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Thanks for the insightful post, GameMaster.

"thats thier damage control. lol. all companies will do it. if its not being recieved well they'll say its a prototype and design will change."

But it is being recieved very well. IGN saw the DS before the confrence, and one of the first things noted was that it was a prototype. They had not even seen it yet when Nintendo made that clear.

Though it does look better in real life, and not computer generated like many of the pictures.

Now it's time I give my two sense...

~~start rant~~
Most of these comparisons and debates are usually done between SONY fans and NINTENDO fans. Which is a huge error in their part. As far as I'm concerned SONY is in a whole 'nother league. NINTENDO is great for it's old school true to their nature gaming attitude, and people will love them for it. People who have nothing but gaming on their minds will love the new DS, because it'll probably remind them of their old Gameboy....dunno....

SONY is just amazing at making such versatile hardware. Don't forget SONY makes other hardware such as HDTV's, Plasma TV's, DVD's Players, Computers, Chips, Mother Ships, and all kinds of neat gadgets. I'm not surprised that SONY is the superior company and that the PSP is the superior handheld in terms of entertainment. With the capability to play games that catch your eye (graphic wise), and to play games that are interesting enough (storyline wise), it will probably dominate the handheld market. But what's the best thing about the SONY PSP is that is does other things as well such as give you music and movie functions. The whole purpose of this PSP system is to give people ONE thing in their pocket to entertain them.

Sooner or later NINTENDO freaks will get tired of holding the Gameboy Advanced to play some games, and then switching to their Gameboy Color to play some of their favorite games, then switching to the DS to play some 'Touch-Screen' games! Seriously... if your a gamer and just truely love games then the DS is for you... And like I said before SONY and NINTENDO should NOT be used in the same category... compare them if you will....but the comparisons will always vary because they are such different companies.

To sum it all up...

PSP = Games, movies, and music... whatever I feel like doing in different times of the day, I've got this PSP with me to satisfy my craving.... oooo ADVENT CHILDREN!! pwn4ge!

DS = Games, games, games.... i feel like watching a movie... let me go home on my DVD player.....hmmm what was that song title again? Let me go on my computer and look it up...

thats my outtake on this whole situation......notice I said nothing about price :D

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Originally Posted by GameKinG

But it is being recieved very well. IGN saw the DS before the confrence, and one of the first things noted was that it was a prototype. They had not even seen it yet when Nintendo made that clear.

Though it does look better in real life, and not computer generated like many of the pictures.

what it is has been recieved well. what it can do and the games it has and the features have all been recieved well.

but thats not what i was refering to. as far as the style or look of it.... as far as i've seen ppl havnt been thrilled with the way it looks. little big and chucky box.

but who knows. maybe ppl actually do like how it looks

they will like how it WILL look even more. :D

I'm just frustrated with how much fanboy hype there is going on in these threads from people that don't normally let that part of them take over. And of course you're always going to have a few complete fanboys that are unable to even coming close to looking at things from an unbiased perspective (cough tarakan69). I apologize, you'll have to excuse my cold. As I was saying, you'll always have a few complete fanboys, but some of the good posters (really not going to name names) are getting a bit blinded both on the DS and the PSP side.

PSP
Fact: PSP is a portable media machine. It does what it does very well. It is a poly-pusher and I'm sure we'll see some amazing technology and visuals on it.

My Opinion: MGS and GT have really got me excited. I might get it, but at this point I'm thinking a laptop might be something more appropriate.

DS
Fact: Very innovative in respect to interfacing technology in a PGU (Portable Gaming Unit). It's definately got a lot to offer with the touch screen, microphone, dual screen functionality, etc.

My Opinion: I'm really excited about the DS on a product level, but worried about it on a business level. It's compatable with the GBA, so what happens when Nintendo releases the next Gameboy (since they are planning a separate Gameboy portable)? How soon is Nintendo going to release the next Gameboy? Is the release of that going to effect the DS? Are people going to want to pay for another Nintendo handheld? The games look great. Some original stuff, some remakes, but over all classic Nintendo. Hopefully everything works out.

At any rate, let's look at them for what they are. There's no need to bicker over which one is missing what features. We already know all of that. What you need to decide for yourselves is which one best suits you. What do you want to do on a PGU? And once you've answered that there will be no need for any " Screw you all Metal Gear Acid will destroy all competition!! :mad:" comments on the board (http://gametavern.net/forums/showthr...911#post124911).

Good Night.

I've never actually bought an SP, I'm still waiting for my old model to crap out. I thought I would get an SP since they're releasing that cool retro style, but since the DS is backward-compatable I might as well save money and just wait for it. Which...was one of your points.....which....I'm confirming.....or something.....

Nintendo had better not make the mistake of releasing the DS, and then expecting their fanbase to want to buy another Game Boy because "the DS is not the successor to GBA"

That won't go over well with many people.

nintendo has way too many handhelds. it's good thing business wise to have them, but for some reason in my opinion having all these gameboys would be annoying.

The DS looks like a great gaming machine, and I dont think Nintendo should release a Gameboy successor so much as right after the DS. Wait a couple of years for people to save up money... because they just bought the DS.

I think... the DS should be there premiere handheld for 2004-2005 since it looks so good.

And the PSP is just a media machine that can provide entertainment in places you can't fit a big dvd player...lol

Honestly i think the PSP is going to hurt nintendo and take a decent chuck of thier control over the handheld market away. to me the PSP is looking very very good.

Nintendo im a little worried about overdoing it in the handheld game. They are kinda shooting themselves in the foot. the Reason the original gameboy beat all thoes other handhelds was cuz it had been around so long and had so many games. If nintendo had got tit for tat with every other handheld and kept releasing new updated gameboys to compete with them all im not so sure they woulda won against all the competition.

seems like nintendo might have lost sight of that. i think the rushed out the original GBA, only to fix some issues and bring out the SP. and now suddenly theres already a DS, with yet another gameboy on the harizon? They're making it almost too hard to keep up with em.

Thats not saying it wont do well. im sure it will. but IMO its a warning for the future. people dont want to continuously buy new handhelds. and i think nintendo should hold off for a good long while on a new gameboy after this DS.

Well, to be honest, all it would have taken is Nintendo announcing Pokemon for the DS for me to push it out in front of PSP. A Pokemon game that takes advantage of DS's features and power would be great in my opinion. PSP still looks stunning, if I had to chose between them and Money was not a factor I'd take PSP in a heart beat, but the fact is money is an issue.

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Originally Posted by TheGame

Well, they haven't done anything Pokemon yet because they're finishing up with Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green, and shipping it with the wireless adapter. I think they'd announce the new one at Space World or at least a couple months after both those games are released.

But I'm liking the prospects for Pokemon DS.. only they'd probably just do another Gameboy one instead. Probably a launch title for the Game Boy Evolution.

Do a god damn Pokemon RPG on the Cube, enough with the same handheld crap. Bring it to the Cube!!

They tried that.. Pokemon Colloseum.

It was pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Dyne

They tried that.. Pokemon Colloseum.

It was pretty good.

Hardly what I call an RPG.