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This is what Vampyr wants. It is what he does.


He manipulates you. He controls you while making it seems like you have a choice. Fight back my friends

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What exactly, makes sense about it?

The fact he said "If people vote for Swan and change their votes, we'll know they're crazy" or the part where you guys give up your own free decision making, by being influenced by someone who uses big words, and roundabout speaking to blind you into thinking you really have control of your own actions?

Voting for Swan - at this point - is not a smart decision, my friends.

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Ok, this is suspicous, why not vote for swan? What makes what Vampyr did any less suspect then Jeepnut? If you ask me Typhoid is a little to eager to protect Swan.

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Hmmm, why do you want to keep Swan around so badly?

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I'm going to go with that it is not me, but just the principal that you guys are doing the exact same thing that you had been doing before, but now Vamp has told you guys to do it.


Proving to himself that he could control you all this round

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I don't care if he stays or goes.
That's why I even said "Dont vote for him yet, anyways".
I just don't want you all to fall under the guidance of Vampyr, especially in the first round.
In the first round, nobody should be swayed, because nothing is apparent.

That is why the vast majority of us voted one-after-another for uber paddler with no reason why. It's just a mass clusterfuck off the bat.

But then in walks Vampyr with your minds as putty in his hands, and he's shaping reasons to get you all under his grasp.

If you listen to him in the first round, what's stopping you from listening to him in the 5th, or 6th?

It's not the fact you're all voting for Swan, it's the fact you're being told to, by Vampyr.

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Mmmmk, what should we base our vote on? Dyf said that the narrative isn't important, so we can base it on eachothers actions, which we have had very little time to observe so far, and honestly, based on your defense of Swan, I am leaning towards voting for you...

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Vote for whomever you want.
Even if it's me.
Just don't fall under the mind-grasp of listening to someone tell you WHO to vote for this early on.
Especially Vampyr. He is good at manipulating, and if you listen to him in round 1, like I said before, you'll be protecting him the entire way through, which is what he wants.
I dont want to save Swan. It has nothing to do with who you're voting for.
Like I said, it has everything to do with who you're listening to.

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Alright, now that Uber has returned, my reason for voting for him is gone.

!retract uber_paddler

Vampyr on the other hand is bugging me. He's somehow convinced others to vote for Swan because to quote some "his theory makes sense" without actually making a point or providing any evidence. Not fooling me. I need a reason to vote for someone specific if I don't vote randomly. I guess I have one now.

!vote Vampyr

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!retract uber_paddler


!vote Vampyr

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!retract Combine017

Take this Vamp....my pride is gone!


!Vote Vampyr

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Votes are - if I am correct - as follows:

uber_paddler: 5
Swan: 4
Vampyr: 4
The Germanator: 2
Yoda 9864: 1
Prof S: 1

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Wow, these votes sure have been fluctuating over the course of this round.

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Well, it looks like what is happening is exactly what I said would happen: we changed votes a few times, and suddenly we've found someone that a certain sect of people are reluctant to vote for.

No one had problems jumping onto bandwagons before, and suddenly a few people do, just like I mentioned in an earlier post.

@Jeepnut: There is my reasoning. If you do not think that this is suspicious, I'd like to know why so that I can adjust my vote accordingly. I'm providing very good logical reasoning, especially for a first round pick.

edit: And one more thing, saying that "nothing is apparent in the first round" is a lie. The crazy people know who each other are, which makes a few things very apparent.

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Hmm.

!retract Germy

!vote Swan

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!retract Swan

Gah, now I can't decide who is creeping me out more, Vampyr or Typhoid.

*edit

Or jeepnut! Everyone seems to change after he posts!

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As Jeepnut said, now that Sir Uber is participating, the cause is lost for him. So for now, I !retract Uber Paddler.

And I randomly choose, oh, I don't know, !vote Teuthida.

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I don't know about the others, but the reason I'm not voting for Swan is because YOU said we should. You picked him out of thin air and expected the rest of us to jump onboard. Now, your convincing the more gullible ones among us that anyone who doesn't go along with your vote is a loony toon. You have provided no evidence. You've just stated that if we want to prove Swan is innocent, then we should all turn on him.

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[force choke]Professor S[/force choke]
:devil:

:p

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Yes, I admitted that I picked him out of thin air, just like I picked Uber paddler out of thin air. The only difference is that no one had a problem with Uber Paddler, but for some reason people are hell bent to not vote off Swan.

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No one had a problem with Uber because up until just recently, he wasn't even participating. Can't miss someone who doesn't participate. Swan on the other hand is participating and got voted off rather early in the previous game. I wouldn't have any problem voting for him, but it kinda sucks to get voted off in the first round of both games.

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Hrrm, I didn't realize he got voted out first time last time. :(

But it still doesn't explain why Typh came out so adamantly for him.

Or why Swan was so blatantly crazy early in the thread. :\

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The problem with Uber, is that he wasn't participating. People joined general concensus and started voting for him. Building alliances.

But then he started actually playing, so people were reluctant to change their votes away from him. And it just so happened, there you were - trying to tell people who to vote for, opposed to letting them choose for themselves.

And then you come in saying "No, Vote for Swan", and suddenly have people following you, for no reason at all.

And now, here you are, trying to save yourself with a roundabout way of reasoning, that doesnt explain your actual motive.

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Not to defend the drug runner, but I do believe that I was the first passenger on this merry ship to vote for Swan. The accusations trust upon Vampyr are uncalled for my good men. Quite illogical to attack him. Illogical to the point of being crazy perhaps? Now where is my tea?

