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Because he didn't want them to find out about the barn, and the whole situation.


Also Lori, Carl and Sophia's Mom (Can't remember her name) also didn't shoot any walkers. Sophia's mom was behind darrell the whole time, and Lori and carl were hugging on the ground.

My mouth was open the whole time Shane was on his awesome tirade.



My real concern now is if the show actually does the whole Governor thing. I find the story line in the comics to be absolutely silly. Either way doubt it will be until season 3.

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They could have set Sophia loose in the forest, they would have found her that way. Although I guess that would mean she got killed, and Hershel didn't want that.... Hm ok it seems to make sense.

I did feel bad for Hershel, seeing his wife get killed because he showed some people hospitality. I do think that he had the right to do with walkers as he pleased, as long as it was on his own farm.
Funny how Shane was whining about the security, but it still took him a tool and a lot of effort to get it open from the outside.

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They said Otis used to capture the walkers (though I have no idea how it could be a one person job). They never mentioned Sophia until after he already left with Shane.

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That's a bad explanation. Somebody could have had the presence of mind to check the barn for a small girl.

Hershel didn't want to tell them because of the secret of the barn, and he couldn't set her free because he knew they'd kill her. That's the best explanation in my opinion.

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The mid-season break is pretty lame, that's all I gotta say.

Oh, and another good recap by Andy Greenwald on Grantland about his problems with the first half of this season. http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollyw...-the-slaughter

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If I had not read the comics, would I care at all about Sophia? :ohreilly:

I also can agree that Hershel hasn't earned a ton of sympathy. For such a God fearing man, he isn't very empathetic or charitable. But I wouldn't want people camping out on my farm.

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well he said he views the 'walkers' as sick people, and the fact that Rick's group just views them as walking meat clearly disturbs him. In that sense I can understand why his character is sort of off-put by them. In his mind it's as if it's not a new world, but the same world, where only the living have changed.


I'm also not sure how Otis could do it on his own. Maybe he was just really good at it. That's probably not the case, but thee's got to be a chance that for some reason he was really good at rounding up zombies.


Anyways, black out your future-talk, you witches.

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So some people have pointed out that the writers of this show made Otis an extremely gifted person.

1. He was the hunter of the group.

2. He had medical knowledge and was a volunteer EMT.

3. He apparently played a mean guitar.

4. He could wrangle walkers single handed.

Who knows what else he was capable of?

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Haha, that reminds me of Chase from House. He could perform every surgery known to man.

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Hershel didn't want them to know that there were zombies in the barn in the first place.

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Ok, a lot of you people are getting waaaayyyy too "Trekkie" about this show. If you look at anything closely enough, you'll see flaws. Right now the tone and plot of the show seem to be back on track, and let's be happy for that. Leave the minutia to the conventioneers...

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Finally you say something that makes me want to buy you a beer. :lolz:

Fuckin' Trekkies.

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The hiatus was a terrible fucking decision.

By the time this show gets back on the air...there will be TV shows on that actually radiate quality. Justified...Archer....etc. That's on top of all the other shit I'm keeping up with, plus shows I'm catching up on still.

All the Darabont drama I keep reading about isn't helping either.

But in typical Walking Dead fashion (learn nothing, fuck up everything) they plan to have another hiatus next season. The fuck is going on AMC? Are you trying to out-fuck FOX in terms of being the shittiest TV Station ever?

Just don't fuck up Season 5 of Breaking Bad. After Breaking Bad is up I will probably abort AMC.

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I agree that the hiatus is waaaayyyy too long. There is a fine line between building anticipation and having your audience forget about you.

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yeah, I can't wait for Game of Thr-...aw, fuck.

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What about Game of Thrones?

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The other thing that pisses me off about the hiatus is that the new episode has been leaked, and spoilers are everywhere.

Reading about the way AMC manages their shows and station, it is pretty evident that they are run by the morons who got fired from FOX. It's amazing that AMC is home of Breaking Bad and Mad Men.

I'm pretty sure the Walking Dead is pulling in more viewers than both shows, which is ironic. =/ You would think that since The Walking Dead is the station's moneymaker, they would give it first-class treatment. Instead, AMC has slashed the show's budget, and they plan to do another calculated hiatus next year. As bad as AMC is, they haven't even touched FOX.

Let's not forget FOX's accolades:

Cancelling Arrested Development, Family Guy, Futurama, Firefly, Titus

Renewing the Simpsons for Season 21313204832704871240917240812347

That number would be more coherent and accurate if I wasn't frustrated at how shitty the Simpsons have become.

The best thing to emerge from the FOX cesspool in the past few years has been Bob's Burgers. That show is a winner.

FOX can't even get sports right. Troy Aikman and Joe Buck can go fuck themselves for being the worst sports commentators ever. Bleh. Sorry for the tangential rant everyone.

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It's just been soo long.

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LOL! Well at least they finished a full season...

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Can't really blame them, can you? They worked a long time on 1 season, then they needed to find out if it was a success before they could make a next.

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I don't see what the big deal is. The first season was six eps and you had to wait a year to see more. It's not like you already got used to watching 13 eps of this show a year.

Now Mad Men...that's been killing me.

