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rottwylor has a point... in his last post. Cept this part:

"I also believe that over time, church and religion became (to a point) pretty corrupt, and abusive of the power they had over followers. Religion became a trojan horse in politics, causing religious wars, sado-masochistic laws, witch hunts, etc."

You can't blame the book for man's tendancies just because man used it as justification... If you are a true christian you follow the words of Jesus, and if everybody honestly in there heart was trying to be like Jesus and followed his teachings no voilence would be justified.

The old testiment is good, but it's teachings as far as morals are irrelevant. One voice in the bible is important, and that who Christians are supposed to model themselves after. If his words have been edited, it would have had to be edited an AWFUL lot to justify violence.

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I honestly don't know if you understood me or not. I wasn't blaming the bible.. I was putting blame on religion and church, who happen to use the bible. And back then, people were so afraid of being heathens and blamed for heresy, that they would have gone to war in the name of God and the bible. No one wanted to go against church and state when it came to religion, and if you did...watch your back. For the matter of words being edited out of the bible.. I don't think it was a matter of being edited. The bible was hand written for centuries, the printed press only came to be a couple hundred years ago. So when you take a book.. rewrite it by hand ( LONG ASS BOOK AT THAT)... and then have to make copies by hand... and do it again... and again... and again... for YEARS... some things tend to get lost. It's like that game where you get a group of people in a circle, and one person whispers a phrase in the persons ear next to him, and when it gets back, the phrase is somewhat skewed. Also, man is a biased creature and likes to cut corners. I think for all intents and purposes, the bible is a postive thing. I just don't think it's being used right. As far as true christians? DON'T get me started on that..ANYWAY... this is about the movie that I won't see... so enough serious talk. WHO WANTS TO SEE ALIEN V. PREDATOR!!!

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Alien vs Predator would rock.

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I wonder if that will come to gamecube...

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0370263/

During an archaeological expedition in Antartica, a team of scientists and archaeologists find themselves caught up in a battle between a hive of aliens and five teenage predators. Soon, the team realise that only one species can win

Holy ****, five teenage Predators, that sounds incredible. :D

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People back then were different than they are today. They didn't cut corners. These were sacred scriptures which they knew by memory, down to the last word. (You would too after copying them so many times.) Thus, they were able to check themselves. They wouldn't have alowed errors because they would have been ashamed to. The Bible has remained surprisingly accurate. Much more so than you give it credit for.

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man is flawed today.. he was yesterday... and he will be today. unfortunately through the many different translations the bible went through from different languages (aramaic), there will be a loss in translation. It's a given, some languages don't have the same words that another language has, and will then have to compensate... then it gets translated again...and the same thing happens. I doubt that the people translating and transcribing the bible were flawless in doing so. Since we can't go back in time to check thier personal demons and integrity, we can't assume that they wouldn't allow any errors. So are opinions stay the same.. =)

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Here's the problem with the movie from what I've heard.

First of all, it was ONE jew who betrayed jesus, one of his apostles.

secondly, it was the ROMANS who killed jesus, not the jews

thirdly, only one out of the multiple gospels blames the jews for the death of jesus. in the 60's or 70s the Vatican 2 renounced its policy of blaming the jews for jesus' death. mel gibson's extremist point of view ignores this step forward and continues to blame jews.

from what i've heard, the movie has jews spitting on jesus, and has one jew actually punch him in the face.

fourthly, the movie was condemned by the Anti-defamation league as being anti-semetic

at a time when there's enough anti-semetism in the world as it is, with no sign of it decreasing, this movie is the last thing the world needs.

fifthly, apparently gibson associates some sickly, evil looking character symbolizing satan with the jews throught the movie.

mel gibson will not get a cent of my money, and the only way i will see this film is if i pirate it online.

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you make an interesting point koopa... if all that is true, i'm sorrry to hear it... but i'll probably still see it

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I don't know. As much as there is a lot of Anti-semitiems in the world, there are a lot of people who make bigs deals out of small things.

There's been a review of a guy who was raised with Jewish people (it never said he himself was Jewish however) and that he didn't see anything anti-semitic about it.

You might want to see it yourself, Koopa, before you start listening to all of the people who spout off anti-semitism. Its like listening to all those soccer mom's who say Pokemon is Satanic and give all these "reasons" that are either not true or greatl exagerated.


*shrugs and walks away*

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so many interesting points, i'll have to do a little of my own research about this...

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In general nowadays, you can count on hearing the complaints on something more than the positive. I think the movie is going to be a good movie and, from what I hear, accurate to the Bible.

Of course the Jews are going to say its anti-semetic because they don't even believe Jesus to be what the Bible says he is. Anything having to do with the life of Jesus raises some arguement among some people because, in today's society, Jesus is one of the most controversial historical figures ever.

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the fact that its about jesus has little to do with jewish reactions to the movie. does anyone btich about Jesus Christ, Superstar, the musical by andrew lloyd webber? not much, because hey, its not anti-semetic, it doesn't depict a satan-like character hangin out with the jews, and i don't think it has a jew smacking jesus in the face.

again, this movie is not according to the mainstream interpretation of the bible, just a fringe extremist group that ignores the decisions of the Vatican, and that mel gibson and his father subscribe to.

by the way, gibson's father has publicly denied that the holocaust occurred.

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Who says that the Vatican has authority? I mean.... they're as hypocrite as I dunno what... :unsure:

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Koopa, you've condemned this movie before even seeing it. All accounts by those that have SEEN it, say that it is not anti-semetic in the least. Lets see how it turns out before flipping out.