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Null 09-17-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by BreakABone
I never claimed they started wireless, they were the first ones to make an official one that actually worked and in many ways replace the original controller.

And you say needed, but who say they were. I mean the D-Pad wasn't need there wasd a way to control characters before hand. The shoulder buttons weren't needed, just add more face buttons, the Genesis one had 5 face buttons. Rumble feedback.. same deal...

The fact is you think they are important now because they have been proven to be important. I say give the new controller a chance to show it is needed and not just some gimmick.


there was others that worked just as well and replaced the original. they just wernt made by the same company, thats the only difference.

i say they were, nintendo themselves said they were. if you can find back where they intereviewed nintendo about the analog stick, they explained how they came to that result, they had made the 3d mario game and said they needed a better way to control him rather then the D pad.

and im sure for shoulder buttons it was needed to find a way to get extra buttons that wouldnt be too complicated, there ya go. these types of innovations came on thier own. they were made when they were needed.

this new controller comes from nitnendos ODD thinking that controllers are getting too complicated, and too many buttons. i dont find anyone complaining that controllers are too complicated, many would like a couple more buttons infact.


this controller would be a blast to try out on certain games, but im sorry, i know for a fact i'd grow tired of it. somtimes i'd want to just lie back on the couch and play, not wave my arm all around. maybe depending on where i am i dont have room to swing it like a bat to hit the baseball.

this remote would be a great idea..... as an accessory, i think nintendos at a stronge dissavantage now by basing thier entire system on it.

Xantar 09-17-2005 04:24 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by Null
this new controller comes from nitnendos ODD thinking that controllers are getting too complicated, and too many buttons.

Or maybe Nintendo wants to have true three dimensional control for the next Mario game. They wouldn't exactly tell us that right now, though.

In any case, I would rather have Nintendo trying new things and have some of them ending up as mere gimmicks than try nothing new at all.

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i dont find anyone complaining that controllers are too complicated, many would like a couple more buttons infact.
Because as everyone knows, the people that Null talks are representative of the entire world.

Seriously. Hand your controller over to someone who hasn't played very many videogames in their life and watch how quickly they lose interest. I remember a few girls at Swarthmore who were actual basketball players. They quickly lost interest in basketball videogames because there was too much, "Wait. Which button is pass?"

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somtimes i'd want to just lie back on the couch and play, not wave my arm all around. maybe depending on where i am i dont have room to swing it like a bat to hit the baseball.
I find it interesting that you know for a fact that you will grow tired of the controller. Meantime, everybody who has actually tried it has had nothing but good things to say about it. One even went so far as to explain that you only need little wrist movements to control the FPS Metroid demo, and the controller is really light to begin with. He didn't find it to be a chore at all. I'm sure somebody must have posted a link to it somewhere (right? Hasn't somebody done that yet?).

I'm not saying I love it and know that I will have a blast playing with it for hours on end. But frankly, I trust first-hand accounts a whole lot more than I trust your unfounded opinion. You should too.

DarrenMcLeod 09-17-2005 05:05 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
Fans are already designing addons they expect to see... pretty nifty:




Crash 09-17-2005 05:26 PM

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damn, you can do a lot with this thing.

Teuthida 09-17-2005 05:54 PM

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I find it odd that the attachment wouldn't make use of any of the buttons on the free-hand controller...what with the repeating buttons and all...two D-pads, two A's. I just hope the button layout won't use that cube's one like IGN's mockup.

Jason1 09-17-2005 06:46 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
Oh my, that gun one looks awsome...although, how would you move? I mean, it would be perfect for a duck-hunt update or something of that sort, but wouldnt work for an actual FPS...

thatmariolover 09-17-2005 07:10 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by Jason1
Oh my, that gun one looks awsome...although, how would you move? I mean, it would be perfect for a duck-hunt update or something of that sort, but wouldnt work for an actual FPS...

Unless the addon provided another port for another addon like a thumbstick.

DarrenMcLeod 09-17-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
For a really good read with Jim Merrick:

http://www.gamesradar.com/news/defau...sectionid=2504

A lot of good stuff discussed.

Null 09-17-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by Xantar
blah blah blah


sorry, didnt mean to insult your mother with what i said. :rolleyes:




when did i say the entire world? i said everyone i know. read more, assume less.

the controllers get handed over to ppl who dont play games at all ALL the time. kids are growing up on playstation and xbox n64/gamecube controllers. they never played before, i dont see them losing interest.


and yes i can know for a fact i'd grow tired of it, as i said, and all the reports are saying, its great fun, and i said it would be great fun to try. will i grow tired of it after a while tho? yes, i dont want to have to use a motion sensor all the time. for some games once and a while it would be fun.

you find it funny how i can express my opinion without trying it? i find it funny how you can throw full backing into it, and feel they can do no wrong without trying it.

Teuthida 09-17-2005 07:46 PM

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I will not be satisfied until I can play games purely with my brainwaves. The freehand is a good deal closer to real immersion; a mere stepping stone towards what games will become. I say to Nintendo: thank you.

Swan 09-17-2005 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Teuthida
I will not be satisfied until I can play games purely with my brainwaves. The freehand is a good deal closer to real immersion; a mere stepping stone towards what games will become. I say to Nintendo: thank you.

Imagine playing a game that is controlled by blinking.

Jonbo298 09-17-2005 08:03 PM

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The classic controller is important for us for our virtual console games. When I'm playing my favourite game - the N64 version of Goldeneye - it's built for that kind of controller.

Could you imagine playing Goldeneye with an N64'esque controller "shell" and having butter smooth framerates and not the lag we all experienced back in the day? That alone is enough for me to download the games :D :D

Xantar 09-17-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by Null

you find it funny how i can express my opinion without trying it? i find it funny how you can throw full backing into it, and feel they can do no wrong without trying it.

I'd reply to this if I had some idea of what in the world you just said. I think you're stretching here. You may as well call it a rest.

Null 09-17-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Nintendo/Revolution Press Conference
 
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Originally Posted by Xantar
I'd reply to this if I had some idea of what in the world you just said. I think you're stretching here. You may as well call it a rest.



haha, you know exactly what im talkin about, because im not the only one whos pointed it out.


but ok. we'll just stop then. ;)

One Winged Angel 09-18-2005 12:58 AM

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I have a feeling this is going to be incredibly successful in Japan.


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