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Yes, but AMC only ordered 6 episodes. They then ordered a full season, but that's really beside the point. Other shows take a mid-season hiatus as well, like Supernatural, but come back much sooner. In the end, I think the term "hiatus" is what bothers me. They should just create a new model of "mini-seasons" and be done with it: 6 episodes fall, winter, spring, with a break in the summer.

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Prof S hit the nail on the head.

The issue is also pacing....if you are going to have a "mini season," then pace the damn show! I don't know if you all forgot, but Season 2 of the Walking Dead wasn't a stellar tour de force from start to finish.

The writing is not aligned with a "mini season." Maybe they can fine tune that with new expectations for the next season.

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Soooooo excited for that premiere.

Also, Joe Buck is atrocious.

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One more day boys. One more day...

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...until we can start bitching about the show again.

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Eh I'm still excited. I'm giving it until the end of the season. If it still lacks I'll drop the show as one of the few shows I watch.

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Well some of us!
Others can enjoy the show without complaining too much. :P

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I'm with you. I think they went a long way in fixing a lot of what went awry in the final few episodes. At the very least the show has always been entertaining (IMO), even if disappointing at times. My main concern over the hiatus was that it would lose momentum/audience and therefore be cancelled due to production costs.

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I swear, Lori is on the top of my need to go list.

Aside from some false drama, the Rick stuff was the best stuff this episode

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That was the Rick I know and love...

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I didn't even know it was on tonight. I lucked out by just happening to be looking at that channel right when it started.

The bar scene was intense as hell.

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Solid episode. Good stuff.

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I actually forgot this show was on. Good thing torrents...bad news AMC. I mean can you blame me? Archer and Justified, yo. The hiatus really threw off the show's groove. We'll see how viewer ratings hold up.

I like the part where Daryl called Lori "Olive Oil."

Next episode: "I'm not helping, fucking spaghetti!"

Okay, so now that we have the negatives out of the way...this was a really good episode. Another step in the right direction. The bar scene at the end was awesome.

I mean, it was a metaphor, right? Kind of like Rick was being put into Hershel's shoes for a few seconds with these new strangers who want to camp out at his place. But of course they are more sinister so he had to pop them (okay, that's cliche, but it's a good cliche). I give this episode a mother fucking A-. The show has finally broke that barrier for me.

They also ended the episode with a Clutch song. How did the guys at AMC know that Clutch is like my favorite band?

Is Rick the "regulator?"

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Clutch also was tied into L4D2....this was brought to attention in the Walking Dead thread on Reddit. I wasn't aware of this commercial:



It's nice to see the hardest working band in the 90's Grunge/Stoner Metal genre getting some props. Clutch has mad talent and they've really evolved over their career. They went from a Punk/Metal sound to a Bluesy Stoner sound, and now they have an organ. It's ridiculous. I've been a fan for a looooonnng time. They even have a beer with New Belgium. Here's their other recent single that is in the L4D2 video (along with lyrics).



This is a band with kick-ass lyrics. To get the "full" Clutch experience, you really need to pay attention to the stories and off-beat humor in the lyrics. That is all folks. Sorry to thread derail, continue with Walking Dead discussion.

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Yay, Rene from True Blood. Kind of wish he lasted longer. This show is starting to seem like it enjoys quickly killing characters I recognize and like from other things.

Bar scene was great. The rest...ok. Some bits were better than others.

Lori needs to die.

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(I've liked Clutch for a long time. I was pumped to hear that song. I was also pumped when my local sports team and/or college used a Clutch chorus every time the home team scores.)




Hell, it's gotta be a good episode if you only had one negative, and the only negative was that he called her a silly insulting name because of her scrawny figure and aptitude for flailing her arms wildly and complaining.



I never thought of it like that. Good point. I totally missed that when I was watching it.

I was into that scene because there were no zombies involved. Like, the people are the threat - the zombie apocalypse is just the setting. The whole time that scene was going on I thought "That John Leguizamo fuck looks like he's going to try start some shit."

I like how every interaction with other humans is always intense, because the humans have thoughts, and plans. The zombies have shit except for numbers, and surprise tactics.

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THIS is what the Walking Dead is about, dude. It's not about the zombies...it's about what extent the humans will go to in order to survive. So far the show has completely missed this, and last night was a total step in the right direction.

I could give a fuck less about Zombie Sophia. I do not give a single shit. The character was not developed, and the first 7 episodes were a meandering cluster fuck of bad dialog and horrible editing. But last night, when Dale confronted Lori about Shane? Holy shit! That was intense. Or Rick going all "I'm gonna protect my clan at any extent." That's the Rick I know...not the whiny soap opera bitch we have had to deal with for the first half of this season. I really hope they keep this up.

In one episode this show hit the nail in the head in terms of what I enjoyed about the comics. If the show continues down this very dark and uneasy path....wowza. I mean, when a show has a good overall story, I don't get bored and I don't nitpick over bad dialog or inconsistencies. I'm sure a show like Breaking Bad has gaps in writing quality...but I was too busy not noticing because the show is so awesome. (I need to stop using that as a comparison though, because I'm pretty sure Breaking Bad is the best drama I've ever watched...so that show is basically the bar).

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Seems like the mid-season break didn't stop its momentum at all.. if anything...

http://ewinsidetv.wordpress.com/2012...atings-return/