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I'm pretty sure it was picked up for 13 episodes.

I've already lowered my expectations. They have Shane (Jon Bernthal) credited/casted for the whole 2nd season.

Killing Shane is CENTRAL to the comic. It is the only plot point you really need to follow to a tee to still be considered a "Walking Dead" tv show. The fact that they pussied out and don't seem to be going down that path is sad but also fucking ridiculous. The comic isn't a force of great dialog, it's not really a complex or complicated comic. I don't get it. =/

If you don't kill Shane...you downplay Lori and Rick's issues. You lose the emotions during the prison stuff. It really downplays a lot of what makes the comic so good. And so my prediction is we are going to see typical TV-drama bullshit. Mounting tension between Lori, Shane, and Rick. Unspectacular and cliched writing. They could have made the show dark (like how it is supposed to be) but instead they are going to create faux drama.

They have casted Hershel Greene and it looks like the first 6 or 7 episodes will involve the Greene farm and life on the countryside. No mention of stopping in the suburbs....which could have been really creepy and fun.

I dunno, we will have to wait and see. Season 1 was B- or C+ TV for me. They captured the ambiance perfectly, the story not so much.

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But they covered themselves with contagious zombie gore! That's a pretty good story right?!?!

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Uggghhhh....don't remind me of that horribly acted episode. That is the type of comic violence that is campy and comicy enough that the show's writers should have cleaned up or just kept out of the TV show.

It's clear that their writing team isn't the best in the business.

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From the man himself:

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2011/03/04...obert-kirkman/

Who knows what motives are behind the decision. :ohreilly: Do I get a reward for making the first Kirkman-George Lucas comparison? I hope it's pie.

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Hm so when's season 2 starting again?

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Sunday the 16th

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Pretty good episode. The only thing I dislike so far is how completely idiotic the characters can be sometimes.

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I think, in some ways, it just deals with being stuck in a situation where normal rules don't always work.

Like during a character's speech, I actually felt sympathetic towards suicide attempts because, I mean at the end of the day, you are only fighting for your survival in this world. So why not go out on your own terms?

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An entertaining first episode, I still feel like this show has yet to move out of the C or B-grade level.

I'm mostly referring to some of the amateur hour acting. This stuff is unavoidable in the horror genre, which is probably why many directors go for the horror-comedy route. :D

But they need to tighten some of this stuff up. The Bambi, fuck-me looks were weird. And every scene with T-Dog has suggested that T-Dog deserves his horrible nickname.

I've already complained about plot so I'm just going along for the ride. The zombies and cinematography were good, let's hope they can keep the post-Apocalyptic ride going.

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Just waiting for T-Dog to come out and say it's alright if they just call him Theodore or something. Then again the actor's name is IronE...sooo yeah.

Since they're going to the farm in the next ep does that mean they're skipping over Tyreese?

Skill not crazy about the show for the reasons KG mentioned. Can't help but think how awesome it would be with Mad Men or Breaking Bad caliber acting.

Shall stick it out until a certain character shows up. She'll make or break this for me. Not sure if it'll be this season though. Dunno how much they're going to stretch things out.

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Eh, although that was really bad, and I was cringing during her entire speech, there were other bad parts I was thinking of. Like trying to assemble that gun while the zombie was outside the door, and that dude almost cutting his arm off, and the little girl not waiting on Rick.

It removes a lot of suspense from the show when the characters do things that make me think they deserve to die, rather than continuing to empathize with them.

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I guess to each their own.

I will agree with you, I thought it was awful that she was trying to assemble the gun while the zombie was in there. Especially since.. you know... she doesn't know how to. :lol:

And the little girl just seemed like an easy plot point, but where the hell could she sneak off to without them tracking her. Even mentioned only one set of tracks so not like she found another person.

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I didn't understand the gun assembly scene either; if you have zero clue how to put a gun together, why make the noise. But I let that one slide because the make-up was awesome on the camper zombie, and the screw driver finish was eye-wrenching.

The other scene that no one has mentioned is the scene where they cut open the zombie. The way that Daryl had to do the two-handed knife...hahaha...I was laughing. I actually wonder if that scene was intentionally supposed to bring on some camp/cheese. It definitely had the over-the-top gore of a good B-flick. "It's just a woodchuck," lololol. I'm glad you can basically take a bath in Zombie blood and not become infected.

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I heard that she will show up. No Governor though...and so I'm guessing no prison?

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Really interesting dichotomy. The community is like, "meh," but a lot of TV Review websites are singing praise. I guess because this is the only zombie show on TV? Or maybe people aren't familiar with the source material?

From Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/thewalkingde...head_spoilers/









Maybe if they followed the comic this wouldn't be such a common reaction:


Lots of discussion about the cheesy opening monologue, the church scenes, and filler sequences. And commercials (although I pre-recorded it, fast forward ftw).

