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Jonbo298 07-06-2004 01:46 AM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
I read it all. Good read for anyone unsure about the switch. I hate when people say "IE only has holes because more people use it and not another browser..If Firefox was used alot, it would too"..I just reply back "But it doesn't have as many users as IE, now does it".

But I've been set for quite awhile now that I'm not ever going back to IE for regular browsing. Too many risks I'd be taking and the fact that MS bundles it with their OS just makes the world go round

manasecret 07-06-2004 07:15 PM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
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Originally Posted by Jonbo298
I read it all. Good read for anyone unsure about the switch. I hate when people say "IE only has holes because more people use it and not another browser..If Firefox was used alot, it would too"..I just reply back "But it doesn't have as many users as IE, now does it".

But the article says you still have to use IE..

Firefox doesn't work for everything, including all websites. Interesting that IE does, I wonder why.. :sneaky:

When switching to Firefox, you have to spend time finding all the plugins again and reinstalling it all yourself.

You have to figure out a new email client that, as the article states, has nowhere near as many options.

Y'all seem to ignore all the downsides of Firefox.

I've been using Firefox for about a week and, yeah, sure it's nice. But it isn't God like y'all are making it out to seem.

Like I said before, to me, tabs in one place are the same as tabs in another. Y'all may love it but I don't care. In fact, I prefer the tabs to be hidden as they can be with the Start Menu.

Speed increases and memory saving is a joke. For speed, maybe if I was still running a Pentium 2 machine with dial-up I'd notice, but with the computer I have speed is a miniscule improvement, if that.

For memory, I checked with XP how much memory each new window of IE takes and it's so little it doesn't matter. Maybe when I have 30 IE windows open while playing Half-Life 2 with Photoshop rendering and SETI@Home churning data in the background, I'll fire up Mozilla instead.

Seriously, though, I rarely even have five IE windows open, let alone more. Whenever I'm doing anything memory intensive such as games I turn everything else off anyway. So again, the movement of tabs doesn't matter.

Something I kinda liked but what I don't remember anyone mentioning (:confused: ) is the Download Manager. It helps me remember what I've downloaded; but even then I think it's cumbersome and gets in the way. I can take care of my downloads myself.

And like I said, I've never had security problems with IE before.

So what are the advantages of switching from a browser I have no problems with and does everything I want already?

A bunch of wasted time. Get off your high horses. :p

Null 07-06-2004 07:42 PM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
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Originally Posted by manasecret
Firefox doesn't work for everything, including all websites. Interesting that IE does, I wonder why.. :sneaky:

because IE doesn't obay the standards code and allows user inputed error in code to still work. aka, its more forgiving for people who dont know as much making a website. :sneaky:

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When switching to Firefox, you have to spend time finding all the plugins again and reinstalling it all yourself.
This i dont get, what in gods name are you talking about?

1, when switching to firefox you dont HAVE to go find anything, pretty much everything one needs is there. you want EXTRA options, you download and install and extention which takes all of 5 seconds.

2, if your just switching. W T F would you be reinstalling? you just installed!!! how would you REinstall anything?

3, its not talking about using firefox, there are MANY other browsers besides IE. Opera comes loaded with pretty much every option.

BTW, if you like IE so much. check out http://www.myie2.com
its a replica of IE, but adds the new features that IE lacks.

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You have to figure out a new email client that, as the article states, has nowhere near as many options.
firefox doesnt come with a email client, you still use outlook.
(unless you want a better one, then you can check out Thunderbird)
Opera Comes with a email client built in. but still, you dont have to use a new one just because you got a new browser.

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Y'all seem to ignore all the downsides of Firefox.
every browser has downsides, but ones like firefox and opera have VERY few compared to IE which by far has the most downfalls that you seem to ignore.

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I've been using Firefox for about a week and, yeah, sure it's nice. But it isn't God like y'all are making it out to seem.
no one said its god like. infact even tho i use firefox full time, (IE is uninstalled) i still find Opera to be better than firefox. i just use ff cuz its more simple.


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Like I said before, to me, tabs in one place are the same as tabs in another. Y'all may love it but I don't care. In fact, I prefer the tabs to be hidden as they can be with the Start Menu.
thats fine, most say that before they get used to em. but they are better, and after IE gets its upgrade, the last browser without tabs will be gone. so everyones going to get familar with them eventually.

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Speed increases and memory saving is a joke. For speed, maybe if I was still running a Pentium 2 machine with dial-up I'd notice, but with the computer I have speed is a miniscule improvement, if that.
for the most part your right. its not going to truly matter on a good system what the hell you use. but there are certain times you'd be suprised how one thing can be a bit faster.

that case is rare tho on a good pc.

