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Vampyr 02-10-2005 05:24 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
if I save it as a .gif, edges tend to get jaggy.

Here are the two sigs I was referring to:


(ignore the fonts on this one...I'll be fixing them soon. I used brush's to do the background on this one. By some wierd twist of fate, I ended up making it look like claw marks.)




Edit: Here is a good site for brush's:
http://veredgf.fredfarm.com/vbrush/main.html
Click "brush search engine" over to the right side of the page. From there, let you imagination run free. :)

Null 02-10-2005 05:50 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr
if I save it as a .gif, edges tend to get jaggy.

Shouldnt, it might be a setting somewhere.



gif with transparent

Quote:

Here are the two sigs I was referring to:

(ignore the fonts on this one...I'll be fixing them soon. I used brush's to do the background on this one. By some wierd twist of fate, I ended up making it look like claw marks.)


Edit: Here is a good site for brush's:
http://veredgf.fredfarm.com/vbrush/main.html
Click "brush search engine" over to the right side of the page. From there, let you imagination run free. :)
both thoes are really good, overall i like the axl one more, but that could chagne with the font change on the otherone, also i would add a slightly darker border.

and thanks for that site, i'll check it out.

Vampyr 02-10-2005 06:13 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
That's a nice signiture. :) What font is that?

And I'm sure that you already know about this site, but if you ever want more fonts, it's a great site to use: http://www.dafonts.com

And sometimes I get jaggies when I save it as a gif, and sometimes I dont. :( I usually just play it safe and go with .jpg.

Null 02-10-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
dont remember what font it is actually. thats an older sig.

and yea, i've been to that site. actually i have a zip file with over 10,000 fonts on it. lol

problem is if i try to install them all, any program that tries to use fonts runs super slow. so its really pointless actually. heh.

Ric 02-11-2005 03:27 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bond
Ok, you can take that nice little link of yours and...

STICK IT UP YOUR CANDY ASS!

EDIT: Oh, that's good, you delete the link on me...

I put the link there as a quick link for myself. I always do stuff like that.
Dont matter anyway. It was a free online RPG I havent played in about a year. I was'nt advertising it, it was there months before you spotted it bwa haa haaaa

My ass aint made outta candy man its made outta... outta ass.

Null 02-11-2005 03:38 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
testing to see how this looks......





hmmm. maybe looks better as a full box...


GameMaster 02-11-2005 03:58 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr
That's a nice signiture. :) What font is that?

And I'm sure that you already know about this site, but if you ever want more fonts, it's a great site to use: http://www.dafonts.com

And sometimes I get jaggies when I save it as a gif, and sometimes I dont. :( I usually just play it safe and go with .jpg.

For most signatures, you'll want to save it as a JPEG. For simple ones with solid colors, GIF will be fine and it's not as big a file.

The reason you get those jagged areas when you're saving it as a gif is because the gif format is only capable of displaying 215 colors. That means any image with gradients or more than 215 colors is going to be simplified when saved as a gif, resulting in having a jagged, not as good looking picture. Even though those signatures you made look like they don't have many different colors, there's actually thousands of different shades of blue and black. So the the computer decided to cut out the varying shades of black and gray on your font, giving it a jagged bit-like look.

JPEG, however, can store thousands of colors. So for complex images like yours, JPEG is better.

With simple signatures like mine, GIF is better becuase it can actually distinguish the few colors present better. If I used JPEG, everything would've blended more giving it a less sharp look.

However, when using JPEG, you sacrafise the ability to have transparency effects like Null's Sonic creation above. It just depends on what's most important to you.

Null 02-11-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GameMaster
For most signatures, you'll want to save it as a JPEG. For simple ones with solid colors, GIF will be fine and it's not as big a file.

The reason you get those jagged areas when you're saving it as a gif is because the gif format is only capable of displaying 215 colors. That means any image with gradients or more than 215 colors is going to be simplified when saved as a gif, resulting in having a jagged, not as good looking picture. Even though those signatures you made look like they don't have many different colors, there's actually thousands of different shades of blue and black. So the the computer decided to cut out the varying shades of black and gray on your font, giving it a jagged bit-like look.

JPEG, however, can store thousands of colors. So for complex images like yours, JPEG is better.

With simple signatures like mine, GIF is better becuase it can actually distinguish the few colors present better. If I used JPEG, everything would've blended more giving it a less sharp look.

However, when using JPEG, you sacrafise the ability to have transparency effects like Null's Sonic creation above. It just depends on what's most important to you.



he does use jpg, i said to use gif instead of coloring the section he wants invisable.


However you did bring up a point that i forgot to mention. usually when i make a gif to have transparent section. its outlined in black, which gives it a smoother look on the transparent edge.



Also, what program are you using? there should be no reason a gif should look sharper then a jpg, in most cases they should look exactly the same.

Vampyr 02-11-2005 04:36 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
testing to see how this looks......





hmmm. maybe looks better as a full box...


If you could fix the rough edges, I think the one without the full box looks better.

The only thing I don't like about it is that the render on the left looks like a low quality render. :(

And unless they have a really long username, the signiture might look awkward with all that space in the middle.

And GM, I think Null is right...jpg and .gif files should look exactly the same. A jpg shouldn't blend more. And I don't really have to sacrifice the cool transparent effects...I could just do what I always do: save it as a .jpg and use the same background color as the message board. :D

The only time I use .gif's is when I make a sig like Ginkasa's...because you have to use a .gif to make use the cool video clips.

And by the way Ginky...I desperatly need to remake yours. The bg and the font looks horrible. I made that back in my beginner days.

GameMaster 02-11-2005 04:43 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
he does use jpg, i said to use gif instead of coloring the section he wants invisable.


However you did bring up a point that i forgot to mention. usually when i make a gif to have transparent section. its outlined in black, which gives it a smoother look on the transparent edge.



Also, what program are you using? there should be no reason a gif should look sharper then a jpg, in most cases they should look exactly the same.

It's a very minimal difference that would only really matter if it was your profession or something. So minimal, that it's not really visible.

Hmm...okay, look at example three at this site:

http://webmaster.info.aol.com/optimalgraph.html

Null 02-11-2005 05:07 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vampyr
If you could fix the rough edges, I think the one without the full box looks better.

The only thing I don't like about it is that the render on the left looks like a low quality render. :(

And unless they have a really long username, the signiture might look awkward with all that space in the middle.
.

it would if i left it like that. that took me 5min. i was just seeing which setup looked better on the boards.
i already have a finish on sonic for the left looking smooth. as i said. black outline does that for ya.


and GM, all that depends on quality of the compression for a jpg. you didnt mention the compression or settings on the jpg before. makes a difference.

GameMaster 02-11-2005 05:33 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Why do you always win? :mad:

Null 02-11-2005 05:50 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Why do you have a skull? :p

Typhoid 02-11-2005 05:54 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Null
Why do you have a skull? :p


Why do like....4 members have them, Is a better question.

Stray_Bullet 02-11-2005 05:57 PM

Re: Signiture & Avatar Display
 
Another good question:
Why don't you?

And Vampyr... your graphic design has improved very much since I was last here! Good job with the brush-finding.


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