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The Germanator 06-26-2008 01:51 AM

Re: Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission
 
This game of Mafia is brilliant! As of today I was positive the crazies were going to vote me off, but I have been redeemed by many pages of interesting reasoning. Thank you. You made the right choice.

Sincerely,

Captain Germanator.

Angrist 06-26-2008 03:46 AM

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Ok, here's everybody's post count in this thread:

Fyacin 22
jeepnut 22
Vampyr 16
Typhoid 15
Dyne 10
manasecret 10
flunkie44 9
Angrist 9
Swan 8
Dylflon 6
The Germanator 5
uber_paddler 5
Combine 017 5
Yoda9864 4
Bube 4
thatmariolover 3
Teuthida 3
GameMaster 2
Professor S 2
Aladuf 2

Maybe the madmen are trying a different strategy this round, by being very active (I think that's what happened in the first game, The Thing). But still, if you're suspicious, it's scary to come out of your shell.
We'll see. :) I'm really wondering how this will work out.

Combine 017 06-26-2008 04:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 231038)
This is what Vampyr wants. It is what he does.


He manipulates you. He controls you while making it seems like you have a choice. Fight back my friends

He didnt control me. I made my post against you before I even looked back at other peoples comments. You attacked me with a quote from somebody else, dont think that retracting your vote from me will save you from your own incompetence. The fact is that you've incurred the wrath of the Combine Overwatch. The best you can do now is hope for death.

Bube 06-26-2008 05:50 AM

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I think Vampyr's lying. I hope to have more on this subject before the deadline.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 06:34 AM

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If everyone agrees that the innocent people are usually the most active, then why the deuce is everyone piling on me for? I hope to not be voted out this round, as I'm enjoying the game and it gives me something fun to do at work, but if I am at least I can come back in the end and be like "haha, told you so."

Really, you think "Vampyr's lying". Lying about what?! I haven't said anything to be lying about! All you saw was Tyhpoid saying I was being manipulative, and then went with that. All I did was put forth a plan, "Pick a random person to vote for, and see if it gets a reaction." Which we did, and it did. I haven't made any -statements- to be considered, lying, though.

All I did was post a plan and a suggestion as to what it might mean.

But if you read through the posts, it becomes very clear that if I were a crazy, I would have nothing to gain from saying what I said. No one came to my defense when votes started shifting towards me, they just said things like "Eh, Vampyr might be acting suspicious." If I were a crazy, where are all my friends to help bail me out of this? I think everyone who was following my plan of casting a vote for Swan has pretty much retracted anyway.

And it's true that the crazies might not know who each other are, but the game is called MAFIA, one group has to be the Mafia. It would sort of kill the idea of the game if that group didn't know who each other was.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 06:42 AM

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On second thought, if the crazies are the ones that don't post, then why am I voting for Swan?

There are a few people who have not posted very much at all:

Professor S (who is pretty much always a bad guy), Angrist, ThatMarioLover, Aladuf, Yoda, and to a certain extent, Dyne and Bube.

I'm going to go with the Prof.

!Retract Swan

!Vote Professor S

Although I still think Swan is highly suspicious, and this vote could change again later. But if we're going to assume that one of the crazies is someone who isn't posting very much, I'm going to assume one of those people.

Bube 06-26-2008 07:40 AM

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Just because we didn't take part in your discussion with Typh doesn't mean we don't post. It just seems like that in comparison :)

And you did make a statement that could be a lie. I said that I "think" you're lying, and I didn't vote for you (yet) :)

Everybody lies here. %80 percent of all things said is a lie.

And come on Vamp, no hard feelings.. Since we don't know anything, we're just clinging onto every little thing and making up theories. It's not like we hate you :)

Vampyr 06-26-2008 08:14 AM

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I understand, it just seems like my theory is the one that makes the most sense. :\

Voting for me because I HAVE a theory is what I don't understand, especially since the vast majority of the people are starting to do that, and no one is complaining that I'm receiving votes, yet there -were- people complaining when Swan was receiving votes.