And people are hypothesizing that at the CDC the guy whispered to Rick that:
Lori is pregnant. It would make sense.


Meanwhile....
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/The-Wa...ad-Review/9685

http://www.tvfanatic.com/2011/10/the...at-lies-ahead/

IGN liked it: http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/10/16...ng-dead-s2-ep1

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-...rem-42195.aspx


Really interesting split between the nerds and the general public. Now I feel like an asshole for being such a critic and whiner. I'm a fucking whiner, ha. But then like Teuthida said, Breaking Bad is such a good show...so well-acted. And Kirkman's comic really conveys an intense sense of dread. When I read the comic my mouth was open and I was thinking "holllly shit" numerous times. So far the TV show hasn't really made me feel super tense, except for maybe the scene in the house in the suburbs and the roof scene early on in Season 1.

Is this show shaping up to be the next Lost?

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Hm, I just sat through the show. I didn't want to form too much of an opinion... some stuff I liked, other I didn't.
Pretty much the same as season 1. Weird story, stupid characters, average acting, decent atmosphere.

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I like the show, a lot - still. I spent all day yesterday watching the marathon, then the new episode.

The acting in the show doesn't bother me so much, really. it's a TV show based on a comic book, so going into the show I gave it some leniency based on that alone. I'm not sure why, though. Maybe because I appreciate what they're going for so much that I overlook things I'd rip apart in other shows, and I smoke a lot of drugs.

Anyways, I lol'd at the "Jesus, give me a sign!" / "Oh, alright, I guess I'll get someone to shoot your son while he's chilling with Bambi" thing that went down. I've never read the comics, and I don't know the story - but I've got some hefty assumptions now as to what might happen in the long run because of that.


As for them getting covered in blood and not getting infected; didn't they say you could only get infected by getting a bite, or a scratch? I thought about that, too.


PS: Who the fuck would let their son walk up to a wild buck in the first place? Especially during a zombie apocalypse.

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I was under the impression, they were gonna let him gut the deer.

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I didn't get that impression from the way they shot that scene. That's a Redditor's opinion you quoted, btw. Typhoid had the same thought in his post above yours.

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At first that's what I thought. That whole scene was just so awkward.

Oh and the 'zombie herd' thing when they hid under the cars just took way too long. 10 minutes long nothing happened. Oh and 2 idiots almost get themselves killed in the stupidest way ever.

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Yeah, I was expecting him to get trampled at any moment.

I also did not get the impression they were going to let him gut the deer, considering the super happy look on the kids face just to be looking at it.

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Shrugs.

I saw Rick and Shane raise their guns to shoot the deer, and I swore Carl pulled out his knife, and they lowered their gun.

Fresh deer meat, would have been awesome.

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It was just a confusing sequence because they spent so long phrasing the shot. They focused on the deer for way too long capturing its majestic beauty. Then they kept cutting back and forth between the character's faces. I swear Rick and Shane kept exchanging "fuck me softly...gently...and soothingly" look with each other and the deer. And then Carl began to walk towards the deer.

Now mind you, these are two trained cops from Hillbilly USA. They should know how to hunt deer. Specifically, they should know that you can't just walk up to a deer. A) you'll frighten it, B) that's retarded.

It was just a very odd, drawn out scene that didn't make much sense.

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Yeah, I feel like I'm with most of you guys on this show. It has it's moments, and it's about zombies, so it's watchable. If there were this many slow moments in a show about something else, I'd probably stop watching.

Again, I just keep comparing it to Mad Men, or Breaking Bad, or Boardwalk Empire, even Homeland the new Showtime show. They're just better produced, written, and more interesting shows.

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People these days, all about action, action, action. Nobody's mind has any time for suspense anymore. It's sad, really.


Scenes like that is why I like the show. I don't like it for the mutilations or the decapitations, or even because it has zombies in it. I watch it because it's one of the few horror-genre shows that has 'classic' suspenseful moments (That I'm aware of), where there is no dialogue, just anticipation. And who knows, sometimes the anticipation leads to nothing. Take the first episode when Rick's walking down the dark set of stairs exiting the hospital. All you can hear is the guy breathing, and occasionally see him light a match. No zombies. No yelling. No guts or murder. Just anticipation.

I like the show for the "Holy fuck there's zombies, what the fuck do we do? Shut up, be quiet!" rather than the "Holy fuck there's zombies, quick, let's let a million bullets fly and bash all of their heads in!" But don't get me wrong - every once in a while that's a pro.

Personally I don't find that fair. Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire, and Generic Showtime Show C aren't based on comic books. Now granted I don't know how well Walking Dead is sticking to the comic book story, but I assume they're probably just presenting the comic book to a wider audience, rather than making a completely new show where the writers have total freedom, like they do in those shows you mentioned. I don't know.

