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Teuthida 01-18-2011 09:51 PM

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You don't have to believe me. Ask Alton Brown from the Food Network.
Fallacy: Argument from authority....and an Elvis impersonator.

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THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR CAKE IS A PIE. GAME. SET. MATCH.
And yet the most popular pie isn't cheesecake for when one asks another what sort of pie they would like, they answer with a singular noun of the preferred filling which is expected to be followed by the suffix of "pie". Thus no one will ever respond with: "cheese" when asked.

And on the whole matter of what makes pie, pie, please refer back to my hamburger/bread analogy. Wouldn't custard on cake be far superior to a thin piece of almost non existent crunchy blahness which is merely there to keep your plate just a tad less messy? The answer is a resounding: Yes, yes it would.

Vampyr 01-18-2011 09:53 PM

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The greatest desert in the world is a cake:


Professor S 01-19-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Teuthida (Post 274678)
Fallacy: Argument from authority....and an Elvis impersonator.

Funny, I thought someone who is an authority on food, and illustrates the SCIENTIFIC difference between cake and pie, would hold weight...

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And yet the most popular pie isn't cheesecake for when one asks another what sort of pie they would like, they answer with a singular noun of the preferred filling which is expected to be followed by the suffix of "pie". Thus no one will ever respond with: "cheese" when asked.
Now who is playing word games again?

I stand by argument, that will now be known to posterity as "The Cheesecake Revelation".

Professor S 01-19-2011 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 274679)
The greatest desert in the world is a cake:


Your personal opinion on Tiramisu is apreciated, but inconsequential. Cheesecake is by far the most loved cake in the world. And it is a pie.

As for Tiramisu itself:

Tiramisu is a TRIFLE, not a cake, and it is made from layering components, and the only baked good involved are Lady Fingers which are best described as cookies or biscuits. It doesn't even have icing, but custard or pastry cream, which is what is used in Trifles.

Even the Wiki for for Tiramisu describes it as a Trifle.

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There is some debate regarding tiramisu's origin. It may have originated as a variation of another layered dessert, the Zuppa Inglese, and is an Italian version of the English trifle.[1]
DO YOU CAKE PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT CAKE IS?

Vampyr 01-19-2011 10:43 AM

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Lady fingers are sponge cakes - the rest of tiramisu is basically just icing. Saying that a cake isn't cake because it has custard on it is like saying a pie can't be a pie because it has apples in it. :mischief:

Teuthida 01-19-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor S (Post 274682)
Funny, I thought someone who is an authority on food, and illustrates the SCIENTIFIC difference between cake and pie, would hold weight...

He knew he was on shaky ground so he had an Elvis impersonator do it for him. Plus "Brown says that he was a poor science student in high school and college..."

And now it also appears that you're basing your entire argument on one type of pie that isn't even called pie.

I'll just leave this here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cakes

Look at all those glorious cakes.



Now let's take a look at all those...um....crusty meats....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pies

Professor S 01-19-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 274686)
Lady fingers are sponge cakes - the rest of tiramisu is basically just icing. Saying that a cake isn't cake because it has custard on it is like saying a pie can't be a pie because it has apples in it. :mischief:

According to the Tirimisu Wiki they are in fact biscuits, the European name for cookies.

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It is made of biscuits (usually savoiardi) dipped in coffee, layered with a whipped mixture of egg yolks and mascarpone, and flavored with liquor and cocoa
And NO, custard is not icing and it is not comprable to apples in an apple pie.

It is a trifle. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Teuth, you argument against Alton Brown is absurd, and a tacit admission of failure. Since the argument has reduced to absurdities and deliberate lies, I will leave it.

The best cake is a pie.

Good day. Enjoy your pie.

Teuthida 01-19-2011 12:45 PM

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Enjoy your cheesecake. The only decent pie. Don't get bored now.

*goes to survey the wonderful world of cake*

Vampyr 01-19-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor S (Post 274688)
According to the Tirimisu Wiki they are in fact biscuits, the European name for cookies.



And NO, custard is not icing and it is not comprable to apples in an apple pie.

It is a trifle. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Teuth, you argument against Alton Brown is absurd, and a tacit admission of failure. Since the argument has reduced to absurdities and deliberate lies, I will leave it.

The best cake is a pie.

Good day. Enjoy your pie.

That line you are quoting from wikipedia is immediately preceded by this line:

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Tiramisu (Italian: tiramisł; Venetian: tiramesł [tirameˈsu]; literally "pull me up") is one of the most popular Italian cakes.

Professor S 01-19-2011 01:24 PM

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To separate the ignorant from the informed...

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Histo...s/Tiramisu.htm

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Tiramisu (tih-ruh-mee-SOO) - The Italian translation for tiramisu is "carry me up."

Also known as Tuscan Trifle. Tradition tiramisu is a pudding-like dessert that usually consists of sponge cake or ladyfingers dipped in a liqueur, then layered with grated chocolate and rich custard. Tiramisu was originally made as a loose custard, it is only in recent years that using mascarpone cheese has come into fashion.
And before you say it: Yes, a Tiramisu can have sponge cake in it, but that does NOT make it cake, just as a ham sandwich is NOT a ham. Hell, this even proves my point further. They have to use custard and booze to make cake more appealing...


Vampyr 01-19-2011 05:03 PM

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If we are requiring the dessert to be reduced down to it's distinguishing component in order to be labeled that type of dessert, then cake would become plain cake (sweet, but no extra flavors), and pie would just become crust.

TheSlyMoogle 01-19-2011 06:49 PM

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Wow you Cake kids are really reaching these days.

Too bad Prof is da best at Pie arguments.

Someday cake kids, someday perhaps a cake will come along to save you from tasting terrible. Carrot cake was a good shot. So maybe.

BreakABone 01-19-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 274699)
Wow you Cake kids are really reaching these days.

Too bad Prof is da best at Pie arguments.

Someday cake kids, someday perhaps a cake will come along to save you from tasting terrible. Carrot cake was a good shot. So maybe.

We've got a ton of great tasting stuff on our side, you have cheesecake....


Fox 6 01-19-2011 07:56 PM

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Cake is even better on the small scale. Tarts blow chunks. Cupcakes for life.

TheSlyMoogle 01-19-2011 08:06 PM

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Lol red velvet cake is terrible. Absolutely terrible.

Also Pie would never dry out and get yucky like cake. Nasty fucking cake.


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