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Crono 09-23-2004 11:56 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Nitram
Am I the only one here that thinks that those quotes are terribly wrong and offensive?


Though I was raised as Catholic, that has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read at these forums. And would no doubt be offense to A LOT of people. Now whether or not he was serious, I don't know, and don't care.

Good job, GameMaster!

thatmariolover 09-24-2004 12:03 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Joeiss
If you are a non-believer, you will not go to heaven. If you believe in God, you will.

If you are a non believer, you still did a great thing, but it is meaningless. Christians live their lives to go to heaven for eternity. I am not sure if you understand that. So everything that we do should be done for our faith.

Okay, so if I go out on a killing spree and murder 1,000 people I’m gonna go to Heaven as long as I believe in God?

Sounds like you can justify what happened on 9/11 just because the people who did it believe in their God. Or maybe not, since they don’t believe in your Christian God? So then, anybody who isn’t Christian is going to Hell right?

So what about the millions of people that grow up in small countries that are never even introduced to Christianity? Just because they weren’t taught about your Christian beliefs they’re gonna go to Hell? You believe that any loving God would condemn so many people for an ignorance they didn’t choose to have? I mean... Wow... :rolleyes:

Why should somebody be judged by what they believe? That’s not important. Who you are, what you feel, and why you live your life the way you live it – somehow those things seem a little bit more important. But maybe that’s just me.

I just can’t believe how intolerant some Christians are. It just disgusts me to be one sometimes...

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Originally Posted by GameMaster
The Bible is no ordinary book my comrade, it is a book of God. Whether the Bible you read from is from a hotel or from a museum, it is better than all other books of this world. And that is not an opinion, it is pure fact and truth.

It was written by men in the name of God. Just because I take a crap and say God told me to do it doesn't mean he did. I believe what God shows me. I don't have to believe everything that was written in a book by a bunch of people thousands of years ago. I believe some of the things in the Bible. I'm a Christian, I believe in Jesus. But that has nothing to do with me being a good person.

jeepnut 09-24-2004 01:04 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
I would like to remind everyone that this is Gamemaster making these statements. Let's think about that for a second. Is it even possible for him to be serious when talking about something other than video games?

Canyarion 09-24-2004 04:32 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by The Germanator
I don't personally have anything against them...It's just that I don't understand why they have to keep coming back. We live in the country, in the middle of nowhere. They have to drive out to see us...it just seems like a lot of effort for a cause that if it doesn't work the first time you come to someone's house, it probably will not work the second time.

Anyway, I think the reason they keep returning is because my Step-dad is always real nice to them. If he isn't home I usually just pretend I'm not there either so I don't have to interact with them and feel awkward...

Canyarion, you've never come to my door, so you're not damned. :D

Well first of all, if you pretend to not be at home, yes, they will come back next week.
We keep track of who was home and who wasn't, so you better just open up. :D

And there are plenty of cases where people were always agressive towards us, but after a while something happens and they're suddenly interested and became our brother or sister.
Coming back helps, really. :)

And perhaps I don't come at your door, but I come at others, so........ :unsure:

Think about it, if we do so much effort to tell people, it must be very important. :)

Typhoid 09-24-2004 04:59 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Canyarion
And there are plenty of cases where people were always agressive towards us, but after a while something happens and they're suddenly interested and became our brother or sister.
Coming back helps, really. :)



Whenever Jehovas or whoever it maybe come to our door, we let them in, then My dad and me try and convert them to Atheism. Its quite humerous, really.

Canyarion 09-24-2004 06:14 AM

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Ghehe that's actually not bad. But they'll realise soon enough that there's no point in discussing with SOME people...
Edit: I think it's réaly hard to convince a Jehova's Witness that there is no God. :D We kinda... know better.. :sneaky:

dropCGCF 09-24-2004 12:06 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Canyarion
Ghehe that's actually not bad. But they'll realise soon enough that there's no point in discussing with SOME people...
Edit: I think it's réaly hard to convince a Jehova's Witness that there is no God. :D We kinda... know better.. :sneaky:

