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1) Use of a vegetable/fruit/nuts as an integral part of the whole, not just a topping.

2) Cream cheese icing, that is reminiscent of Cheesecake pie.

It is a cake, but it has pie qualities that make it transcend cake and nearly elevate itself to pie status... but not quite.

And there is no need to cram it into a pirate ship mold to make it more attractive to children...

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So by your "logic" something is pie-like because it contains a vegetable/fruit/nuts and cream cheese?

You know what else is like pie then? Ice cream. Also, fruit salad. Ooh, trailmix. All those nuts. When one eats pea soup or has a bagel, one should immediately think of pie.

Vegetable cream cheese on a bagel. Can't get more pie than that! No.

You have no argument.

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Even if you disagree with me on this, what does it have to do with the pie vs. cake disagreement? Trying to distract us from the insane illogical meanderings of you and your fellow cake-people?

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On a whim I typed "define cake" into Google.

All pies are in fact cake.

/win

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Is this how desperate you cake-boyz are? You have to look to definitions beyond culinary in a flailing attempt at validity? Even in that you fail.

Pie is by no means solid, but instead most are SUSPENSION of solids in a semi-viscous LIQUID.



See how is almost falls apart and the delicious juices and sweet decadent sauce spill onto the plate. This sir, is no mere cake.

Meanwhile, as stated in your quote, cake is in in fact "soap or wax"

Delicious? I think not.

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How didn't his reply have to do with the cake vs pie argument?

You mentioned how carrot cake is more like a pie based on several criteria so he took your argument to the logical and extreme end to prove the fallacy in it.

If the only requirement to be a pie was that it had fruit/veggies or whatever and cream cheese, then reason would be that other things with those qualities could also be considered pie or pie like. Since they aren't it disputes your claims about carrot cake being pie like.

Anyhow, I still think cake win for variety and aesthetics. Pies are nice, but they aren't really that special.

Cake is iconic.

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And yet your favorite pie, cheesecake, does not follow those conventions at all. Cheesecake is more of a solid than most other cakes.

"Distract" says the fellow endlessly posting videos.

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Where was it ever stated that prof's fave pie is cheesecake?

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Stated was the best.

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In my experience cheesecake is best when it has some moisture and is not dried out and solid. I hate dry cheesecake. Cheesecake is a pie that hasn't come out of the closet yet:

Has a crust - check
Has a gooey filling placed on top of the crust - check
Often is covered with fruits or contains other typical pie elements (cherry, strawberry, blueberry) - check
Often has whipped cream placed on top - check

Additionally, the filling in cheesecake is not made conventional cake-style, it is baked more along the lines of pie filling.

:p

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That was an objective observation. I personally do not prefer Cheesecake pie. My favorite is Apple pie, namely, my mom's Apple pie. My second favorite pie is Pumpkin.

But yes, Cheesecake is a kind of suspension, structurally. What makes it keep shape is the setting of egg proteins that capture liquid, therefore keeping its pleasant texture that rides the line between solid and liquid. But it is not a solid.

Cake on the other hand is also held together by protein, but adds starch. It does not trap liquid, but instead the chemical leavening agents create tiny air bubbles that give cake its texture.

So really, cake and cheesecake/custard pie are dessert opposites. Pie is filled with delicious sauce and syrup, while cake is filled with hot air.

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You're making up so much that you have even confused yourself Prof.

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I think that pretty much sums up the thread.

We can close up shop.

Team Cake wins.

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Only in your confused, emaciated little minds. My typo does not invalidate the evisceration your beloved foodstuff just received. So much so that you abandoned your arguments to bring attention to a misstatement.

Victory, your name is pie.

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I see it as more of a Freudian slip. You know youve put pie into such a false spotlight that even you think youre "Full of hot air"

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You cannot make a factual Freudian slip. Cake is LITERALLY filled with hot air. That is what makes it rise. Pie does not rise, it does not need to, because it has already "risen" to the heights of immortality.

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Apples in crust eh? How about apples in muthafuckin' cake?!







Booyah!

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Good for you. What is your point? I said nothing about "apples in crust", my comments were about how pie and cakes are structurally different, and that pie is not a solid.

Apples being in cake does not make it rise and set any differently.

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Soooooo is that defeat? Because you really haven't had any convincing arguments other than you like the stuff your family bakes. Which is fine if that's your preference. Just know you're wrong. ;)

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Have been paying attention? You still have not successfully addressed the Cheesecake Revelation. The world's most popular "cake" is in fact a pie. We have pages and pages of cake people attempting to nullify this argument unsuccessfully, and even had a ridiculous attempt to REDEFINE pie as cake (by the definition offered the Earth would be cake).

There is no defeat beyond your avoidance of reality.

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We've.. er addressed cheesecake several times in this thread.

The best thing to say is that cheesecake wanted to be so loved, that it had to lie about being a cake so people would accept it!