Originally Posted by thatmariolover (Post 276873)

Well, historically I would agree. With each passing generation Nintendo has crippled the system in some fashion that makes 3rd party devs jump ship. With the N64 it was expensive cartridges and complex programming requirements. With the Gamecube it was 1.5 GB discs, lack of storage, Friend codes, and a purple case. The Wii didn't go HD and never had a high quality, dedicated core controller.

I can't say it will be different this time. But the bottom line is that Nintendo has addressed most of the key problem areas. Friend Codes are going away for a new Online service more in line with Live. The graphics are HD, though we have yet to see specs. Supposedly it's heavy on the RAM, which is something devs will love.

My biggest concern at this point is the lack of a core dedicated controller. I'm looking for something wireless, in between the Gamecube and classic controller.

Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 276875)

Why would you want another controller? You're afraid the U Pad will be too heavy or something?

Originally Posted by thatmariolover (Post 276877)

I just think it's cumbersome. Even though it will probably be fine for a lot of games, I just don't see myself wanting to use it all of the time.

The other issue is that we don't know how many of the tablet controllers can be simultaneously connected to the WiiU. I'm not willing to put up with dongling a classic controller to a Wiimote every time I want to play a multiplayer game. And that will be your only choice, since you don't even have the option of using a Gamecube controller.

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 276879)

If you can only use one at once, I imagine the "standard" controller will be one you can purchase that is the same except without the screen in the middle.

Developers will need to develop around the Wii U controller's layout because that's what comes with the system.

Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 276881)

That said, it seems currently Nintendo is positioning this as a one Wii U tab, 4 Wii-Mote controller set-up. Which has potential, but really I think 4 Wii Us has to be done at some point.

Originally Posted by thatmariolover (Post 276873)

Well, historically I would agree. With each passing generation Nintendo has crippled the system in some fashion that makes 3rd party devs jump ship. With the N64 it was expensive cartridges and complex programming requirements. With the Gamecube it was 1.5 GB discs, lack of storage, Friend codes, and a purple case. The Wii didn't go HD and never had a high quality, dedicated core controller.

Originally Posted by gekko (Post 276892)

There's a lot more to consider than the consumer side. Developer tools, costs, developer support, etc. CodeWarrior alone is reason enough to not want to develop for Wii. On the opposite side, Microsoft's developer support and tools for Xbox are simply fantastic.

Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 276852)

So apparently developers are saying the Wii U is 50% stronger than PS360.

Your thoughts?

Originally Posted by Blix (Post 276906)

I almost forgot to reply to this. The question wasn't directed at me but...

My thoughts on this is that games are still going to be developed for the lowest common denominator and then ported to the other ones. Take for example Skyrim, it was developed on consoles and then ported to PC. If it was created for PCs and then ported to consoles the PC version would be so much better. But developers want to make sure that they give everyone the same thing. I suppose some developers will make their games for the PS3 first (since it's the hardest console to work with) and then port it to everywhere else. So the games wil look and run better on the Wii U but not by much.