If I am crazy, where are my comrades? All I'm asking is that you read over the thread and see everything that was written, and trust your intuition. If you really read, you'll see that as a Crazy person I would have nothing to gain from instigating this, that all I did was present a logical plan, and the fact that suddenly a lot of people are voting for me is very suspicious.

Angrist 06-26-2008 08:27 AM

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Could somebody do a vote count? I already did one.

Based on the posts, there are some people I trust, but way more who I don't trust.

For the time being, I'll !vote Flunkie44

Vampyr 06-26-2008 08:47 AM

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Okay, I just read back over the votes and tallied them. Reading through the thread since about page 8, I think it's really obvious that Swan, and probably Jeepnut and Typhoid with him, are crazy. Jeepnut is only a maybe, though. He seems to genuinely be concerned about who's being an active player.

@Jeepnut: I think you also need to think about the implications of voting like that. You think that the first round is nothing but random choices, but it's NOT. The Crazy people probably know who each other are, and based on voting patterns you can at least make an educated guess rather than a random choice.

So, I

!Retract Professor S (even though I think he's suspicious)

and

!vote Swan

And the current tally is:

Uber: 4
Germantor: 1
Swan: 3
Yoda: 1
Vampyr: 4
Professor S: 1
Teuthida: 1
Flunkie: 1
Combine: 0 (Listing him because someone voted for him and then retracted)

uber_paddler 06-26-2008 09:50 AM

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I don't like it when people try to manipulate people, so on that basis I !vote Vampyr.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uber_paddler (Post 231146)
I don't like it when people try to manipulate people, so on that basis I !vote Vampyr.

Except I never tried to manipulate anyone, try to find an example of this, please.

!Retract Swan

!vote Uber Paddler

I don't like it when people stack their votes onto someone just to save their own skin.

Angrist 06-26-2008 10:13 AM

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Hm... with such a close call, you'd expect the crazy peeps to defend their team mate by voting for an innocent man. Instead of letting them both die.

Maybe they're both innocent and we have a lot of laughing thirds here.
But I expect the votes to change in the next hours. We'll see. :) I'll stick with Flunkie44, because he hasn't posted much, but those few posts were a bit nervous.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 10:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrist (Post 231148)
Hm... with such a close call, you'd expect the crazy peeps to defend their team mate by voting for an innocent man. Instead of letting them both die.

Maybe they're both innocent and we have a lot of laughing thirds here.
But I expect the votes to change in the next hours. We'll see. :) I'll stick with Flunkie44, because he hasn't posted much, but those few posts were a bit nervous.

I actually do think we're both innocent, but I'm not going to let Uber just pwn me like that. :mad:

And retaliating with a vote to him is the only way to stay alive. I still think Swan is a crazy (along with some people like Gamemaster and Prof. S who are flying under the radar). Flunkie is a possibility too, he hasn't posted very much and seems to just go with the crowd on most things. His vote for Swan could have just been a decoy, he changed it pretty quickly.

But unless we can get some support for someone else, I can't afford to change my vote. :(

uber_paddler 06-26-2008 10:18 AM

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Yup, sounds about right, lol.

manasecret 06-26-2008 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyacin (Post 231033)
Hmm, for now I am liking the swan theory.

!vote Swan

Be careful there, sir. You didn't retract your previous vote of Germy. Just letting you know, your votes may not count after that if you don't put the retraction before your vote. An edit would do I'm sure.

EDIT: Oops, I beg your pardon, sir. I see that you retracted in a separate post. Forgive me.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uber_paddler (Post 231150)
Yup, sounds about right, lol.

If you have an idea of someone to vote for, possibly someone who's not been posting much to avoid suspicion, I'll change my vote to them if you do. It needs to be someone we have a possibility of voting off, though, not someone who only has zero votes. Swan is a possibility, but Yoda, Prof S, Flunkie, and Gamemaster have also been quiet.


