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Blackmane 05-27-2003 03:52 AM

Online gaming is something that is much more fitted for a PC than a console, plain and simple. The fact that you have to pay an extra monthly fee for play AND you have to buy hardware in addition on top of having the console and the game and the connection in the first place. Well, that is just too much money for something you can get on the PC with just an internet connection and the game.

Now, online gaming is fun in any format, so don't come back saying that I think that online gaming on a console is not as fun or as good. It is just too cumbersome and costly in the current environment.

And TheGame, like many have said, your numbers are extremely inflated. Firstly, a PC that can do everything you need only costs about $700.

bobcat 05-27-2003 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by Blackmane
Online gaming is something that is much more fitted for a PC than a console, plain and simple. The fact that you have to pay an extra monthly fee for play AND you have to buy hardware in addition on top of having the console and the game and the connection in the first place. Well, that is just too much money for something you can get on the PC with just an internet connection and the game.

Now, online gaming is fun in any format, so don't come back saying that I think that online gaming on a console is not as fun or as good. It is just too cumbersome and costly in the current environment.

And TheGame, like many have said, your numbers are extremely inflated. Firstly, a PC that can do everything you need only costs about $700.

I hear ya

TheGame 05-27-2003 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by Mushlafa
Tower alone
2.8 ghz
GF4 MX <----- not so great but works for any game out right now
512 mb ddr ram
80 gb 7200 rpm hd
16x dvd drive
cd r-w
and a good mobo that supports 8x agp

$900 Canadian... thats like $650 U.S. buddy.. well maybe not right now Canadian dollar is high right now :unsure:
No moniter tho but im sure theres nothing wrong with the moniter your using right now...


Yeah bobcat i play CS and i use to also not be able to accept the whole keyboard and mouse thing. I use to play goldeneye and thought the controler was great for it.. then i began to play PC FPS games like Rougue spear and CS and such and realized how much slower FPS games are on a console..

Are you talking about building one or buying one from somewhere like Dell? Give me a link to an online store that gives a PC that good (with windows, no linux crap) at that price.... (and I'm talking one good enough to play the most visually impressive game out now in it's FULL glory)

And even then, I already have a PC that is good enough to do EVERYTHING else but gaming... All the extra perks of having a PC are useless, if I purchase one it would have to be for gaming only.

bobcat 05-27-2003 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by TheGame
Are you talking about building one or buying one from somewhere like Dell? Give me a link to an online store that gives a PC that good (with windows, no linux crap) at that price.... (and I'm talking one good enough to play the most visually impressive game out now in it's FULL glory)

And even then, I already have a PC that is good enough to do EVERYTHING else but gaming... All the extra perks of having a PC are useless, if I purchase one it would have to be for gaming only.

:confused:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but Pc's nowadays when you buy them are much cheaper than before, and also can do a lot like non gaming stuff AND gaming stuff.

Oh no wait I see. You don't need another Pc for general stuff coz u got one. Depending on your specs of that Pc, I Would recommend scrapping it and just buying a new one.

Why do you want to have the visually most impressing game running @ optimum? That would be impossible because you'd be paying a fortune for unneccessary graphical technology that you probably wouldn't notice to begin with.

I can buy a custom built Pc for about $1000 easy. Just the box. And you will be able to play all the games you c @ Eb for Pc.

www.computermarket.com.au

However if you are not sure about what components you want, then just get a dell/compaq (even though dell use Western Digital Hard Drives, which I have had bad experiences with).

Null 05-27-2003 05:14 PM

goto the dell page, or gateway page. i can see some without looking


And most websites you buy computer off of you build your own anyway. you go thro a list and select what you want on it.

Thing is most Non computer gameing people believe that you simply have to have the BEST, and have a computer fully loaded in every way possible to play the best looking games at thier top level. and some of these sites play into that by saying GAMEING MACHINE 1,799 They know damn well you can play every game out with costing a lot less. but they know people believe thats what they need so why not sell ones named gameing machines for that price?

and building em yourself is even cheaper.
But you can get a fine P4 2gig + 512 ram, and a GeForce 4 or Radeon for under 1000 at a website or store

Perfect Stu 05-27-2003 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by D-realJos
Given the chance, you'd spin anything into 'fanboy material', wouldn't you? :confused:
When it comes to you, sadly, there's no other tune to play. But please prove me wrong...

D-realJos 05-27-2003 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by Perfect Stu
When it comes to you, sadly, there's no other tune to play. But please prove me wrong...
I don't have to prove you wrong.. I just have to ask you what warranted such a statement in the first place, and watch you back-pedal like there was no tomorrow...

So go ahead, induldge me! I'll be patient.

Shadow_Link 05-27-2003 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by D-realJos
Given the chance, you'd spin anything into 'fanboy material', wouldn't you? :confused:

Well, that being the only thing you seem to be capable of, then why not huh? The sky's the limit! ;)

Some people always resort to that when they can't argue on the same level.

Perfect Stu 05-27-2003 07:24 PM

Your comments were ridiculously biased and shallow. Online gaming is simply just an 'X, Y, Z' game with online play strapped on? I guess that voice chat with people from different countries to plan an attack on a team of 8 user-controlled enemies from different areas of the continent is simply a 'regular old single player game with something "strapped onto it"'. Talk about misleading the reader. Why don't you explain EXACTLY what is 'strapped on' and why it adds nothing to the regular split screen/single TV multiplayer experience. There are always two sides to the fence, and you always seem to get your jollies by frolicking on the Nintendo side.

4-player Pac-Man using 4 GBAs as controllers is not evolutionary. It's new. New means nothing...people farting the tune to a song would be new...but in the end, it still stinks. This area of gaming that Miyamoto has given us from the gods may have a future of new, exciting possibilites...but right now, all I see is four people mildly enjoying themselves playing a 20 year old game.

But keep convincing yourself that I'm backpeddaling...that way, at least you like yourself...because that's what's really important, right? :)

Perfect Stu 05-27-2003 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Some people always resort to that when they can't argue on the same level.
care to join us, then? it would only make sense if you're making those kinds of comments...

Shadow_Link 05-27-2003 07:38 PM

Well, you just proved me wrong by properly replying to one of dreals posts. :)

Now if only you had done that before ;). (By the way, I didn't call or imply anyone was a fanboy in the thread, I was merely commenting on dreal's post, and I also didn't have anything to argue about, so I can't "join" you in your discussion with dreal).

Perfect Stu 05-27-2003 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Well, you just proved me wrong by properly replying to one of dreals posts. :)

Now if only you had done that before ;). (By the way, I didn't call or imply anyone was a fanboy in the thread, I was merely commenting on dreal's post, and I also didn't have anything to argue about, so I can't "join" you in your discussion with dreal).

Ok then. Unavailablity is a fun excuse, but you can't always be the spectator telling the player how to play ;)

Shadow_Link 05-27-2003 07:44 PM

Yes I can ;).

Perfect Stu 05-27-2003 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Shadow_Link
Yes I can ;).
not with dignity :D

Shadow_Link 05-27-2003 08:18 PM

You'll be surprised :D.

Anyways, it appears as though Mario Kart: DD 'may' well be online, with no subscription fees to pay. If this is true, makes you wonder if F-zero and future GCN multiplayer games (like SMB3?) will have similar, inbuilt tunneling software, which wouldn't require the use of a PC to play the games online.

As for the 4-player pacman, I'd rather play it first before deciding whether it has revolultionised the multiplayer genre or just plain sucks. I doubt either is true, but it'll be hard to find out how good/bad it is since it'll be hard to find 3 other people with GBA's.


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