For Memory, a tabbed browser does use quite a bit less when compared, but to the average pc thats tiny.


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Seriously, though, I rarely even have five IE windows open, let alone more. Whenever I'm doing anything memory intensive such as games I turn everything else off anyway. So again, the movement of tabs doesn't matter.

Something I kinda liked but what I don't remember anyone mentioning (:confused: ) is the Download Manager. It helps me remember what I've downloaded; but even then I think it's cumbersome and gets in the way. I can take care of my downloads myself.

And like I said, I've never had security problems with IE before.

So what are the advantages of switching from a browser I have no problems with and does everything I want already?
Something i like myself with the tabs, is that i can open 5 webpages, when doing something, comparing or searching around for different things, i can save that tab session, then later on open up and all 5 tabs with 5 webpages load right back up where i left off.

The download manager, i really like too. i HATE IE's download system, with a download manager on firefox or Opera and such i can download, pause. resume later, have a list of what i recently got,
then theres extentions that carry it on further, one i have sorts my downloads. i have it all goto my download folder, then it puts it in the correct folder by file type, then a sub folder by what website i got it from.

i manage my files myself too, but thats a time saver and i can easily find stuff later.

the security risks dont always apply to everyone for normal usage, i never had major probs myself. but IE can install things like ad/spyware without telling you. and i always hated that.

The advantages of a new browser are there. people just have to look with an open mind.
1 thing is, Microsoft does it to make money, they just want everyone using thiers, and they dont update or upgrade it because why should they? basically everyone uses it.

these people like firefox dont do it for money, they do it because they want a decent browser, they add options and things people want and listen to people. They get no money off this. IMO, i just like that.


No one is telling you to use it, use what you want. basically these topics are just informing people. because honestly man. i dont give a rats ass what browser you use.

:p hehe

i do however suggest you give that myIE2 a try, i hear people who dont want to switch from IE love it.

Typhoid 07-06-2004 08:49 PM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
Pwned. :cool:

ominub 07-06-2004 10:50 PM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
Ive never had a problem with IE. I am not going to stop useing it because someone says otherwise either.

I dunno why everyone has to bash other people :(

Seriously you guys should keep your opinions to yourself. But I guess everyone likes to get into arguements.

Typhoid 07-06-2004 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ominub
Ive never had a problem with IE. I am not going to stop useing it because someone says otherwise either.

I dunno why everyone has to bash other people :(

Seriously you guys should keep your opinions to yourself. But I guess everyone likes to get into arguements.



So your telling me your saying your not going to agree with the US Government? They are saying not to use it.

ominub 07-06-2004 10:56 PM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
Yeah. I have yet to have a problem why should I listen to them? Until I have a problem I wont be worried about it.

Jonbo298 07-07-2004 02:26 AM

Re: US Gov't Says DO NOT Use Internet Explorer
 
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But the article says you still have to use IE..

Firefox doesn't work for everything, including all websites. Interesting that IE does, I wonder why.. :sneaky:
That's because there are still sites that are either A) Poorly coded or B) Think IE is the only browser used out there

And I do know that for some sites I have to use IE. But I blame poor coding for it. But I'd say about 98% of the time, I don't use IE.

Oh yeah, and its called a monopoly ;) to your "I wonder why..."

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You have to figure out a new email client that, as the article states, has nowhere near as many options.
As Null said, it doesn't come with an email client. You choose whether you want it or not.

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Y'all seem to ignore all the downsides of Firefox.
As said, every browser has its downsides. With Firefox, they don't outshine the good side to it for me.

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I've been using Firefox for about a week and, yeah, sure it's nice. But it isn't God like y'all are making it out to seem.
As far as I know, I wasn't trying to make it sound god like. We were just stating its basically the best alternative to using IE.


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Seriously, though, I rarely even have five IE windows open, let alone more. Whenever I'm doing anything memory intensive such as games I turn everything else off anyway. So again, the movement of tabs doesn't matter.
I like having like 10 tabs or so open at once. Especially when visiting GT after an extended period. I just middle click a link, then click more until I'm done and then I start reading through each link I clicked. Also helpful for when you use Google. Open multiple sites in one browser rather then having to right click and choose open in new window (annoying to me IMO)


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And like I said, I've never had security problems with IE before.
This problem could've become a MAJOR attack if they didn't track down the Russian server fast enough. Some more popular servers were already infected with the virus and redirecting people to the russian server without the people knowing and downloading the virus. So be happy that they jumped the gun fast enough to pull down the Russian server before this could've been possilby the largest internet attack (from what they made it sound like and from what I read on how it was being distributed)

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So what are the advantages of switching from a browser I have no problems with and does everything I want already?
You have your opinion. I have mine. Take a look at MyIE2 as Null mentioned.


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