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Typhoid 03-06-2010 03:09 PM

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I know my opinion isn't valid to most on RPGs, I just don't play them that much, but even I know this isn't true.
Babsy, most FF games are linear up to a certain point. The only ones that haven't been are the online ones, and 12 - and even 12 was really restricted up until a specific point when you can explore the entire world and do all of the side quests.

TheGame 03-06-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 264460)
Babsy, most FF games are linear up to a certain point. The only ones that haven't been are the online ones, and 12 - and even 12 was really restricted up until a specific point when you can explore the entire world and do all of the side quests.

This is true.

The big difference between the older ones and the new ones is that you got the "free roaming" world map in the older ones. But that world map does not open up until you've gotten through a liner part of the game that in most cases takes hours to complete.

And, I think the zoomed out, free-roaming world map.. while fun.. is kinda out dated. I doubt any new FF games would implement it.

BreakABone 03-06-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 264460)
Babsy, most FF games are linear up to a certain point. The only ones that haven't been are the online ones, and 12 - and even 12 was really restricted up until a specific point when you can explore the entire world and do all of the side quests.

Okay, I think need to clarify my point, I know that older FFs are linear in structure to get the plot rolling, most RPGs are, but you folks don't understand just HOW linear FF 13 is, the game progress quite literally down a straight,singular path.

There are VERY minor turn offs where you might find an item, but for the most part, its a straight line.

Where in other games, you have a clear path, but you aren't really forced straight down it.

And even when this "opens" up, its only one area from what I know.

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Originally Posted by TheGame (Post 264461)
This is true.

The big difference between the older ones and the new ones is that you got the "free roaming" world map in the older ones. But that world map does not open up until you've gotten through a liner part of the game that in most cases takes hours to complete.

And, I think the zoomed out, free-roaming world map.. while fun.. is kinda out dated. I doubt any new FF games would implement it.

I don't think the free-roaming world map is out of date, Mass Effect still uses something like it.

TheGame 03-06-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone (Post 264463)
Okay, I think need to clarify my point, I know that older FFs are linear in structure to get the plot rolling, most RPGs are, but you folks don't understand just HOW linear FF 13 is, the game progress quite literally down a straight,singular path.

There are VERY minor turn offs where you might find an item, but for the most part, its a straight line.

Where in other games, you have a clear path, but you aren't really forced straight down it.

And even when this "opens" up, its only one area from what I know.

Mmm, from the reviews I've seen, it's linear longer then most FF games, but it does eventually open up. IGN claims that 3/4 of the first 25 to 30 hours of the game is linear.. so that's 20ish hours of being linear before it gets to the point where the game opens up.

"Of course, players that aren't aware of Final Fantasy XIII's open-world conclusion might be much less enthusiastic, especially if they believe that the entire game is completely linear. "- IGN

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I don't think the free-roaming world map is out of date, Mass Effect still uses something like it.
I think it is out-dated, how it was pulled off before anyway. I could see a spaceship or sometype of flying vehicle going across a world map.. but the overhead map with a big headed version pf your character walking cross a landscape town to town just won't have the same effect that it used to.

I'm sure a Final Fantasy 7 remake that attempted to be on the same visual level as even FFX (yes, a last gen game) would probably end up scrapping the world map, or they'd create a new system that wouldn't resemble the old game at all... Or it'd just have a unrealistic vibe to it, which isn't bad sometimes.

Typhoid 03-06-2010 06:21 PM

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Even if it is super linear, so what?
That doesn't mean it will be a bad game or a terrible experience.

DarkMaster 03-06-2010 06:57 PM

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I'd like to recommend reading the 1up review. I almost never read reviews and don't really care about scores, but it looked short and concise so I thought I'd give it a go for fun. Lots of really interesting things brought up. Worth a read.

BreakABone 03-06-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 264468)
Even if it is super linear, so what?
That doesn't mean it will be a bad game or a terrible experience.

Don't get me wrong, I do not equate linearity with quality.

As a matter of fact, I prefer linear experiences like Uncharted or new Super Mario Bros.

I'm just pointing out what this game is in comparison to others, unless not talking to me.

Typhoid 03-07-2010 05:06 AM

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I'm debating whether or not I should get this game when it comes out on Tuesday.

Bond 03-07-2010 05:14 PM

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I took the plunge and pre-ordered FFXIII on Amazon earlier today. I will be excited to see what we think of the game once it is released.

TheSlyMoogle 03-07-2010 05:53 PM

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Oh I can't find it right now, but about 2 weeks ago I read an article, that basically explained why they're not doing a graphical remake of FF7. Basically the article explained that in order to profit from it at all they would have to be able to complete the remake in less than a year, and apparently at this time that is just impossible. However if in the future there was any possibility, like if technology changed, then maybe. I would say maybe for some big anniversary or something. If square can hang on another 15+ years. Who knows? If I find the article I'll post it. I mean I don't like FF7 that much, but I would like to see it redone graphically. Compared to 8 and 9 the visuals make it almost unplayable to me these days.

TheGame 03-09-2010 02:08 PM

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Looks like IGN gave FFXII a 8.9, also citing how linear it is and saying how it's much different then the other games in the series. The big thing that still sells it for me, is that all the reviews generally say that the story is good.

I'll be picking this one up friday.


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