I don't like Jehovah's witnesses in general. They come to my house, trying to convert me. I say that I'm a Muslim extremist and that I either have to convert them or kill them. Hilarity ensues.
I don't force my beliefs on them, do I? Why should they force theirs on mine? I don't think it says anywhere in your doctrine that you're supposed to annoy people.
I say that the man who does good out of love for his fellow man is more rightgeous than the one who does it because his god tells him to. Any slack-jawed yokel can say a few psalms and praise God fo the wonders of what he can't explain. It takes a wise man to try and figure out the answers.

mickydaniels 09-24-2004 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dropCGCF
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I don't force my beliefs on them, do I? Why should they force theirs on mine? I don't think it says anywhere in your doctrine that you're supposed to annoy people.

But if you feel that your religion is right and true and it is foretold that massive calamity is going to befall your neighbors, and they don't know about it, don't you have a responsibilty to let them know in advance, so that they could at least prepare? Just like with the hurricanes, for example. Let's say you lived in Florida and had a neighbor that never comes outside, and has no TV or radio. Meanwhile one of these hurricanes is coming and will hit your neighborhood. Isn't it your duty to let him know about what's going on, so he could make a decision on what to do? And if something bad happened because of that storm, aren't you going to feel guilty knowing that you could have at least warned him?


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Originally Posted by dropCGCF
I say that the man who does good out of love for his fellow man is more rightgeous than the one who does it because his god tells him to.

I don't think so. You know why? Because God can tell you to do something, but you don't necessarily have to do it; you can turn the other way and refuse. He has never operated under the motto of "Do what I say, or else", otherwise, you'd be struck dead the first time you commit a serious sin. And also, you have a foundation on why you do the things you do. If you do good out of love for your fellow man, you're functioning under feelings, and everyone knows feelings are subject to change. God is not.


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Originally Posted by dropCGCF
Any slack-jawed yokel can say a few psalms and praise God fo the wonders of what he can't explain. It takes a wise man to try and figure out the answers.


Figure out the answers to what?

dropCGCF 09-24-2004 01:58 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by mickydaniels
But if you feel that your religion is right and true and it is foretold that massive calamity is going to befall your neighbors, and they don't know about it, don't you have a responsibilty to let them know in advance, so that they could at least prepare? Just like with the hurricanes, for example. Let's say you lived in Florida and had a neighbor that never comes outside, and has no TV or radio. Meanwhile one of these hurricanes is coming and will hit your neighborhood. Isn't it your duty to let him know about what's going on, so he could make a decision on what to do? And if something bad happened because of that storm, aren't you going to feel guilty knowing that you could have at least warned him?

It's commonly accepted fact that the hurricane is coming, right? Well, for one, right now, i want to warn you that the unicorns are going to return.

Scoffing, are you? You're defending the same thing. No one man can prove definitively that god exists. He can just prove things wrong on why he can't exist. Prove to me that unicorns aren't coming back, or even that they never existed. Guess what? You can't. What's the use in warning people about a hurricane if you can't prove there's one there?


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I don't think so. You know why? Because God can tell you to do something, but you don't necessarily have to do it; you can turn the other way and refuse. He has never operated under the motto of "Do what I say, or else", otherwise, you'd be struck dead the first time you commit a serious sin. And also, you have a foundation on why you do the things you do. If you do good out of love for your fellow man, you're functioning under feelings, and everyone knows feelings are subject to change. God is not.
Sure, God can't tell you what to do. HE'll love you anyways no matter what you do, right? Then what's the point of preaching his goodness? He'll love me no matter what I do, right? So leave me the hell alone.
You're contradicting yourself, saying that I need to be warned of "massive calamity" when it doesn't matter whether it happens or not because I'll be saved anyways.


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Figure out the answers to what?
Life's riddles. It's easier for a man to explain the mysteries of the universe in terms of god, but it's a lot more taxing to actually try and solve those mysteries.

TheSlyMoogle 09-24-2004 02:43 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
A few centuries ago it was widely accepted that there were many Gods who ruled in a counsel.

A few centuries ago people believed the earth is flat.

A few centuries ago people believed the earth was the center of the universe.

A few centuries ago the people believed that the Roman Catholics weren't lying to them.

