some way to instill certain emotions.

and i know i'm a little punk ass newbie gettin all up in your faces,
so you all are like "shut up rookie! fork over yer lunch money!" *gives wedgie*

[by the way, i'm DeathsHand's friend... in real life.... and i post here sometimes, generally to the annoyance or apathy of everyone else]

which is why i'm not gonna bother this topic any more

and suicide? no.
quite the opposite
@_@ @_@ @_@

OneWingedAngel's e-mail is Pezking2@hotmail.com... I know I have him in my MSN list, just can't remember who he is... :hmm:

I never said the US caused the holocaust. I just pointed out that it took 4 years of violent war before the States acted. Just to say that you shouldn't keep bragging about how you 'save our asses'.

And Bush will neve find the cure for cancer, because he's spending so much money on his military force. ;)
No really, it's rediculous how much money EVERY COUNTRY spends on warfare. I wish they'd do something about those deceases and food shortage. Make food not bombs.

And if you wonder what Holland did during the second World War, we were invaded by Germany, although we were neutral. A lot of people were killed because they didn't wanna work in German factories to make weapons. A lot died in the 'hunger winter', because we couldn't trade or produce food because of the Nazis. We did our job with underground resistences, like sabotaging trains, stealing food for Jews-under-cover, passing information to the Alliance...

But I don't give a !@#$%^&* about what my country did. I don't care if I lived in France, United States or even Germany.

It's just too bad that you're not allowed to comment on the United States if you don't live there yourself. :unsure:

Once again you show your ignorance. Pearl Harbor happened in 1941. Thst only 1 year after the WWII started. Just because we weren't in Europe doesn't mean we weren't involved in the war. Also, you talk as if we were obligated to step in. The US was under no such obligation to do so. I'm not bragging so much as stating fact. So what would be better, the US hopping over the pond and sacrificing thousands of American lives to help countries that had no impact on those soldiers lives in one of the bloodiest assaults in world history, or the US not helping out at all?



And as soon as every other country does the same, I'm sure the US will hop right on board. Remember, the US doesn't have a long history of starting warfare, just a long on of ending it (except in stupid wars like Vietnam where the powers that be felt that their political position was more valuable than actually winning).

I don't mind you commenting as long as what you say is accurate. Your posts so far have been filled with nothing but ignorance and conjecture as to "what might have happened". You have not rebutted one single fact I have listed or any of the historical parallels I have presented.

I highly recommend that you become educated on subject matter before speaking about it. "It is better the say nothing and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt."

As for drolldurham, you claim that everything said has been opinion. Well then what about all of the fatcs I have posted on this thread. Did you even bother to read them, or did you just decide to ignore them aand post whtever you were going to say anyway? Thats what I thought.

I did NOT start that 'what if...' thing, an American did.

And I know my history, I know it took years before America actually joined the Alliance.

1) You did post a What if... involving the Utopian Nation that would have saved the world if America never existed.

2) Then if you know your history, you also know that America was knee deep in the Japanese and during the time they were not officially a part of the Alliance and we were STILL sending pilots and millions of dollars on supplies and euipment to the Alliance while we were fighting in the Pacific AND even before Pearl Harbor.

Got anything else Professor?

Damn liberals. Bush need to increase his defense budget! War has been, and always will be the only way to solve major conflicts. No explanations for now, no time.

Gekko, add to that the fact the the US loans or grants million of dollars aand thousands of pounds of surplus food around to world to feed third world nations. I already mentioned that, BTW, but Angrist doesn't like to recognize posted facts that contradict is idealistic nonsense.

*cough* NeonNightCloud *cough* :sneaky:

You all have a nice day now.

*applies shades*

:cool:

*flash of light*

So yeah, uhh, the U.S. is tired of of everyone expecting them to act alone in times of other's needs and stuff...

*slips out*

there is one thing with Bush that is pissing me off. Like Angrist said, it's ridiculus how much countries spend on warfare. Bush is spending all of our surplus just on Bin Laden and Terrorism. He thinks terrorism is our only concern right now but we have other problems as well.

It's mind-boggling how much money he is wasting.