I heard Xbox is catching up to GCN in Euro, and that Xbox is predicted to come out of the Xmas season in the lead there.

As far as Japan, I don't see Xbox beating Cube..... but then again, maybe the stats are exagerated because GCN got a holiday head start over Xbox in Japan.

you actually saying they dont have good first party games???


IMO i like thier first party games better then MS's



gran turismo series

twisted metal games

games like. Dark cloud, ICO, Ratchet and Clank ?

i think. maybe.


Anywho. they have some very good first party games. And your putting them down for having the most 3rd party games? them getting the 3rd party games is VERY smart of them.

<-- Rabid Fanboy

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oh sure, edit your post when i already replied. hehe. luckily i can still get what ya said............





Shenmue is sega. might be xbox exclusive (aside from DC) but not first party.

aage of mythology / empire whatever, yea. but i guess i was just thinkin more along the lines of Exclusive titles.


And halo im not sure what they consider bungie, i guess they might be first party, but its kinda weird cuz it will be on PC too, which yes is also MS, but then also on Mac, which is not MS.

but aside from that. i respect your opionion not to like sony first party games.......... your entitled not to like sony first party games. but to say they cant make any good ones is a whole nother subject, becaause they seem to provide enough.

Well, they're not good enough to be a selling point. That's all I'm saying. All I hear is "omfg I want to buy GTA:VC/Xenosaga/Final Fantasy X/DMC2/MGS2:S". I've never heard anyone say that regarding a first-party.

not good enough to be a selling point?


GT3, perfect 10 scores. was one of THE major console sellers for PS2.

If they released it now instead of then, would it sell the same?

It was groundbreaking. It could have been good or even "meh". The main point of it was to show off the hardware. Plus, maybe because of the fact that they packaged GT3 in with the PS2 was why it sold so much! Hmmmmmmmmm!! ;)

There's no point Null... Him and D-other nintendo fanboys (;)) would never accept Sony as a decent 1st party.

I think M$ has Sony beat bcause Halo is great... and they just purchased thier only real console FPS competition.

But that doesn't mean Sony hasn't made any good games... GT3 for realism in a racing game has no competition. The others that try just get smoked. The gameplay isn't quite as real as I would have liked it to be (like car damage) but it's still hella fun.

actually Dyne, the whole reason they packaged GT3 in with a PS2 is BECAUSE OF how well it sold and how great of a game it was. they dont just put any ol game in a bundle and try to sell it. no one would buy it. the bundle was the result of the game.

and yes Game, i agree with you there. people are sometimes VERY blind.

i do say that i think sony is better first party then MS, they both have thier killer perfect rated game. but beyond that. i think sony has more good or very good first party games over MS. true ms has been around less, but thats just apart of comparing. i cant say if they had been around longer, or if they had more. because they dont.

Now that I thought about it, Sony's is better (for the time being)... most of MS's first party power is in it's future releases of Fable, Kameo, Perfect Dark 2, and Halo 2.

I can't say that they would be better if given more time because that would be just as unfair as saying Sony's 1st party would be better than Nintendo's if given more time.

well considering you really dont know how PD2 or kameo would even turn out. cant really put them on the top list just yet.

But on that subject, wouldnt rare be a 2nd party for MS? or did they actulaly buy all of rare? from what i understood, they only bought the precentage that nintendo owned from nintendo themselves.

but meh *shrugs*

Nope, they bought 100%... all of Nintendo's share, and all of those guys (I forget thier names) share.

Rare is OWNED by Microsoft. Rare IS Microsoft. It's a dev studio. Nintendo sold 49%, Rare sold some of it's, so it's much more than 51%. It's not quite 100%, because there's still other's. 100% is UNPOSSIBLE.

At least we agree on the "meh" Null.:rolleyes:
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unpossible? :hmm:


*goes off to get dictionary* :p

You know I said that purposely, right?;)