A few years ago the people believed Child Molestation didn't happen in the catholic church system.

A Few centuries from now, won't it be amazing to see that things we don't believe in anymore?

thatmariolover 09-24-2004 02:58 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle
A Few centuries from now, won't it be amazing to see that things we don't believe in anymore?

And on the flipside, the things that we do.

Joeiss 09-24-2004 03:08 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
2000 years ago Christianity started, and it is still going strong. I believe in 2000 years there will still be Christianity.

Typhoid 09-24-2004 03:22 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle
A Few centuries from now, won't it be amazing to see that things we don't believe in anymore?


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Originally Posted by Joeiss
2000 years ago Christianity started, and it is still going strong. I believe in 2000 years there will still be Christianity.


I like how you just assume hes talking about only Christianity.

What if hes not even talking about religion at all?







(I know he is, im just sayin is all..)

Kitana85 09-24-2004 03:59 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle
A few centuries ago it was widely accepted that there were many Gods who ruled in a counsel.

A few centuries ago people believed the earth is flat.

A few centuries ago people believed the earth was the center of the universe.

A few centuries ago the people believed that the Roman Catholics weren't lying to them.

A few years ago the people believed Child Molestation didn't happen in the catholic church system.

A Few centuries from now, won't it be amazing to see that things we don't believe in anymore?

And yet, for all that, they always believed in something... whether it be one God, or many, since the times of the Neaderthals, we have always had a belief in the "something more."

I'm not sure if it will be amazing what we don't believe in, so much as what our present beliefs will have morphed into

Joeiss 09-24-2004 04:12 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Typhoid
I like how you just assume hes talking about only Christianity.

What if hes not even talking about religion at all?







(I know he is, im just sayin is all..)

If you know he is, then why even comment? Like really, this whole thread has been about Christianity.

Typhoid 09-24-2004 04:28 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
I will Quote Hoobastank. (Whose lyrics of this song I love, read the lyrics, and think about them, then argue with one another.)

-----------------Same Direction-------------
"Whenever i step outside, somebody claims to see the light
It seems to me that all of us have lost our patience.
'cause everyone thinks they're right,
And nobody thinks that there just might
Be more than one way to our final destination

But i'm not ever going to know if i'm right or wrong
'cause we're all going in the same direction
And i'm not sure which way to go because all along
We've been going in the same direction

I'm tired of playing games, of looking for someone else to blame
For all the holes in answers that are clearly showing
For something to fill the space, was all of the time i spent a waste
'cause so many choices point the same way i was going.....

But i'm not ever going to know if i'm right or wrong
'cause we're all going in the same direction
And i'm not sure which way to go because all along
We've been going in the same direction

So why does there only have to be one correct philosophy?
I don't want to go and follow you just to end up like one of them
And why are you always telling me what you want me to believe?
I'd like to think that i can go my own way and meet you in the end.

But i'm not ever going to know if i'm right or wrong
'cause we're all going in the same direction
And i'm not sure which way to go because all along
We've been going in the same direction"

mickydaniels 09-25-2004 10:53 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by dropCGCF



Sure, God can't tell you what to do. HE'll love you anyways no matter what you do, right? Then what's the point of preaching his goodness? He'll love me no matter what I do, right? So leave me the hell alone.
You're contradicting yourself, saying that I need to be warned of "massive calamity" when it doesn't matter whether it happens or not because I'll be saved anyways.
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He'll love you no matter what? Where the hell did you get that from? You won't get saved anyway, because mercy does not last forever. It gives you a chance to come to the proper path, and if you ignore it, then you are destroyed. You are given a warning and a chance for an out when you are being preached to. You choose to reject knowing the consequences, and the calamity befalls you. Like I said, you can either choose to listen or not listen. That's what I meant by you are not forced to do anything.

dropCGCF 09-25-2004 06:25 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by mickydaniels
He'll love you no matter what? Where the hell did you get that from? You won't get saved anyway, because mercy does not last forever. It gives you a chance to come to the proper path, and if you ignore it, then you are destroyed. You are given a warning and a chance for an out when you are being preached to. You choose to reject knowing the consequences, and the calamity befalls you. Like I said, you can either choose to listen or not listen. That's what I meant by you are not forced to do anything.

