Well, since Ill have an Xbox by next summer, I'll be glad to give Rare's games a rent. Seeing as Xbox is the most pwerful console, I'd like to see how things turn out, even if I'm not a big fan of them.

Lets not forget that Rare has ownership over Jet Force Gemini and Kameo.

I don't know about the trademark thing. Rare always had ownership of PD and Conker, so why the news? Who knows how the details went down. It's quite possible Rare kept it, but it's also quite possible that Nintendo took the rights to those.

Anyway, PD I wouldn't worry about. If they make it like the N64 game it'll be a giant flop. FPS on consoles have changed, and while on N64 the game might have been good, it won't be the same this generation. But we're talking Xbox, the name will sell it ;)

Conker on N64 sucked. Although rather funny, the game itself sucked ass and was boring as hell. Not to mention poorly designed.

And Banjo-Kazooie, I don't know how well this will do on Xbox. Highly likely the anti-kiddy-Nintendo Xbox fanboys will start wacking off over the game, like they do with most exclusives. But aside from Oddworld (****) and Blix (future ****), they don't seem to be into platformers, they just hype whatever's exclusive. And BK even had mixed feelings in the Nintendo world. Some loved it, others hated the scavenger-hunt game. I thought the first one was good, but the second sucked ass.

Would you like some sugar with those sour grapes?

Rare owns thr trademarks to the following for sure:

Conker
PD
Banjo and Kazooie (Don't care really)
Kameo
Jet Force Gemini

You can research it here: http://tess.uspto.gov

Its the governements Trademark research site. An excellent research tool for many things.

Rare was the ones who thought of Banjo, PD, and Conker... But I personally think Nintendo could make a new franchise that will beat Rare's... I mean, Pikmin and Animal Crossing are great ideas for games.

It does suck to see such a good franchise to go away but that's life. We will see newer franchise that might beat Conker and Banjo in the future.

What would have to be different about Perfect Dark? I still haven't got this answer from GKG, so I guess I'll ask you.

I'd rather it stick to it's roots than go off and try to copy Halo or any other FPS.

The (non-online) Multi play is better than anything I have seen to date. Plus there is no flaws I see with the gameplay. The one player game can be fixed... Rare will acctually get help from other FPS giants this time (I wouldn't consider Nintendo or Hal any help compared to Bungie). Anything else I can even think of wrong with PD could be solved simply by putting it on a new console... like the AI problems and the visualls.

And a jump button for added action. Perhaps some bullet time effects.

Understandable addition... but it can still be "like the N64 version" with jumps... What part of the N64 is so bad and out-dated that it couldn't work on Xbox?

Breaking off from the current topic of how Rare games on X-Box will be horse poo, and how a rare game that IGN gave a 9.9 sucked ass, Rare has updated their site, and it is now in a flash format with a new movie showing someone who I assume to be joannah Dark (although she dosnet look at all the same), Conker, and Kameo.

Just thought Id point that out...

Its supposed to be a younger Joanna Dark, hence the name Perfect Dark Zero. It takes place before the first.