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Oh right. My bad.

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Why not? I'm no flamer.

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hmm....as much as you believe that war and fighting will solve everything, much bloodshed and horror could easily be avoided by simply refusing to fight. Ranzid doesn't have anything against the troops and neither does Stonecutter, in fact tell me Gekko, would you prefer to send the troops out on a 50% probable chance of return and duke it out with the enemy or find a peaceful solution to the problem????? You might counter this statement with the fact that George Bush made a point ot look for weapons, that is not true, Bush merely did that as a show for the world to persuade him that he really wanted good for the iraqi ppl. An intelligent leader would have given Hans Blix all the time he needed to look for the weapons, but no, he conviniently cut it short and sent in the soldiers, it is not people like Ranzid or Stonecutter that disrespect the soldiers of your country, it is the corrupt politicians like George Bush who feel that their lives are a worthy sacrafice for his personal goals and the advancement of his country.

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Stonecutter disrespects the troops, and I never said a thing about Ranzid. He hates Bush and America, but to my knowledge he has never mentioned anything about the military.

You speak like you actually know something. Let me clue you in, you don't. Your opinion is not fact, and you have no evidence to back your claim. Putting accusations on the most powerful man in the world with evidence does not make you look good.

Bush is a Yale graduate, you're not one to comment on his intelligence. Blix had more than enough time, and Bush should've never sent inspectors back into the country in the first place, but some bitchy liberals wanted it, so he gave it to them.

Actually, there is overwhelming support for Bush among the military, unlike this Bill Clinton guy.

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Gekko, do you read other posts than yours? I don't "hate" America. It seems that to you, anybody that don't agree with what the US does, are anti-americans. Why don't you get your head out of your ass, and try to look at things from both sides. Like Stonecutter said, your just another warmonger. BTW aren't you gonna answer his last post? Oh that's right, you only reply to what you want to and ignore the rest right?

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Oh no, I'm not a flamer! :rolleyes:

You do hate America. You have criticized everything America does, from Afghanistan to Iraq to enviormental problems. You have never said one positive thing about the country, and all you do is complain how America is the cause of America's problems. You hate America, I hate you. Just accept it already.

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Stop being so ignorant. Just because you criticize something doesn't mean you hate it.

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What the hell have you been smoking? This is America! Agree with everything we do or you're a traitor.

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Oh yeah, that's right.

Either that or Ann Coultier can indite me for treason.


And before someone else points this out, yes, I'd still hit that.

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Hey, its all opinion. If you have the freedom to criticize just about everything American, others have the right to call you un-American if they so choose.

Its like the whole Dixie Chicks debacle. Everyone is screaming about how their first amendment rights are being trampled because of boycotts. Ummm... NO. The first amendment only refers to government censorship. If groups of like-minded people or privately owned radio stations wish to boycott a group for their political views, they are excercising THEIR first amendments rights just as the Dixie Chicks did when criticizing the president. It is just as valid a political statement. To hail the Dixie Chicks for excercising their rights and then say they are being censored by those ezxcercising theirs is silly.

Besides, the Dixie Chicks are a COUNTRY GROUP. They must be either inbred or retarded to criticize a texan president... What, they DIDN'T think people would react that way? Their fan base have gun racks and chew terbackee!

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No one was talking about calling someone unamerican, nor did they say that you couldn't call someone unamerican. My point was that just because you find fault in something, doesn't mean you hate it. I don't hate any country or any group of people, I hate individuals :)

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So has anyone seen what they did to Saddam's sons? They put putty and junk all over their faces to make them look more like they should. As if this isn't just screaming "We just killed 2 innocent men and tried to fool you into thinking it was your leaders!" (That's a lot to scream)

I'm beginning to think that the entire governmental body of the US is mentally retarted. Hmm...

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I believe they used wax, not putty.

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Hmm well they said putty on the Radio? And then later that night I saw the pictures on CNN, they looked super fake.

I read that Saddam's sons tortured people and raped would-be brides the day of their marriage. Sounds like a couple of nice, innocent people there.

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There were still visible wounds on the top of one of their heads... and such... and have you seen the images from before they touched them up with a bunch of stuff? They didn't look super fake...

When I saw what they did to the bodies (well, the faces) I knew people would start conspiracy theories about how it's not really them :p

That'd be funny if the government really did fake that it was them though... I bet Gekko and Bond would find any way they could to justify it... :sneaky:

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Oh please.

Be liberal, not ignorant.

They're dead, this is like the "the us faked 9/11" or the "if gore would have won, 9/11 wouldn't have happened" arguements. It's stupid.

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Well, at least you're not Justin.

Agreed, but you have to admit that we don't stick our noses into every single human rights abuse that's committed the world over. Case in point: China.

The U.S. is one of history's most benign superpowers if not the most benign, but it's still not philanthropic. There's always a certain amount of self-interest when we interfere. It might be to help our economy or it might be for some political gain. The fact is sending troops around is expensive. The government had better believe it's going to be worthwhile.

The rampant human rights abuses going on in Iraq might have been a good enough reason for you to send troops (or in same cases send yourself) over, but it's not a good enough reason for the public in general. When the public hears the word "war" nowadays, they think about all the sons and daughters who are going to die rather than the good it might do. And the American people will always choose their own kids over Iraqi kids.

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You're an idiot. They're dead.

Whoa, you guys got me all wrong. I didn't mean that they aren't dead. They probably are. What I was saying was that by putting wax or putty or whatever it was all over their faces it made it look like we went out and killed two innocent Iraqi people and tried to make it look like Saddam's sons. By doing that they made it easy for a bunch of Iraqi people to just say that we were lying all along. Before it was like "Well maybe they could be lying, who knows?" Now it just looks like we were lying and stuff and we were really trying to cover it up.

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At first we showed the bodies as we found them, then we waxed them up to make them look more lifelike. Either way there will always be conspiracy theories in Iraq. That's how things operate.

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I would just like to add that Saddam recently released another of his high-tech audiotapes in which he acknowledged the death of his sons, saying they were "martyred for Iraq" and also said America will be defeated.

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hmm, well i guess that proves that he's still alive