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Bond 04-05-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginkasa (Post 282582)
And... The official Bioware forums are still a cesspool of hate and unhappiness. Of course.

Haha, yeah. People will complain about anything / everything. Most just have too much free time. Especially the guy who filed a complaint against the Better Business Bureau.

Swan 04-05-2012 11:24 PM

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I am curious to see what the extended ending will be but you all realize that because this happened, the amount of nerds bitching about things will shoot through the roof

Bond 04-06-2012 04:10 PM

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Combine 017 04-06-2012 05:17 PM

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Bond 04-06-2012 05:57 PM

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Don't forget the Geth engineer. Long live Legion!

Typhoid 04-06-2012 11:12 PM

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This will become a very, very slippery slope.
Jesus Christ, what have they done...

Combine 017 04-06-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 282627)
This will become a very, very slippery slope.
Jesus Christ, what have they done...

Ya, next we will make Valve make the next Half-Life.
Then we will petition Halo to show the Chiefs face.
And after that, make every game have the same style of multiplayer as call of duty.
Ahahahahahaaa!

BreakABone 04-07-2012 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 282627)
This will become a very, very slippery slope.
Jesus Christ, what have they done...

I don't think its a slippery slope.. I mean no one.. complains about them changing the ending of Fallout 3... or have we seen petitions on this level before...

And don't think there has been a franchise.. as ambitious as ME .

Combine 017 04-07-2012 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 282629)
I don't think its a slippery slope.. I mean no one.. complains about them changing the ending of Fallout 3... or have we seen petitions on this level before...

And don't think there has been a franchise.. as ambitious as ME .

They changed the ending of Fallout 3? I thought they just added to it with dlc.

Ginkasa 04-10-2012 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Combine 017 (Post 282630)
They changed the ending of Fallout 3? I thought they just added to it with dlc.


Originally your character died at the end of the game which meant you couldn't explore the Wasteland or complete any additional missions afterward. It could also be a bit of a plot hole. Your character died of radiation poisoning because you had to walk into some radiation to do something (I forget). You would be forced to do this even if you had a Super Mutant companion who could totally do the thing handle the radiation without dying standing right next to you.

Eventually it was changed so you miraculously survived or something (its possible you could also choose to have that Super Mutant companion do it; I can't remember). This change was tacked on to a piece of DLC that also added a bunch of stuff, so...

Swan 04-12-2012 08:49 PM

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The Better Business Bureau has gotten involved....or at least just talked about it

http://www.gamespot.com/news/mass-ef...ys-bbb-6371157

Typhoid 04-13-2012 03:20 PM

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Rant rant rant.
Bitch please.
This makes me want to contact the BBB on all of those shitty movies I saw that advertised as "The best movie of the year/summer/spring/winter/fall/action movie/comedy/buddy cop movie". Or all of those crossword/Sudoku books that advertise "hours of entertainment", first of all - it didn't take me hours, secondly I would hardly call it entertainment.

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first line she examined was a promise that Mass Effect 3 players will be able to "experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any other, where the decisions you make completely shape your experience and outcome."

uhhh...so I guess they're completely invalidating the first two games as part of "the beginning, middle, and end" of a story, and are simply referring to Mass Effect 3 as all of those - as if you hadn't previously played two games of choices prior to this, which do indeed change this game. Do they drastically alter the game? No. But you definitely get to experience a different outcome every time, so long as you play it differently each time.
Because last time I checked, they said you could "EXPERIENCE the beginning, middle, and end of a story in ME3" not "ALTER the beginning middle, and end of a story in ME3".
I don't know about you, or the cunts complaining to the BBB about it - but when I played this game I sure as shit saw my first 2 games' of choices unfold. Promise 100% met.

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Of the line, Stephens says BioWare did not deliver players the ability to fully craft their own unique experience. "There is no indecision in that statement. It is an absolute," she said.
Bitch, please.
Mass Effect 3 is not a standalone game, or story. Just as the context of only seeing Star Wars Episode 5 has no merit without seeing any other fucking movie.
And how do you expect millions of different people to all have a 'unique experience' when playing the same game? Riddle me that, you fucking anal-reamer. If anything the fact that people were not satisfied at the end of the game is a unique experience for these people, because not everything ended how they expected, nor wanted.


All of the sand that everyone [seriously taking action towards something] has been pounding over this game is seriously pissing me off - because they're succeeding at complaining enough to change a game. The consumer/viewer is telling the artist that the art is wrong. Does that only seem retarded to me?


This is just so fucking childish.
It pisses me off that young people these days just complain and complain until they get their way. Screw someone elses work, screw art. Let's find some other cunts online who hate something as much as I do, and bitch and moan about it until we can slowly pick apart and demolish the way the video gaming industry works.

Ginkasa 04-13-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 282692)
It pisses me off that young people these days just complain and complain until they get their way.



I think this means we're getting old :lol:

But seriously, I agree. Its not so much that I think they're wrong in regards to the game didn't meet the expectations or the hype. I just don't think it deserves near as much attention or energy as its been given. The fact there is/was a "movement" regarding the ending of a video game is just ridiculous.

Bond 04-13-2012 04:02 PM

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That blog from the BBB is clearly maintained for the sole purpose of generating positive PR for that organization.

The marketing jargon that was used by Bioware to promote ME3, and similar wording that Typhoid cited, is all puffery as defined by the FTC ("term frequently used to denote the exaggerations reasonably to be expected of a seller as to the degree of quality of his product, the truth or falsity of which cannot be precisely determined").

This is ridiculous.

Angrist 04-13-2012 04:13 PM

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I don't know where I stand on the topic.

On one hand: yeah it's pretty weird that a game developer has to change his game because the fans didn't like it.

On the other hand: a) It apparently works, the developer has to think about his image, and b) the fans know the developer is capable of doing much better and they suggest they use their potential.

Instead of comparing it to art, compare it to a car that you drive and you know a way to improve it. Or a comic you read and you have a great idea for a volume.

Or what about all those directors that come up with multiple endings to their movies? Think of The Butterfly Effect. There's the "director's cut" ending which not too many appreciated. Then there's the alternative one which the director made the standard ending in European cinemas: people felt better about that ending and the director gave in. It's good business for him.
The director's cut can still be found for people who prefer it.


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