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Originally Posted by manasecret (Post 237893)

Dah, I forgot the part I meant most to respond to.

Prove it then. Do you have some kind of statistics you are referring to about how much money and time one generation contributed over another? Or just generalization based on your own experience?

No... NUMBERS. Since 1961, 178,000 people have volunteered for the peace corps. Even if the entirety of that number was from Generation X, it would amount to a total of .45%... not 45%... .45% of our population. Currently there are about 6,000 peace corps volunteers, and an estimated 110,000,000 GenXers and Millenials (40,000,000 X and 77,000,000 Millenials). I tried to create a percentage for that, but it was literally so minute is caused my calculator to error out.

http://www.peacecorps.gov/index.cfm?...w&news_id=1011

I don't even need to mention Live Aid, as it was created by Bob Geldof who was born in 1951 making him a Baby Boomer, and more obviously... Africa is still a complete mess anyway.

Its a perfect example of how intentions and feelings and even money mean next to nothing. Live Aid was important only because it raised awareness, but being aware of horrors and then ignoring them is worse than being ignorant of those horrors in the first place.

UNICEF was created in 1946 to help with the rebuilding effort after WW2. I like UNICEF. Probably the only thing the UN has done right, and I too sold candy bars to raise money for them. The real people making it work are Europeans.

http://www.unicef.org/about/who/index_history.html

Which reminds me: To be clear, my statements directly refer to American and to a lesser extent, Canadian generations. Other countries generations had much different formative experiences.

And to be honest, you keep talking about raising money, and money means nothing if it isn't applied correctly. There are dozens, if not more, charitable organizations that are frauds. AmeriVets is one, only distributing about 20% of their collected donations. But if money is all that important, here are a couple links:

http://www.thematuremarket.com/silve...y-8138-19.html

http://www.charitynavigator.org/inde....view&cpid=765
That one comes to your defense, but the data is skewed to do so because they remove religion as an aspect of the generation, which is silly.

http://philanthropy.com/free/article...3/03002501.htm

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Part of the problem may be due to generational differences. In a 2003 study by Richard Steinberg and Mark Wilhelm at the Indiana University Center on Philanthropy, 53 percent of households headed by members of Generation X — individuals born from 1961 to 1981 — reported giving to charity. That was significantly less than households headed by baby boomers (75 percent) and those headed by people born before World War II (80 percent).

I'm talking about actions. I give to the LSA, but that isn't the same as working to stop Cancer, and I certainly don't go around and pretend that I'm informed about it because I raise money. And by the way, older generations are FAR more generous with cash, and religious people are more generous than any other demographic.

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Yes, I understand that generalizations can be generally correct, that's the idea, but unless you have statistics or studies or trends to back up your generalization, then your generalization is as good as any other. If you have some studies to refer to, I would like for you to share some of what you know. I'll make another thread if that makes you feel better about it.

The following is from the handout for our Generational Identities class that I co-wrote and teach. The information is based on 7 studies that I cannot reveal as it is proprietary information. The parts relating to this discussion involve the advancement of informational technology and how it has changed the way that younger generations think, where they trust information over experience.

The Generations:
• Veterans (born 1925-1942)
• Baby Boomers (born 1943-1960)
• Gen X (born 1961-1981)
• Echo Boomers (born after 1982)

Veterans … The Silent Generation
These clients need the bottom line. They are very money conscious and rather frugal. They may fear that they may outlive their assets, and they do not wish to rely on their children to provide for them. They may not need all the fluff, but they do want the bare facts clearly explained.
Considered to be the last generation with strong social skills, this generation usually can tell a good story or play a great round of golf or a hand of bridge.

One common mistake that agents often make is the idea they are really working for the child of the senior. Although this is true in some instances, remember this generation has come through many difficulties, and it could be perceived as an insult if the information isn’t directed to them.

This group is:
• Cautious
• Have concern about their money’s value
• Maintain interest in neighborhood value
• Expect respect and fairness

Boomers
At 77 million people, this is the biggest group of buyers and sellers in the market today. The oldest in this group is in their early 60s. Historically, they are not budget minded and may be in debt. Although they are aging they believe they are ageless, most are far from thinking about retirement and many still have children living at home. (The average Echo Boomer lives at home well into their 20s.) They want the listing information on a report, but probably don’t want you to explain every detail; they will be interested in the summary information. They aren’t known for their patience so the answers need to be to the point.

A survey by NAR in 2006 indicated that most Boomers want professional services when they buy/sell Real Estate. NAR believes that boomers expect professional service and guidance and that they value those services. They expect that the professional will help to establish the correct asking price; explain all contracts, forms, agreements and will do all the negotiating on their behalf. In other words, they expect service!

This group is typically:
• Idealistic
• Cynical
• Not budget minded
• Impatient (want results)
• Uncomfortable with new technology
• Expectant of service

Gen X
This generation has that "Prove it or move it" attitude. They question everything. If they don't like what you have to say, they’ll take their business some place else. Like all generations, they are culturally egocentric. You need to speak their language and do business in the medium that they are most comfortable, the Internet.

This self-reliant group very likely will already know much of what you have to present. They can be very informal and technologically proficient. They will expect you to know at least as much as they know, but will expect that you know more.

This group is typically:
• Self reliant
• Pragmatic
• Seem demanding (question everything)
• Adaptable
• Poor people skills

Echo Boomers … Gen Y
Nearly 77 million, the largest group since the Boomers. This group is the youngest of home buyers. The oldest of the group is just entering the market place. They buy young, the average echo-boomer buys their first home at age 26; that’s three years sooner than most GenXers. A very diverse group; technology, Internet, e-communications, diversity are all within their grasp.

Although this group is very comfortable with technology, they seek expertise and associate it with experience. They will expect to be treated as adults and will be put off if they feel they are not being taken seriously.

This group is typically:
• Optimistic
• Confident
• Achievement-oriented
• Impatient
• Idealistic
• Multi-tasking

I'll post the info we give for ouir handout that we teach. It is based on 7 studies that I can't reveal because they are my companies Proprietary information. The main issues we cover that relate to this discussion is how advancements in information technology has influenced the younger generations to value information over experience.