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Did you not read?
Dont try throw my name out there to make it out like I'm trying to protect him.

I even said it has NOTHING to do with who it was. You could have told people to vote for Germy, and I would have done the same thing. If this was reversed, and it was for Uber paddler, it would have been the same.

It wasnt WHO you were getting them to vote for.
It was THE FACT you were getting them to vote for someone.

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But we can't ensure that can we? You could be lying.

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Of course not.
Just like you can't ensure that Vampyr is trying to manipulate you all under his wing for getting you to vote for Swan, who he admitted he just picked out of thin air.

Those who voted for Uber, didnt pick him at random. We voted for him because he wasnt participating. We had a reason.

Vampyr, didn't.

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Yes, but I said to only vote for him for as long as it took to see if anyone would resist the change. At first the majority was focused on Germantor, and no one said anything. Then the majority was focused on Uber, and no one said anything.

Then the majority was on Swan, and suddenly a group of people cared.

When I initially voted for Swan, it was due to him making the huge sized font post, and I said "If the majority moves towards him, and no one really complains, we'll know he's not crazy, but if a group of people fight against it, then that mean's he is crazy."

I was more than willing to vote for someone other than Swan, if you all weren't making it so suspicious that he's part of a group with you. Not only didn't you vote for him, which I could never have really held against you, but you vehemently defended him.

And now that Uber is here, why aren't you shifting your votes to someone else who hasn't participated very much? There are a couple. Instead you're shifting them to me, someone who is very interested in the game and enjoying it. You're being contradictory to your own reasoning on that point.

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You're trying to twist it as if we're protecting Swan.
We're not.
You can say "You sound like you're protecting him" or "Seems like you care about him" to all of us as much as you want to win over your followers.

But like you said, you picked him at random.
So we both know, and we all know - it has nothing to do with it being Swan.
But I await your "It sounds like you're backing Swan really fast" post in return to this one.
You don't know if he's a crazy or not.
You just want to randomly kill someone, and want to see who follows you.
We want to stop you from randomly killing anyone.

The reason now, we're not going after people who aren't playing, is because we have a reason to actually vote for someone now.
The reason of an attempt at blatent manipulation.

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Ahem. I believe I spoke out against the vote for Germanator as it didn't have much reasoning. I switched my vote to you because I felt you were trying to deceive us. I'd gladly switch it to someone else who isn't participating, but as far as I can tell, everyone has made their minimum posts.

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You sound like you're trying to be manipulative, actually. You're voting for one of the most active people in the game at the moment, a person who I know isn't crazy. It seems odd you would go from voting for the least active person to possibly the most active person, unless that active person is seriously onto whatever you're up to, and endangering your plans.

I'm not being manipulative, all I did was present a plan, one with some logic behind it (or as much logic as is possible under the circumstances). I presented a -reason- for doing it, it was up to everyone else if they wanted to follow this plan or not.

I have not contacted anyone outside of the messages I've posted in this thread, everyone here knows that. I haven't sent conniving PM's trying to sway people to my side, I just presented a plan and let it be.

Now suddenly, when people start following the plan I presented, you and a few others jump all over -me- for being manipulative.

Edit:
@Jeepnut: I actually spoke out against voting Germy off in the post right before yours, when I switched from you to Uber, and you did the same. We had similar reasoning at that point. I would have remained perfectly healthy if I had just remained with the banddwagon, but the sudden shift of votes seemed way to suspicious to me.

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So, erm. Have any of you mates considered that acting like a homicidal mob is probably exactly what these crazies want us to do?

!Clarification Do we have to kill someone?

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Yes, we have to kill someone.

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Well, we'll see how this goes over night. I'm off to bed, will probably be back on around 7:30 or 8 AM tomorrow.

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Ok, this clusterfuck is not conducive to decision-making, so !retract Swan.

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Remember the lesson from the last game, my good men. It was the Others who kept quiet and didn't theorize much at all. The Innocents, on the other hand, theorized left and right trying to figure out who the Others were. Theorizing a lot makes you look suspicious, and so we ended up voting off Innocents who were suspicious only because they said a lot. It was a few rounds in before we figured out that the ones saying the most were probably innocent.

Perhaps the crazies know that, and have thus switched their strategy to fool everyone. They certainly know it now that I said it. But I still think it makes more sense to try to go along and be noticed as little as possible.

More than anything else, however, I am intrigued by the mechanics of this game. Not knowing the state of sanity of those we vote off puts the Sanes at a disadvantage. Thus, in order to even it out for the Sanes, the Crazies would also have to have some kind of disadvantage.

My question is, what is the Crazies' disadvantage?

Seems like the most likely possibility, considering Sir Dylflon's reluctance to clarify it, is that the Crazies don't know who the other Crazies are, as the Others did in the last game.

I also believe Sir Dylflon said something along those lines when he first wrote about this new game at the end of the last game.

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!retract Swan

I was just trying to look cool since everyone seemed to be doing it.

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The crazies disadvantage may also be numbers. Maybe there are a lot fewer of them this round.

Also, speaking as an Other from the previous game, I can confirm your assessment of our strategy. Honestly, the more active people stick in your mind, so you think to vote for them. It behooves the bad guys to remain as unnoticed as possible so that people look them over. That was my goal. The innocents on the other hand are trying to anyway possible to rationalize their movements to the others so as to not draw ire.

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How would you know?

Jeepnut's crazy confirmed.