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BreakABone 12-11-2005 10:52 PM

Re: IGN Revolution channel open
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
its got a flavor of both worlds. not the best.

and a analog stick will give you more of a fine tune, like say you want to move just a hair foward or backwards, while keyboard you would have to very quickly tap the key. It doesnt give you any wider rage of movment, because used correcty it would only be used for foward/backwars/stepleft/stepright. it gives you a finer level of controlling slight movments which doesnt help for multiplayer but may help for more of Metroids style. to get to the edge of something and jump somewhere.

however the esdf (or wasd as some would use for unknown reasons) is highly faster, and its not all about movements and weapons, theres so much more that it gives you having any key to use for anything you want all around you.

the remote acts LIKE a mouse in some ways, but if you wanna know what its more comparable to, would be the mouse pens for a PC (doubt they really still make em) but i used one many years ago and its a pen, plugged in, and you point at at the screen and the mouse moves where you point. the remote is a great advantage over controllers in FPS games, mouse is still more accurate and a ton faster.

and you'll say wait till i try it to make that comment, and i will try it, however im telling you right now, i know the technology, and i know of many things like it. the reason the mouse will still be the better choice in FPS games is because its lying on a flat surface and not being held in the air. the table giving you some resistance ups the accuracy.
but again, it will be tried and tested when it comes out.


Till trying to find the original quote, but I got this one from 3D Realms forums.

Quote:

"How does it compare to a mouse?"

From what I experienced, it seemed to be more precise than a mouse, but it's also much faster because it requires only a much smaller movement of the hand to achieve the desired effect. You just instantly point the controller at any part of the screen and bam!, that's where you're looking.

There is no lag.

There is no error.

It took a while to get used to the idea of how little effort is required to play a game with this controller. I kept wanting to lean forward and move the controller closer to the screen, and it took some practice to just sit back and just calmly move my hand ever so slightly.

At one point, someone said, "If you were to play a game with this against someone using a mouse, they'd have no chance against you." I had to admit it was true.

I've been using a mouse and keyboard for gaming for almost as long as I've been a gamer. I've logged over 80 hours so far in Battlefield 2 and I have a level 60 World of WarCraft character. If somebody had tried to tell me before now that a better controller would come along, I would have laughed at them.

But it only took me 5 minutes with the Revolution controller to realize that I don't need to use a mouse ever again.

Let's take a first-person shooter as an example. With a flick of the wrist, you can completely change your aim point from one corner of the screen to the other. Changing your aim point that way would require you to move a mouse all the way across a gamepad and could potentially take up to several seconds of pushing on a thumbstick with a standard console game controller.

Add to that the fact that the controller can correctly interpret roll (rotation of the controller clockwise and counterclockwise) and movement toward the screen or away from it, and you start to get an idea of the universe of new gameplay possibilities that Revolution games will be able to explore.
http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthread...page=0&fpart=2

Null 12-12-2005 12:23 AM

Re: IGN Revolution channel open
 
um ok, i could find a bunch of people on a message board that say that too. lol


anywho, done with this conversation. lets just move on already and try it when it comes out.

Teuthida 12-16-2005 08:17 AM

Re: IGN Revolution channel open
 
Doodie doobie doo...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Morris of CNN
By adding an auxiliary thumbstick controller, I was able to play through a level of a retrofitted "Metroid Prime 2" (a GameCube game). Confession time: When it comes to console shooters, I'm terrible. I can finish them, but I'm nowhere near as competent as I am with my mouse/keyboard setup for the PC. In the early stages of the "Metroid" demo, it looked like this trend would continue, as I was all over the screen. By mid-way, though, I was better able to move and aim – and enjoyed the game far more than I did with the GameCube controller. ("Metroid" fans... well, you're probably already pretty excited.)

It turns out I'm not the only one who has this problem with standard controllers.

"I was a developer for many years before my current role, but I've never been a very good gamer," Nintendo president Satoru Iwata told me. "I've never been able to control a first-person shooter, but as soon as I used the Revolution controller, I found it very easy to control the game. So, I think that's a genre that's particularly well suited for the controller."

So the whole reason for the controller is that Iwata isn't a very good gamer...I kid, I kid...............

MuGen 12-16-2005 11:11 AM

Re: IGN Revolution channel open
 
I just read about this on IGN from the link on this threaD

Quote:

We cannot stress this enough: Revolution is not being positioned as a competitor to either Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. Nintendo has instead chosen to design a console that will be very affordable for consumers. For that very reason, say developers in the know, the Big N has opted out of filling the system with a massive supply of expensive RAM.
Is it me or is Nintendo becoming one of those side show brands now? If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the companies who make the All-in-One game pads with all of NES games, and stuff. By not directly competing with Sony and Microsoft and aiming for an family-oriented fun console, I feel as if they are one of those companies now. Although still with a large mainstream fanbase I feel like Nintendo is just bowing out and stepping aside.

With that said.... can we really go on to the next-gen discussion threads saying, "Omg! Nintendo is better then Sony/Microsoft!" ???

Jonbo298 12-16-2005 11:18 AM

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Sony, is there a problem with Nintendo going for one genre the other 2 company's may not? "OMG TEH KIDDIEZ" is what your screaming it seems. Just because they may try for families doesn't mean they are doomed, remember that, can ya? Oh wait, you seem to not care.

Nintendo is doing their console their own way to profit. They dont need to lose $100+ on each console to attempt to "get ahead" when their business model, like *gasp* all business's is to PROFIT. This is Nintendo's way of profiting

MuGen 12-16-2005 11:37 AM

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Jonbo, don't get me wrong I was just asking a question and pointing out what I feel like Nintendo is becoming 'To me'

That post was in no way an attempt to bash them, or question their marketing strategy. Don't get so defensive man.... Where in that post did it say that it was a bad thing? I'm just saying with Nintendo going the other direction, can we directly compare it to Sony and Microsoft 'competition wise' in the next-gen.

I'm not saying.. ' Oh nintendo sux now .. that direction is idiotic '

Teuthida 12-16-2005 11:48 AM

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Had a quote in one of my earlier posts; Nintendo is going to be the top in their market by being the only one in their market.

They have transcended these console wars. Nintendo has found peace and solace through looking deep within and finding the path not taken. In war there is the battlefield and then there are the overseas hookers. PS3 and Xbox 360 will be fighting so much that they'll injury themselves beyond repair to even enjoy the whore they joined the army to consummate. Nintendo is the pimp sitting back in its purple suit polishing its many many rings; king of the hoes rather than general of an unsound army.

Jonbo298 12-16-2005 11:50 AM

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Nintendo and a pimp...man those 2 are interesting together :p


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