So what about the priest who tried to brainwash me with lies? Was he directing me to the proper path?

Also, you still haven't proved to me that you know there is a proper path. And some people never get a chance to listen to whatever you're preaching. What happens to them? You need to think about this from a logical perspective. I think God would be pretty screwed up if he judged me on if I believe in him or not. Some atheists I know are the nicest people in the world. Some Catholics I know are the worst people in the world who get their weekly dose of God and go out and sin again. You're telling me those atheists are going to hell? That's screwed up. If that's the way it is, I'd rather go to hell.

Bond 09-25-2004 07:40 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
There is not one proper path. There are many ways to the proper place.

Xantar 09-25-2004 09:03 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Here's something I've figured out after thinking about it for a while recently: all religions are saying the same thing. They're all headed to the same place if you think about them.

Consider the teachings of Buddhism. It teaches (broadly speaking) that people suffer in life and that the only way to escape that suffering is to shed your earthly attachments. This has a number of meanings. The most obvious is that physical objects, money and rich food aren't worth much. Buddha realized that the pursuit of material goods is futile because no matter how much we horde, we will still be unhappy. Getting that new car might make you feel great for a day or two, but it won't take too long before you get used to it and then start wanting that latest, even more expensive new car.

But there's more to it than that. If you simply sold all your possessions, you still would be miserable. What you have to do is believe, truly believe, that none of it matters. And that's hard. The vast majority of us will fail at that. You try looking at a gold statue and rock statue and believing that they're really all the same. What you have to realize is that you only place value in the one over the other because you've been taught to believe that it is more valuable. But if you had been raised all your life believing that gold is useless and aluminum is to be coveted, who is to say that's not an equally valid view of the world? It's all just a trick your mind plays on you.

And isn't that the same thing as what Judaism, Christianity and Islam teach? In their own way, they are all saying that these earthly possessions around us mean nothing. It's the afterlife that counts (in Buddhism, it's the reincarnation). But here's the thing: many Christians, just like many Buddhists, can't fully grasp the implications of their religion. You probably know someone who goes to church and repeats all the phrases but still experiences moments of doubt and unhappiness. It's part of the same problem. They are still too attached to the world. They don't grasp the bigger picture.

We all know in our heart of hearts whether we are spiritually fulfilled or not. If you are and you look deep within yourself, you might realize that it has very little to do with the fact that you refer to God under one name and not another. Rather, it's because you've absorbed the teachings of His religion, whichever it is, about how to live your life and how to see the world.

Why argue about believing in one God or another? His existence can't be proven or disproven by His very nature, so arguments (or wars) on the matter are pointless. It's just going to make you sad, frustrated or dead. And why should following your religion cause you anguish? It doesn't make sense.

So if you're satisfied with your beliefs after thinking about them closely, then so be it. I'm happy for you. But if you really are so confident in your beliefs, you will also have realized that you have no need to convince anybody else to see it your way.

Kitana85 09-25-2004 09:11 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Xanny, I couldn't disagree with you more!! The basis of certain religions, strict forms of Christianity for example (the easiest example) is that one has to take Christ as their savior. If this is not, the person will suffer for eternity. One would not want others to suffer, so they must show others that this path is true... they are told it is their duty to do so...

Classic Rocker 09-25-2004 10:05 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Here is my .02 cents.

Just think rationally about your beliefs. The bible has a lot of good information in it. The 10 commandments bring content to society. Jesus spread his interesting philosophy on treating people and living life. The bible represents mankind. Read it with another persepective. Just because two people are of the same faith, does not mean they act and behave the same way. Some focus more on one part of there faith then the other.

Thats all I'm gonna type for now. If anyone is interested, I'll post more later.

Xantar 09-25-2004 10:25 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Kitana85
Xanny, I couldn't disagree with you more!! The basis of certain religions, strict forms of Christianity for example (the easiest example) is that one has to take Christ as their savior. If this is not, the person will suffer for eternity. One would not want others to suffer, so they must show others that this path is true... they are told it is their duty to do so...