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I liked the scene where they were hiding, it was scarier than some slashing action.
But it just took way too long.

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I agree with that to an extent, but that doesn't excuse the fact that I feel that many scenes aren't acted well and many entire episodes aren't paced well. If it wasn't going to translate well into the hour-long TV format from a comic book, then they shouldn't have made it.

You've said you've enjoyed the suspense, and obviously the show needs these slower scenes, but I just don't think I care much about the other characters. I feel like Shane and Rick are interesting, but the dynamics between the other main characters doesn't do much for me. And when long stretches are focused on those characters...I dunno, I kind of lose interest.

I kind of think that first episode could have been 45 or 60 minutes rather than 90 and it probably would've been better.

Again, I like the show, just don't really love it...Or understand why it gets the ratings and critical acclaim. It's just okay, not great, but that's just me.

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I'm with you on some of the acting being sub-par, and some characters being forgettable. It's not like I don't understand how that can ruin a show for people.

I just think because of Breaking Bad, and how good of an actor Brian Cranston is, and how good of a show that turned out to be, peoples expectations for AMC shows is now exceptionally, and ridiculously high. It's not HBO or anything, you know. I just try to give it super leniency in that sense, and just enjoy the ride for what it is.

I am high every time I watch the show though, so not only does that intensify the intense moments, it also intensifies the not-intense moments. I guess that's why I'm more into it.


Edit: But being the first episode, I'm hoping all of the next will get progressively better. The first episode of season 1 wasn't all that great compared to the other episodes. So here's hoping.

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And here I thought the first episode of season 1 was considered the best.

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Well, that was the last ep from Darabont so perhaps there will be a noticeable shift.

Obligatory Robert Kirkman iFanboy interview:



Funny as always. And shows them scenes from ep four (which we can't see) but I'm intrigued by their reactions.

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Have this PVR'd thought i'd be more excited to watch it. just havent bothered yet :P

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Blue meth in the bag of drugs. :)

Yay. Calls himself Theodore in this last ep.

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Vivian Volkoff is fucking hot! I would J on those Ts.



This episode was a marked improvement from s2 episode 1. Hershel Greene is a fucking psycho and they set that up nicely.

T-Dog is still annoying, and the search for Sophia is a continual low point for the show. I mean what the fuck...continuity...we are going on several days of her missing. Logically she is dead. Right? Right?

But I mostly want to J on Maggie's Ts. God damn.

Edit: What's with the running zombies. That kind of ruined it for me. Make up your mind, yo. The inconsistencies with the zombies behavior/intelligence/speed is becoming annoying.

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On The Talking Dead Kirkman said fresh zombies should have the ability to move quickly and slow down as they decompose more. But yeah, they do act too intelligent a lot of the time.

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Kirkman is the next George Lucas. I swear.

That shit is ANNOYING. Last week they couldn't squarely address why there were dead people in the cars who were not zombies.

Why can't he just be honest and say, "It's for dramatic effect. It's bad writing. It's a TV show and we are creating tension, lighten up."

If the zombies do in fact slow down as they decompose, doesn't that put a time line on their survival/existence? Wouldn't that imply that in 2 weeks all the zombies are going to be slow and survival will be a cake-walk?

Why couldn't he have just said, "the TV show isn't the comic, these zombies run occasionally." Why did he have to come up with a terrible explanation? Arrrrggg.


Otis is fat. He is a likely zombie-dinner candidate. At least according to Rule #1: Cardio

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Probably because most people don't like those type of answers and want to believe those in charge of the show know exactly what they're doing.

I figure making them more faster than in the comic might be a tradeoff for perhaps having less of them to use, especially now with the lower budget. If I recall, it was either the character just stumbling into one (which on screen can just make them look careless) or the sheer number of them making them a threat.

Oh...and answer to the dead bodies...head trauma from car accident. That works...but highly doubt was thought of before filmed.

Anyway it goes, it's Kirkman never went into any explanation on the whys and hows before. The zombies were always just the backdrop. I guess with a weekly show with call in questions, better to just make stuff up on the spot instead of saying he doesn't know or can't say....which he does do a lot.

Meh, Darryl is entertaining at least and the acting overall seemed better this week...might just be because of who got more screen time though.

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Better than the last episode, but still kind of meh. They took an hour to tell about 5 minutes worth of story.

It did finish strong though, hopefully the pace will quicken from here.

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It finished strong? The whole episode I was looking forward to some zombie action. All they did was run around and lock themself in... with a small piece of metal!! And they were just watching it happen. I don't think they even looked around to see if there were any walkers behind them.

I enjoyed the episode, but everything's going so slow.

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I mean it finished strong as in something actually happened, potentially setting up a good third episode.