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KillerGremlin 12-07-2009 01:05 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
Yet another reason why online PC gaming > console gaming. If people could set up their own servers and be their own admins, then they could establish server rules that decide if you get banned from that server for using "map exploits" or "game exploits."

Even though the bans are just temporary, it's pretty lame for Microsoft to ban users for using software exploits that are the result of a developer's poor coding. Every game has exploits, and it is an issue that pops up in EVERY online game. It's one thing for a server run by some individuals to ban users, but for the developer to ban users (who paid for their buggy game).....eh, that's pretty lame.

Vampyr 12-07-2009 02:02 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 260874)
Microsoft should be able to do whatever it wants within the terms of service that users agree to when registering for Xbox Live.

Of course they can - and as you can see they are. I believe the question was more meant to mean "is it right for them to do this".

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Originally Posted by KG
Yet another reason why online PC gaming > console gaming. If people could set up their own servers and be their own admins, then they could establish server rules that decide if you get banned from that server for using "map exploits" or "game exploits."

Isn't the PC version of MW2 also not on dedicated servers?

Fox 6 12-07-2009 02:13 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
The PC version is on something called IW net which lets them rule with an iron fist. Pretty sure the same thing is going on on the PC

KillerGremlin 12-08-2009 02:55 AM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
That's pretty lame if the PC version is run like that....I wonder what the reaction among the PC community is. Ah, 1.5 stars on Amazon, so basically the PC community has heralded the game as a piece of shit. Not surprising given the developer's reaction to BAN users for poor coding. Shouldn't their reaction have been to reward the users for finding the exploit and patching it? That's what happens in the PC community.

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Mode...0257834&sr=8-3

I am reminded of the jump exploits in Halo 2...or rocket jumping in TFC...or the endless amount of map exploits in Counter-Strike. Usually developers let players use these exploits and they have fun with it, or they patch them up. Otherwise it usually operates based on server rules. If you want to run your own server for TF2 and you don't want people doing certain things, you can make some server rules and ban as you please. But then Bungie and Valve love their community. Or even Blizzard, who is adamant about banning hackers but have always had a patch-or-ignore attitude towards exploits. I guess we can't expect a quality relationship between every developer and the people who pay for their software.

Angrist 12-08-2009 06:23 AM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
It reminds me of the illegal exploring in World of Warcraft.
Blizzard made a huge world, and they locked away some of the areas because they weren't ready yet. But because they messed up, players found ways to enter these areas.
It took a lot of skill, but it was worth it. I've done it myself a few times (Old Zul'Gurub), it was interesting to see how areas had evolved etc.
But it's illegal. Blizzard has banned people for entering these areas. I think that's pathetic. They give people the content, but forbid them to use it. And they don't even patch it...

Combine 017 12-08-2009 10:47 AM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 260916)
That's pretty lame if the PC version is run like that....I wonder what the reaction among the PC community is. Ah, 1.5 stars on Amazon, so basically the PC community has heralded the game as a piece of shit. Not surprising given the developer's reaction to BAN users for poor coding. Shouldn't their reaction have been to reward the users for finding the exploit and patching it? That's what happens in the PC community.

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Mode...0257834&sr=8-3

I am reminded of the jump exploits in Halo 2...or rocket jumping in TFC...or the endless amount of map exploits in Counter-Strike. Usually developers let players use these exploits and they have fun with it, or they patch them up. Otherwise it usually operates based on server rules. If you want to run your own server for TF2 and you don't want people doing certain things, you can make some server rules and ban as you please. But then Bungie and Valve love their community. Or even Blizzard, who is adamant about banning hackers but have always had a patch-or-ignore attitude towards exploits. I guess we can't expect a quality relationship between every developer and the people who pay for their software.

Map exploits or rocket jumping is a little bit different than the javelin glitch. I dont mind when people use map exploits because ill usually know how to get them out of there. But when theres a guy running around doing nothing but waiting to get shot so he can explode and kill everyone around him it gets annoying. Hes basically getting rewarded for dying.

Fox 6 12-08-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin (Post 260916)
That's pretty lame if the PC version is run like that....I wonder what the reaction among the PC community is. Ah, 1.5 stars on Amazon, so basically the PC community has heralded the game as a piece of shit. Not surprising given the developer's reaction to BAN users for poor coding. Shouldn't their reaction have been to reward the users for finding the exploit and patching it? That's what happens in the PC community.

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Mode...0257834&sr=8-3

I am reminded of the jump exploits in Halo 2...or rocket jumping in TFC...or the endless amount of map exploits in Counter-Strike. Usually developers let players use these exploits and they have fun with it, or they patch them up. Otherwise it usually operates based on server rules. If you want to run your own server for TF2 and you don't want people doing certain things, you can make some server rules and ban as you please. But then Bungie and Valve love their community. Or even Blizzard, who is adamant about banning hackers but have always had a patch-or-ignore attitude towards exploits. I guess we can't expect a quality relationship between every developer and the people who pay for their software.

A peice of shit that they all play?


KillerGremlin 12-08-2009 01:34 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 260928)
A peice of shit that they all play?


This just proves that the only people who play this game on PC are idiots. Obviously you aren't too bright if you join a boycott group and then go play the game you are boycotting. :p

TheSlyMoogle 12-08-2009 01:59 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 260875)
Basically you turn yourself into a walking bomb that has a really big explosion as soon as you die. So you run into a group of enemies and let them shoot you and you kill them. If they dont shoot you, you can just knife them or something. Pretty much a lose lose situation for anyone whos is not doing it.


Not entirely true about the free knife kills. You have to recook the nade and switch back to javelin in order to reset the glitch. It actually seems to take a fair amount of skill to do it well.

Plus how is that anymore broken than the knife elite who can ran forever, faster, and basically teleport behind an enemy from like 30 feet away and kill them? Also double shotgunner class is fucking disgusting too. That shit is free.

All around a really unbalanced game, and someone discovered this glitch and was like "Oh hey" I approve of the "Suicide Bomber" class.

Fox 6 12-08-2009 02:13 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle (Post 260932)
You have to recook the nade and switch back to javelin in order to reset the glitch. It actually seems to take a fair amount of skill to do it well.

No you dont, just tap the SEMTEX button (which doesnt cook) and you switch back and are good to go.

TheSlyMoogle 12-08-2009 06:47 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
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Originally Posted by Fox 6 (Post 260933)
No you dont, just tap the SEMTEX button (which doesnt cook) and you switch back and are good to go.

Oh. Well damn.

Fox 6 12-11-2009 04:31 PM

Re: Xbox Banning and Piracy
 
Patched

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1054431p1.html


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