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Null 09-12-2002 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by Crash
metroid?
:eek: you'll get in trouble for saying that. metroid is every game type in the world but not FPS apartently.

DeathsHand 09-12-2002 02:27 PM

A lot of the game is from a first person perspective and and you have guns and shoot things... sure it doesn't have as much action as like quake or half-life or something probably, and it may have more adventure-ish stuff as well, but it also has shooting from a first person perspective ;)

Just like ED has monsters, guns, scares, and are trying to stay alive (but hey, in all games you're trying to stay alive :p) but SK is like "NO IT'S NOT A SURIVAL HORROR! IT JUST HAS SURVIVAL ELEMENTS AND HORROR ELEMENTS!"

;)

Seems like Nintendo and their second parties like to be too like... "Oh no, that term is to 'normal' for our game..." and Nintendo fans buy it and like to stress the fact that METROID IS A FIRST PERSON ADVENTURE AND ETERNAL DARKNESS IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL THRILLER!

:rolleyes:

:sneaky:

Shadow_Link 09-12-2002 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bube
Did Retro turn 1st or 2nd party? As far as I know, 1st parties are developers who also make consoles. So Retro should be 2nd? Or not? Help?
They went from 2nd to 1st... And whoever gave you the idea that you have to make consoles to be a 1st party?

Nintendo fully own Retro Stdios now, hence they are a 1st party. Not only that, but there were stories that reported the transition from 2nd to 1st :D.

Jason1 09-12-2002 04:14 PM

Lets think of it this way guys...Nintendo SOLD their share's of Rare to microsoft for what is im sure an ungodly amount of cash. Just think of what Nintendo could do with the extra money.

Null 09-12-2002 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Bube
There's something else. Something most people don't see. It's not like Microsoft took Rare away from Nintendo. MS wanted to buy Rare, and Nintendo sold their shares to MS. So Nintendo practically gave Rare away.

I've always liked Rare, BTW.


Banjo-Threeie on the X-Box! :p


thats what i been saying. if people would get mad. (which i dont know why they would) they should get mad at nintendo. nintendo sold them. its not like rare ditched them.

But good things always come of this. MS gets something they want. and im sure with the money Nintendo will get something they want.

not sure if rare will be able to get any of the characters it worked on when they were with ninteno. like banjo, or PD etc.

i guess IGN said they will have to buy thoes from nintendo. Some of them i dont know why nintendo would want tho. and they are in good terms with each other. so i think they'll prolly be able to buy them.

Plastic0006 09-12-2002 05:51 PM

noooo Don't let them buy banjo kazooie!!!

Will i be destined to play banjo kazooie on the xbox?? their crappy controller and billion dollar franchise of corporate america?

ok suppose i will no big deal right?? i said right!!??? :mad:

o well ill just eat this cheese burger :burger:

The Germanator 09-12-2002 09:49 PM

go to http://www.rarenet.com . They have an official e-mail from Nintendo explaining some things.

BlueFire 09-12-2002 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Bond
You guys just don't like Rare anymore because Nintendo no longer owns it. Don't make excuses.

Yes, it is true. Everyone loved Rare and all their games, up until this story. Now all the GameCube fanboys will hate Rare, and they will all say they never liked their games and they won't like any of their new ones. Yet in fact they hyped them before all of this.

lmao... Here we go again.. You had to do that, eh Bond? :p

Well, Rare wasn't certainly one of my favorite developers. I didn't like their platformers a lot but I am looking forward to SFA. T'was a very good game when I played it on the demo. But...whatever... Platformers weren't really a huge thing for me. I can remember playing DKC on the SNES. Ah, those were the days. And of course, Rare had good FPS games. I really don't have an opinion for this. I just don't really care that much...'cept for PD:0. That would have been a nice game. But whatever.. :p

um.. What am I supposed to say now?


...Go Microsoft?

GameKinG 09-12-2002 11:52 PM

Well, rare was a pretty good dev, and it will be interesting to see what they do without nintendo (for all I care, I hope they fail, just sour grapes).

I also hope nintendo claims:

DK
SF
PD
BK
CBF

etc. under their name...I dont know how or why they would want to, but it seems fair to me, considering Ill never own a microsoft game system (likely).

Ysy for Nintendo's over-powering lawyers!

Meh, Id like rare more, but they release games slower then nintendo, even though some of it may be due to nintendo.

GameKinG 09-12-2002 11:55 PM

Found this:

Nintendo Denies Reported Willingness To Sell Rare Stake
Thursday September 12, 3:37 am ET


TOKYO -(Dow Jones)- Nintendo Co. (J.NTD or 7974) Thursday denied a U.S. media report it is "willing to sell" a controlling stake in U.K. game software developer Rare Ltd.
There has been speculation about Microsoft Corp.'s interest in buying Rare to make more software exclusively for its Xbox console. A Nintendo spokesman said, hypothetically, the company would consider what to do with its Rare shareholding if actually contacted by Microsoft or Rare, but there hasn't been any such contact.

Nintendo owned 38% of Rare's voting rights through U.S. subsidiaries at the end of last March, but Rare hasn't supplied any software for Nintendo's Gamecube or Game Boy consoles over the past one year or so, the spokesman said.

The Los Angels Times said in a separate report Microsoft is interested in acquiring Rare, citing unnamed sources.

On the Tokyo Stock Exchange Thursday, Nintendo shares ended up 2.6% at Y14,380 Thursday. The Nikkei 225 Stock Average closed up 0.2% at 9415.23.

Null 09-13-2002 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by GameKinG
Well, rare was a pretty good dev, and it will be interesting to see what they do without nintendo (for all I care, I hope they fail, just sour grapes).

I also hope nintendo claims:

DK
SF
PD
BK
CBF

etc. under their name...I dont know how or why they would want to, but it seems fair to me, considering Ill never own a microsoft game system (likely).

Ysy for Nintendo's over-powering lawyers!

Meh, Id like rare more, but they release games slower then nintendo, even though some of it may be due to nintendo.


every character or game license that ninteno owned before rare is defently thiers... aka DK, SF. other games that rare published under nintendos name would have to be bought from nintendo... aka pd, bk conker.. etc.

at least thats how i understood it from IGN.

and as for that last post.... nintendo denies it? :hmm: or they just deny selling thier shares in it? which would mean MS would own some or most shares and nintendo owns the other 30 something percent?

hmmm. something fishie. There was something said on Planetgamecube that they suspect that Nintendo still would have a Contract with rare that not even MS could break. not sure what that would mean either tho

GameKinG 09-13-2002 12:24 AM

Hmm...well they could mean what Im about to say:

As I understand it from various stories and backround info (plus searching for old banjo kazooie boxes) Nintendo is handing over Rareware Ltd, but a seperate company that we ussualy call rareware, as Rare Ltd, is 100% owned by nintendo. Under Rare Ltd is all the licenses, which by default would be nintendo's. So even games like PD, and Kameo would belong to nintendo without forking that sector over also.

Or so it seems...

Angrist 09-13-2002 09:20 AM

Hmm... this is getting weirder every day. Nintendo confirming AND denying it at the same time?? :hmm:

I would understand it if they let go Rare, but I was looking forward to PD0... :unsure:

And yeah, perhaps they could put Retro Studios on PD. Perhaps they'll be even more original...

Ginkasa 09-13-2002 05:02 PM

I'm confused!



*runs around in circles*


Somebody clear it up! End this madness!


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