EDIT: In addition to what Manasecret said, be very sure to post your retractions. It makes it about 100x easier to tally up the votes.

manasecret 06-26-2008 10:30 AM

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Recounted from the beginning:

Vampyr 5
Uber 5
Swan 4
ProfS 1
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

Vampyr 06-26-2008 10:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by manasecret (Post 231153)
Recounted from the beginning:

Vampyr 5
Uber 5
Swan 4
ProfS 1
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

Didn't realize Swan had 4 votes. I guess I'd rather be tied with someone I think is Crazy than someone I don't think is.

!Retract Uber

!Vote Swan

New Tally:

Vampyr 5
Uber 4
Swan 5
ProfS 1
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

flunkie44 06-26-2008 10:59 AM

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!vote Vampyr

Normally I wouldn't think of you to be that suspicious, but doing all this posting and switching around your vote and such has made me think otherwise.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 11:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flunkie44 (Post 231155)
!vote Vampyr

Normally I wouldn't think of you to be that suspicious, but doing all this posting and switching around your vote and such has made me think otherwise.

Other than the fact that that's exactly what the bad guys HAVEN'T done in the past?

And that there isn't a group of people that seem to be working with the me?

jeepnut 06-26-2008 11:15 AM

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Well, I don't feel good about voting for Vampyr. I don't quite trust him (not sure I ever will considering the deep aversion some take to him based on his actions in the first game), but his posts and the actions of the others don't indicate to me that he's crazy.

I !retract Vampyr

I will not vote for Swan. I don't care, crazy or not. He got voted out in the first round of the previous game and that fate should not befall the same person twice.

Based on my actions from the previous game as an other, Professor S's actions are suspicious. He voted early for someone who didn't look likely to be voted out and has only shown up once since. At least last game, that's what we did in the early rounds. Voted for someone of no consequence, made a minimal appearance, and tried to stay low. Last game, Professor S was actively theorizing and deep in discussion with the other survivors. This round, he's hardly saying anything at all. Maybe this is because his theories were way off base last round, but I'm suspicious.

!vote Professor S

I'm sure all this theorizing is going to get me targeted by the crazies. If any of my guesses are correct, look for me to be killed rather quickly by the nutjobs.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 11:19 AM

Re: Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut (Post 231158)
Well, I don't feel good about voting for Vampyr. I don't quite trust him (not sure I ever will considering the deep aversion some take to him based on his actions in the first game), but his posts and the actions of the others don't indicate to me that he's crazy.

I !retract Vampyr

I will not vote for Swan. I don't care, crazy or not. He got voted out in the first round of the previous game and that fate should not befall the same person twice.

Based on my actions from the previous game as an other, Professor S's actions are suspicious. He voted early for someone who didn't look likely to be voted out and has only shown up once since. At least last game, that's what we did in the early rounds. Voted for someone of no consequence, made a minimal appearance, and tried to stay low. Last game, Professor S was actively theorizing and deep in discussion with the other survivors. This round, he's hardly saying anything at all. Maybe this is because his theories were way off base last round, but I'm suspicious.

!vote Professor S

I'm sure all this theorizing is going to get me targeted by the crazies. If any of my guesses are correct, look for me to be killed rather quickly by the nutjobs.

I completely agree with you about Professor S, the only reason I retracted my vote from him was because there weren't enough other people voting for him for it to be worth anything. I'll go ahead and put my vote back on him, though. Maybe some other people will come along before the end of the voting round and notice.

I !retract Swan

!vote Professor S

Vampyr 06-26-2008 11:21 AM

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New Tally, based off of Manasecret's last one.

Vampyr 5
Uber 4
Swan 4
ProfS 3
Yoda 1
Fyacin 1
Flunkie 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1

Angrist 06-26-2008 11:25 AM

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In that case.

