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despite all this ending fiasco, I still think think this is one of the best games I've ever played, and my favourite game series by far. Love the ME universe.

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Yep, it was good times for sure.

Even though if it's true that your final party gets vaporized, then I had to watch every single one of my favourite characters die. But it's cool, I will accept Mordin and Legion's deaths as they were in the service of satisfying story telling.

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***Spoiler below warning (even though this is a spoiler thread).***



Apparently Mordin can live. Cam found a few YouTube videos that show some real bizarre Renegade options.

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In a very specific situation though. Wreav not Wrex has to be the Krogan leader and Eve has to die before you get her to the Shrowd. You basically convince Mordin that Wreav will be a terrible leader (Wrex is dead) and nobody will be abel to convince him to behave properly (Eve is dead). You basically renegade option him into lying and faking his own death to help convince the krogan you have cured the genophage, and he goes to work on the Crucible.

There is actually an almost hour long video on YouTube, that shows the deaths of a lot of supporitng characters.

There are many crazy options I found, a lot of them unpleasant.

The most disturbing thing I found was basically murdering Mordin in cold blood to stop him from curing the genophage. You shoot him in the back as he goes up the elevator and he struggles to get to the console bleeding and mumbling, dying just before he gets there and all the while a very sad musical score is playing. You'd have to be a terrible monster to openly kill Mordin.

Another thing that I found very sad was the Miranda death scene if you are romancing her.

Other notable options included:

gunning down Wrex if he finds out you tricked him about the genopahge.

Mudering legion, if you let the Quarians destroy the Geth fleet. OR Tali watching her fleet get destroyed by the Geth and then killing herself by jumping off a cliff.

Shooting Ashley/Kaiden on the citadel when they protect Udina.

Not going to Grissom Academy in time only to have cerberus upduct everyone, then later hearing audio logs of cerberus torturing and indoctronating Jack, then having to fight and kill her.

There is probably more, but those are the ones that really stuck. A lot of them are direct actions of renegade choices (Mordin, Wrex, etc), or not having enough reputaiton to choose either a paragon or renegade option (Quarians or Geth, Miranda).

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If you gave Legion to Cerberus in ME2, you end up fighting him somewhere in ME3.
And if you chose Morinth over Samara in ME2 (like anyone did that) she comes back as a Banshee near the end of the game.
Also your Space Hamster from ME2 is running around in the engine room where Jack used to be, go catch it!

Just read this on IGN which I found kind of funny. Its in the description of a planet from ME1.
And a description from the same planet in ME3.

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I literally just finished the game and wanted to post on it while it's still fresh - and I put spoilers on nothing.

I just wanted to put my thoughts on the indoctrination theory. So I've never watched any of the videos - these are solely my thoughts on how I perceive that possibility. I don't think that's what it is, for the record - I'm just open the idea of the concept.

So the kid at the beginning is the same as the kid posing as the Catalyst, who is also the same kid in Shep's dreams who burns. Leading me to the possibility the kid at the beginning who blew up, and who is running away from you in all of your dreams and being set on fire - was not a real kid to begin with, and was an implanted image in order to break Shep's will, or resolve, or something. I mean, that kid is a super bummer. He's so negative and all he does is tell you that you can't help him, blow up, get set on fire, until the very end when he's trying to essentially get you to side with synthetics.

At the end the kid/Catalyst keeps saying things about how he controls the Reapers, and was controlling the Illusive Man, who was controlling Shep [essentially meaning The Catalyst-kid was controlling Shepard]. But then suddenly in that conversation when it starts really pushing for synthesis or control, the Catalyst starts referring to itself and the Reapers as one-in-the same, as "us", and the voice gets a little more barotone - a little more Harbinger-y (Harbinger is said to be on the way to Earth towards the end of the battles) Maybe simply because he [The catalyst] is now including himself in the group of life who will be destroyed, or maybe the kid is an implanted Reaper image by and it brings Shep to the core at the end out of Reaper-arrogance, giving him 2 options to prolong the cycle, and 1 to obliterate it. Maybe it's just cocky. That way players get to make the final option, and [possibly] get to overcome Reaper arrogance with Human resolve and good-will (if you choose that option, that is) Like I said, I'm not pushing for the Indoctrination Theory, and I don't essentially believe in it. I'm taking the ending at face-value until proven otherwise by the people who wrote the game. I just think it's 'fun' to speculate otherwise.


Or maybe the catalyst is simply trying to get you to side with synthetics because it fears it's own demise, and is only trying to preserve itself, too - and in the end it's all just about the will to survive. Whaaaaat.


Really though, the end of the game was pretty epic. I enjoyed the entire thing, it was so many shades of epic. I want them to make fourteen more Mass Effects.

The ending of the game, on Earth was so badass. Defending fake alien planets from giant robotic versions of small cuttlefish is one thing, but I got into the battles so much more just because everything seemed familiar (in comparison to the other planets).

And I didn't mind the part after the credits, either. Essentially saying it's a story. I noticed there was some pretty hard emphasis when Buzz Aldron says he'll "Tell him another story" about "The Shepard". (Because Shepards 'lead sheep', and 'the sheep' would be the populace of the galaxy. Whaaaat.)


I don't really believe half of what I said. I just like to speculate from all possible angles for absolutely no reason.

I plan on giving this game another go on the hardest difficulty. I figure I won't be able to get the game to Dylan before the weekend, and there are...like 72 hours until then. I completed the game in about 24 hours, so I figure I'm good to go.

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Harbinger is the one who shot you during the sprint to the beam.

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I must have looked beyond that in my giant bursts of "What the-- Jesus, fuck".

Really though, I didn't mean to make it sound like I have anything against the game or anything. I've already started a new game on insanity. It is indeed insane.

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Nothing has felt more epic in a video game than sprinting down that hill to the beacon, so I can save the galaxy, praying to god I didn't get hit by that beam.

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And the solution is...

Bioware will be releasing an extended cut DLC to expand on the ending of the game for free this summer

http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail...leaseID=662095

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Haha, power to the people I guess. :p
I see this as a win for gamers. Taking a stand against the big corporation.

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And... The official Bioware forums are still a cesspool of hate and unhappiness. Of course.

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And that to me is the real win here. Gamers take back just a little bit of the power they've slowly been losing this generation.