There's a difference between religion and Religion. One is the actual teachings according to sacred texts, stories and other such things passed from generation to generation. The other is the human interpretation of what it means. Christianity is simply any religion that derives its teachings from the New Testament and some other works. What differentiates the Evangelists from the Lutherans from the Baptists from the Episcopalians is what humans choose to emphasize about those teachings. But it's not as if they use a different Bible.

I was talking about the first. And the point I was trying to make was that human interpretation has been proven (sometimes tragically) to be fallible. Even when it comes to God. Why do some Christians believe it is their duty to convert everyone while others believe the truly Christian thing to do is to tolerate everybody? Different viewpoints shaped by different upbringings. That's all.

It doesn't change the fact that Christianity, at its core, is about living the good life regardless of your material surroundings.

GameMaster 09-26-2004 12:49 AM

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Just wanted to post that, please carry on where Xantar left off.

Classic Rocker 09-26-2004 12:21 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Anyone know what religion follows the philosophy "rock and roll all night, and party every day"? :D

Typhoid 09-26-2004 04:17 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Classic Rocker
Anyone know what religion follows the philosophy "rock and roll all night, and party every day"? :D



Kissism?

Kisstianity?

Kissaiism?

Kissolocism?

dropCGCF 09-26-2004 10:25 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Xantar
It doesn't change the fact that Christianity, at its core, is about living the good life regardless of your material surroundings.

Agreed.

All religion is that at it's core. Exrtreme fundamentalists just take the tachings way too far because they're taking things all too literally.

Kitana85 09-27-2004 07:57 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Xantar
There's a difference between religion and Religion. One is the actual teachings according to sacred texts, stories and other such things passed from generation to generation. The other is the human interpretation of what it means.

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Originally Posted by Xantar
So if you're satisfied with your beliefs after thinking about them closely, then so be it. I'm happy for you. But if you really are so confident in your beliefs, you will also have realized that you have no need to convince anybody else to see it your way.

You totally missed the point of my post, or of yours. You are saying that people shouldn't try to convert others, and what I'm saying is that those who do DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. We may disagree and believe they do have a choice, however, they KNOW with all their heart, and all their soul, and all their mind, and all their strength, that they must HELP other people. It isn't always an issue of being confident-- this might be hard for what I'm assuming is an antheist Buddist-- to understand, but this is their duty-- its not an issue of Religion vs religion.

Your definition of Christianity also leaves me baffled. Christianity is (according to a few dictionaries I checked):"a religion based on the Life and Teachings of Jesus Christ."
By asserting that it is Jesus CHRIST, it implies to to belong you assume Jesus is Christ, or he would not be called as such. Assuming now, that the belief holds that Jesus is Messiah, thus, he frees all from sin, and his own comments that "all who believe in me shall have eternal life," as well as many others that I could quote Chapter and verse, there is a theme of the necessity of taking Christ as ones personal savior.

HOWEVER, as you pointed out, many, including, many RC's, Episcopalians (me), E. Lutherans, etc, are more tolerant, however, they (we), will most often admit that thought that is what the scripture says, we basically aren't listening to that part. Take that as you will.
Christianity teaches, at its core, that Christ Jesus is THE way, THE truth, and The life (I can quote c:v if you like). Though many of us in these groups believe in many paths to the one end, that is personal preference NOT religious teaching.

What I'm basically saying is that its not an issue of what's been passed down, or what was originally there, its what one has to do to achieve the ultimate closeness with God (and ridding others of being farther away). What various people believe are different, but some of them believe converting others is both necessesary, and the ultimate compassion.

Professor S 09-27-2004 05:57 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by Kitana85
[color=DeepSkyBlue]You totally missed the point of my post, or of yours. You are saying that people shouldn't try to convert others, and what I'm saying is that those who do DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. We may disagree and believe they do have a choice, however, they KNOW with all their heart, and all their soul, and all their mind, and all their strength, that they must HELP other people. It isn't always an issue of being confident-- this might be hard for what I'm assuming is an antheist Buddist-- to understand, but this is their duty-- its not an issue of Religion vs religion.

