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manasecret 03-25-2010 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 265691)
The 3D on such a small screen would be ridicuterrible, I think. The illusion would look tacky, and lame. Because say you're looking at the middle of the screen playing Mario; Awesome, Mario is in 3D! Now say you have to do something near the edge of the screen; The 3D would be ruined because the screen is so small, and 'real life' is within your direct peripheral vision, ruining the illusion.

3D is only good, or great when you can't see the edges of the screen.
Even Avatar looked like shit when you peered off to the sides.
Ok, personal opinions are fine and good.

But when it comes to sales... :D

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That is 100% what I was getting at.
So -- in terms of sales -- considering what I said about the PS3 3D and media post-Avatar, how do you think that consumers are not ready for 3D-handhelds?

Typhoid 03-25-2010 04:43 PM
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So -- in terms of sales -- considering what I said about the PS3 3D and media post-Avatar, how do you think that consumers are not ready for 3D-handhelds?
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Because say you're looking at the middle of the screen playing Mario; Awesome, Mario is in 3D! Now say you have to do something near the edge of the screen; The 3D would be ruined because the screen is so small, and 'real life' is within your direct peripheral vision, ruining the illusion.

3D is only good, or great when you can't see the edges of the screen.
Even Avatar looked like shit when you peered off to the sides.

:ohreilly:

TheSlyMoogle 03-25-2010 09:56 PM
Re: Nintendo Announces 3DS
 
Well is there anyone who is still that impressed with 3D anyway? I mean I really wasn't very impressed with Avatar in 3D, I mean it was pretty, it was in 3D, I was ok with it. Honestly though, it's kinda an old gimmick, they're trying to bring it back. EH?

Someone wake me up when they have holographic shit please.

Fox 6 03-25-2010 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 265733)
Well is there anyone who is still that impressed with 3D anyway? I mean I really wasn't very impressed with Avatar in 3D, I mean it was pretty, it was in 3D, I was ok with it. Honestly though, it's kinda an old gimmick, they're trying to bring it back. EH?

Someone wake me up when they have holographic shit please.
Then it'll be like Sean Connery is in your living room......... or bed room..........

Vampyr 03-25-2010 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 265733)
Well is there anyone who is still that impressed with 3D anyway? I mean I really wasn't very impressed with Avatar in 3D, I mean it was pretty, it was in 3D, I was ok with it. Honestly though, it's kinda an old gimmick, they're trying to bring it back. EH?

Someone wake me up when they have holographic shit please.
I agree - I would prefer to see a movie not in 3D, given the option.

TheSlyMoogle 03-25-2010 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 265734)
Then it'll be like Sean Connery is in your living room......... or bed room..........
Ahh no, that would be when they make virtual reality happen.

manasecret 03-26-2010 10:50 AM
Re: Nintendo Announces 3DS
 
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 265733)
Well is there anyone who is still that impressed with 3D anyway? I mean I really wasn't very impressed with Avatar in 3D, I mean it was pretty, it was in 3D, I was ok with it. Honestly though, it's kinda an old gimmick, they're trying to bring it back. EH?

Someone wake me up when they have holographic shit please.
Well, despite yours and Vamp's opinions, I think the sales numbers of Avatar clearly show that most people are still impressed by 3D.

Personally, I would never bother to see a movie in 2D if it was meant for 3D, given the option. Vamp, if you had to see Avatar again, and had the choice, would you really watch it in 2D rather than 3D? Why?

Vampyr 03-26-2010 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by manasecret (Post 265759)
Well, despite yours and Vamp's opinions, I think the sales numbers of Avatar clearly show that most people are still impressed by 3D.

Personally, I would never bother to see a movie in 2D if it was meant for 3D, given the option. Vamp, if you had to see Avatar again, and had the choice, would you really watch it in 2D rather than 3D? Why?
I saw Avatar in 3D and 2D - don't get me wrong, I thought that the 3D was really cool. If I were going to watch it again I wouldn't really have a preference, but I would probably go 2D just for cost reasons, and so I wouldn't have to wear glasses.

But, looking at Clash of the Titans that is coming out, they have been advertising that pretty heavily as being in 3D - but I will definitely be seeing it in 2D the first time I watch it, then I might go back later and see it in 3D if it's really good.

Right now I feel like the 3D affects are still mostly gimmicky, and that the 2D version is more of the "true" movie. I sort of get the same feeling I do when I see something in full screen that was shot in wide screen. Avatar did a really great job of using 3D to enhance the world rather than trying to throw things in your face. Maybe if future movies continue doing that then my mind will change.

