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TheGame 08-28-2009 03:53 PM

Re: I No Longer Bleed Green
 
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And besides, I have a good feeling he isn't sorry for what he did, he's just sorry he got caught doing it and his good times are over.
I've heard that from a lot of people. I'm curious though, what would he have to do to prove to you that he's sorry for what he did?

Typhoid 08-28-2009 04:07 PM

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Forgiveness is a funny thing. It shouldn't be like saying "it's ok, lets forget the past." It would be like "It's not ok what you did, but I'm ready to let you work to make up for it." People who applaud him at games, and what you guys are saying, have done the former, not the latter.

Um, what?

Just because they applaud him doesn't mean they've forgotten the past.
There is the ability to separate Vick the person, from Vick the football player. And that is what I believe the people were doing.

If you have a good player at any sport, who is a mass murderer. Does that suddenly make them bad at that sport? No, they'd still be a really good player. Bad person. Good player.

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And besides, I have a good feeling he isn't sorry for what he did, he's just sorry he got caught doing it and his good times are over.
Most people who break the law (to an extensive degree) are never sorry for what they did. Being sorry shows signs of morality and guilt. If they had that in the first place, they wouldn't have committed the acts. They're all just sorry they got caught. They can be sorry for what they did because it resulted of a life in prison, however. But that's beside the point.

The bottom line is, like I said - Vick is a good player. When he's on the field he's not auditioning for "Best Human being in the world", he's a quarterback, auditioning for a starter spot on a roster, and it's 100% okay for people to cheer for him.

TheGame 08-28-2009 06:34 PM

Re: I No Longer Bleed Green
 
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Originally Posted by TheGame (Post 256439)
I've heard that from a lot of people. I'm curious though, what would he have to do to prove to you that he's sorry for what he did?

I just asked my girlfriend this.. and she said he'd have hang himself to prove it to her. Lmao, that's pretty bad.

Vampyr 08-28-2009 09:25 PM

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Well I basically already said that, for me, there's nothing he could do. I think it's a basic flaw in his person.

And I never made any claims to the statistics of how many people are really sorry for doing something bad.

Also, I disagree that you can separate the player from the person. I would need an actual reason to want that person to win in order to cheer for the player.

Typhoid 08-28-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyr (Post 256463)
I would need an actual reason to want that person to win in order to cheer for the player.

Being a good player isn't a reason?


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