I !retract Flunkie44

!vote Professor S

Fyacin 06-26-2008 12:41 PM

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Ok, I probably won't be able to come back before someone gets voted out, but for now.... Ack.

!Vote Typhoid

Who voted for me by the way?

Vampyr 06-26-2008 12:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyacin (Post 231164)
Ok, I probably won't be able to come back before someone gets voted out, but for now.... Ack.

!Vote Typhoid

Who voted for me by the way?

Man, I saw that a second before you edited and got excited that I had a chance to not be voted out this time. :(

Btw, Manasecret said you forgot to retract thegermanator vote you made earlier. You might want to add that into your post, just to make sure the right vote gets counted.

!Retract Professor S

!Vote Swan

I've said it all along anyway. :\

Anyone want to change their vote and save me? Maybe I can help in the next round and prove I'm trustworthy.

manasecret 06-26-2008 12:53 PM

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I'm sorry, Fyacin is right. I don't know how he got in that count:

Vampyr 5
Uber 4
ProfS 3
Swan 3
Yoda 1
Germy 1
Teuthida 1
Typhoid 1

Vampyr 06-26-2008 12:54 PM

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Shouldn't swan be at 5 with my vote?

If not, I want to vote for Uber instead! Gotta try to save myself somehow.

manasecret 06-26-2008 12:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 231165)
Btw, Manasecret said you forgot to retract thegermanator vote you made earlier. You might want to add that into your post, just to make sure the right vote gets counted.

I was wrong, he did retract it.

I !retract Teuthida.

I !vote Professor S.

Sorry about the miscount above. I hadn't realized Fyacin had retracted his Swan vote, which accounts for the Swan count only being 3 now.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 12:57 PM

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!Retract Swan

!Vote Professor S

jeepnut 06-26-2008 01:02 PM

Re: Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission
 
Wow, this first round is so much more interesting than the first round last game.

EDIT: Looks like this will be decided by a coin toss.

Vampyr 5
ProfS 5
Uber 4
Swan 2
Yoda 1
Germy 1
Typhoid 1

Vampyr 06-26-2008 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut (Post 231170)
Wow, this first round is so much more interesting than the first round last game.

EDIT: Looks like this will be decided by a coin toss.

Vampyr 5
ProfS 5
Uber 4
Swan 2
Yoda 1
Germy 1
Typhoid 1

Is that how it works? I thought both people were eliminated.

And yeah, this was a fun first round. :)

manasecret 06-26-2008 01:15 PM

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Coin toss is the name of the game. I think it is far more fair to have the first vote ensured to be somewhat random by a coin toss, since that's how the first round should be. I was afraid one side might have been forcing their will against Vampyr for no real good reason. At least now he has a chance.

jeepnut 06-26-2008 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 231171)
Is that how it works? I thought both people were eliminated.

I'm pretty sure that's the way it worked last game.

Vampyr 06-26-2008 01:19 PM

Re: Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepnut (Post 231173)
I'm pretty sure that's the way it worked last game.

Awesome. :D

I could still be playing. :cool:

Dylflon 06-26-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Space Madness Round 1 - Strange Transmission
 
Outside communication is allowed.

I'm running behind today and must walk my dog and such.

I shall most definitely write the narration in an hour. Hang tight, mafiosos.

Aladuf 06-26-2008 03:04 PM

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Damn this thread moves too fast. I go to sleep and wake up and go straight to work and by the time I come home for a lunch break the thread has moved like 5 pages since the night before, I can't keep up with this shit!

Vampyr 06-26-2008 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylflon (Post 231183)
Outside communication is allowed.

I'm running behind today and must walk my dog and such.

I shall most definitely write the narration in an hour. Hang tight, mafiosos.

Woot! I hope I manage to stick around, this has been a very fun Mafia thus far.

Dylflon 06-26-2008 03:51 PM

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Vampyr has the vote changing record.

Nine times.

Bravo.


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