However, that being said I'm much more excited about the new Sharp TV that adds yellow to the RGB gamut. xD

manasecret 03-26-2010 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 265761)
I saw Avatar in 3D and 2D - don't get me wrong, I thought that the 3D was really cool. If I were going to watch it again I wouldn't really have a preference, but I would probably go 2D just for cost reasons, and so I wouldn't have to wear glasses.

But, looking at Clash of the Titans that is coming out, they have been advertising that pretty heavily as being in 3D - but I will definitely be seeing it in 2D the first time I watch it, then I might go back later and see it in 3D if it's really good.
No no no, do NOT see Clash of the Titans in 3D. It was filmed in 2D, and 3D was only tacked on later after Avatar was released and the movie studios saw $$$ in their eyes. When movie studios do THAT, then yes it is entirely a gimmick. That's studios trying to cash in on the 3D craze ushered in by Avatar, by trying to pull a fast one on consumers.

On the other hand, How to Train Your Dragon was made specifically for 3D, and is 95% on RT with 77 reviews.

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Right now I feel like the 3D affects are still mostly gimmicky, and that the 2D version is more of the "true" movie. I sort of get the same feeling I do when I see something in full screen that was shot in wide screen. Avatar did a really great job of using 3D to enhance the world rather than trying to throw things in your face. Maybe if future movies continue doing that then my mind will change.

However, that being said I'm much more excited about the new Sharp TV that adds yellow to the RGB gamut. xD
Yes, I agree. If a movie is filmed in 2D and meant for 2D, then I despise the studios that then force it into 3D for a quick buck. It's like watching some old black and white movies that were later technicolored, it just looks terrible.

And yeah I saw a commercial about that the new Sharp TV with yellow added. That sounds like a gimmick to me, I fail to see how one extra color adds all that much, when we've been creating all the colors of the rainbow and everything in between for decades with RGB. But if reviews say otherwise I will be a believer.

Vampyr 03-26-2010 11:44 AM
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Man, I really want to see How to Train your Dragon - and I was actually considering seeing it in 3D.

I've been taking a graphics class this semester, and we just learned about color a couple of weeks ago. I can see how adding yellow is a big deal.

Here is a picture of the RGB gamut. RGB can represent every color in the triangle:



Apparently Sharp is not only adding yellow, but cyan, which will reportedly allow them to represent 99% of the colors visible to the eye.

magus113 03-26-2010 11:53 AM
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Holy shit, that's crazy.

manasecret 03-26-2010 11:57 AM
Re: Nintendo Announces 3DS
 
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Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 265765)
Man, I really want to see How to Train your Dragon - and I was actually considering seeing it in 3D.
Yeah, I hadn't heard anything about it, until a couple days ago I heard a piece about Clash of the Titans/How to Train Your Dragon on NPR. Basically, the guy who made Dragon had been advocating up and down for 3D long before Avatar came out, back when studios and theaters were on the fence about it and weren't sure if it was a fad or not, trying to get movie theaters to install more 3D theaters. Then Avatar comes out, makes everything quite obvious for the studios and theaters, and now the studio tacks on 3D to Titans -- one of the expected huge blockbusters, which was filmed entirely in 2D -- and release it one week after the guy's Dragon movie and steal his thunder. That fucking sucks for him.

After seeing the reviews, and knowing it was meant for 3D, I really want to see it, too.

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I've been taking a graphics class this semester, and we just learned about color a couple of weeks ago. I can see how adding yellow is a big deal.

Here is a picture of the RGB gamut. RGB can represent every color in the triangle:



Apparently Sharp is not only adding yellow, but cyan, which will reportedly allow them to represent 99% of the colors visible to the eye.
Ah, now a color chart is something I can get behind! If they had shown that in the commercial, then I would have been amazed. But then again I am an engineering guy.

Vampyr 03-26-2010 12:04 PM
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Man you've convinced me about How to Train your Dragon...I just sent a text to my girlfriend trying to talk her into going tonight to see it in 3D. :lolz:

Angrist 03-26-2010 12:31 PM
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I don't see how 3D for the new DS can be something bad, unless it really increases the price. And disables touch screen.

So far it all sounds good:
- Dual screens (that can be combined into 1 big screen?)
- Hopefully touch screen(s) (why would they remove it?)
- More power
- 3D screens (however it works)

They've become quite good at digital distribution in this generation, so we'll see how that goes.

BreakABone 03-26-2010 01:13 PM
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I got to say I nerded out when I saw that Sharp was adding a yellow to their TVs. Granted, we'd have to get new equipment, I would assume.

And just for the record, I believe Avatar: The Game is actually in 3D so its been done on consoles before, just not well.

I know Sony is patching the PS3 to support it, and so far I know Super Stardust HD is one of the games that will support it.

And I think that 3D could possibly work if done like the video, and not actually having you in 3D, if that makes sense.


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