How very theocentric of you.

Xantar 09-27-2004 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitana85
HOWEVER, as you pointed out, many, including, many RC's, Episcopalians (me), E. Lutherans, etc, are more tolerant, however, they (we), will most often admit that thought that is what the scripture says, we basically aren't listening to that part.

This is the point I'm trying to make. Some Christian denominations do not feel that same strong duty to convert unbelievers. As you say, they are essentially ignoring scripture in order to do this. Well, why is that? Are they bad Christians? Are they going to hell? I think some of them would say that The Bible was written by humans and is thus not a perfect work to be strictly adhered to. You can agree or disagree with them. The point is, it's their interpretation. And they can support their position as intelligently as anyone.

Other denominations believe it is their duty to convert unbelievers, as you said. And that's because, I suppose, they take the Bible as the literal word of God and infallible, meaning that every single verse must be adhered to.

The differences between these groups, as you said, is how they interpret the Bible. And yes, you can't really construe the Bible as saying, "Don't go forth and spread my word." But you can question whether that's really so important and worth paying attention to.

Here's the thing, though: all Christian denominations accept (at least in theory) material wealth has nothing to do with the strength of our moral character or whether we are living the good life. Ask any devout Christian about that and they will all give the same answer. And on that point, they also agree with Muslims. And Jews. And Buddhists.

I submit to you that this is no coincidence. And if the idea is so universal, maybe it's worth paying some close attention to. And maybe that's the really important message of religion. Any of them.

The Duggler 09-28-2004 02:57 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
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Originally Posted by GameMaster


Just wanted to post that, please carry on where Xantar left off.

I don't understand you.

GameMaster 09-28-2004 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitram
I don't understand you.

Why focus on my picture when there's a wealth of good conversation and debate going on right now within this thread? I've seen what you got, now go get them, friend! :)

Canyarion 09-28-2004 05:23 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
BTW: welcome 'back' Xanny. ;)

So they let you out of your lab????

Something I want to say about this matter:
People that think that every religion is good enough, back it up by saying opinions.
We say that there's only 1 religion and we back it up by what the bible says....

Problem is, that first group can easily dismiss our arguments by saying you shouldn't trust the bible that well... :(

Dark Samurai 09-28-2004 10:15 AM

Re: What religion are you?
 
Im Christian Catholic... for those that still want to know...

..continue...

DimHalo 09-28-2004 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Samurai
Im Christian Catholic... for those that still want to know...

..continue...


What other kind of Catholic is there?

Classic Rocker 09-28-2004 03:15 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
I'm Jewish Catholic..oh and I have one friend who is Muslim Catholic..

Ace195 09-28-2004 04:00 PM

Re: What religion are you?
 
I'm not sure if I said already but I'm lutheran, I usted to attend a church called faith lutheran Until I stopped beileving in organized religion one day when politics were talked about in a surmon.. Politics have no place in a house of god :(

DimHalo 09-28-2004 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Rocker
I'm Jewish Catholic..oh and I have one friend who is Muslim Catholic..


This is me showing my lack of knowledge. But I've never heard of those. Could you explain please?

Kitana85 09-28-2004 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ace195
I'm not sure if I said already but I'm lutheran, I usted to attend a church called faith lutheran Until I stopped beileving in organized religion one day when politics were talked about in a surmon.. Politics have no place in a house of god :(

right... only, when you pay attention to the scriptures, Jesus was killed for political reasons, in his discourses with Pharasees, etc, their religion vs. his never came into play... HOW you vote, DIRECTLY correlates with the religious (read moral) implications of what you experience. The paster shouldn't tell you how to vote, or believe on an issue, but politics must come up sometimes, or often a sermon is not as well preached as it should (the words of a preacher are supposed to come after hours of prayer)

Canyarion 09-28-2004 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepnut's slave
This is me showing my lack of knowledge. But I've never heard of those. Could you explain please?

.... I kinda think he's just kidding. :p

And Ace, you're right, religion shouldn't interfere with politics. Jesus didn't do that, he even refused when they wanted to make him king.
of course I want to tell you that Jehovah's Witnesses are politicly neutral...


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