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Dylflon 02-15-2008 02:00 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
Last night's episode was amazing and Sayid is a stone cold badass.

GameMaster 02-16-2008 04:52 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
Gah! So many questions!

How did Ben rise to power again!?

Why does Sayid timidly obey him!?

Who exactly are the folks Ben is having Sayid 'take care' of?

Why has Locke become such an asshat?

When Locke brought iced tea to Sayid and Ben, why didn't Sayid thrash his ass then?

Typhoid 02-16-2008 06:49 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217052)
How did Ben rise to power again!?

Because he manipulates people.

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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217052)
Why does Sayid timidly obey him!?

Because he got off the island and feels bad for leaving his other friends behind.

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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217052)
Who exactly are the folks Ben is having Sayid 'take care' of?

The people looking for the Island.
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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217052)
Why has Locke become such an asshat?

He doesn't want to be saved.
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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217052)
When Locke brought iced tea to Sayid and Ben, why didn't Sayid thrash his ass then?

Because iced tea is delicious.

Dylflon 02-18-2008 02:16 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by Typhoid (Post 217053)
Because iced tea is delicious.

Bolded for truth.


I like that even though Locke is all off the rocker, he still responds to diplomacy.

GameMaster 02-22-2008 06:44 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
Kate, how could you steal Claire's baby from her?

You know Aaron is not yours!

Just like Jack, I no longer love you either!

Bube 02-23-2008 11:32 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217187)
Kate, how could you steal Claire's baby from her?

You know Aaron is not yours!

Just like Jack, I no longer love you either!

During the wait between seasons 3 and 4, I also found out that I don't like Kate. I absolutely adore Claire :) And seeing that Kate somehow took her baby from her makes me hate Kate :)

Although it could be something else. Maybe Claire dies, and Kate wants to adopt Aaron (when I think about this option, I certainly wish that the answer is that Kate stole Aaron).

Or maybe Aaron's father was actually Kate, who had a sex-change operation after breaking up with Claire.

Yeah, think about it.

Bond 02-23-2008 12:17 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.

Dylflon 02-23-2008 03:43 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 217194)
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.

Wrong.


It's getting really good!

GameMaster 02-23-2008 06:16 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 217194)
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.

Wait, no! Don't read any of this! You're not even on Season 3 yet!

You're sabotaging yourself!

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Originally Posted by Bube
Although it could be something else. Maybe Claire dies, and Kate wants to adopt Aaron (when I think about this option, I certainly wish that the answer is that Kate stole Aaron).

I was thinking more along the lines that Claire is injured seriously (either by accident or by someone like Locke). And so Claire is there, breathing heavily, not too far from death, and she asks Kate to take care of Aaron, knowing that she's going to die.

In the court scene with Jack, its stated that only (small number) of people survived the plane crash (which is a lie by the way). Which could mean that Claire is either still on the island, dead, or back in the 'real world' with Kate, Jack, Hurley, etc.

They've set it up to make it seem like Kate has stolen baby Aaron but I think as the story matures, we'll actually see that this is not a kidnapping.

The only nagging detail that conflicts with this theory is the way Jack declines Kate's offer to go over to her house when they're talking outside the court after the trial. He'd rather go out for coffee and not see or acknowledge Aaron.

Which could mean he doesn't approve of Kate having the baby for whatever reason.

Or, another possibility the story sets up is that the baby is in fact, Kate's, and Sawyer is the father. As in the episode, we learn that Kate and Sawyer had been questioning whether Kate was pregnant but then she insists in this episode that she's not. Which could be true or a lie.

If the baby were Sawyer's, it could offer an explanation as to why Jack doesn't want to go to Kate's home to see him.

Although this begs the question: why would Kate name her baby Aaron as well?

My theory: now that Kate and Claire are living together in one of Ben's little homes, I think that the time between then and when Kate leaves the island, she probably grew close to Claire and Aaron. And if Claire and Aaron either die, stay on the island, or just go back to Australia; perhaps Kate names her own child Aaron in honor the one on the island she became so attached to?

Whew! I just looked at my speculation meter and I'm almost on empty. I better go to the station and fill up...

Bond 02-23-2008 06:57 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
I'm actually all caught up now. Had a Lost marathon last weekend. :)

Bube 02-24-2008 05:18 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by GameMaster (Post 217198)
In the court scene with Jack, its stated that only (small number) of people survived the plane crash (which is a lie by the way). Which could mean that Claire is either still on the island, dead, or back in the 'real world' with Kate, Jack, Hurley, etc.

We do know that there's such a thing as the Oceanic 6, and it looks like those are the people "rescued" from the island, so we could assume these are the only "survivors" the world knows of. Claire may not be one of the 6, and might have asked Kate to look after him.

But the Kate-Sawyer thing is also pretty good, and before I heard the baby's name, I was thinking along the same lines. And Kate sure could have named her child Aaron as well, why not?

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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 217199)
I'm actually all caught up now. Had a Lost marathon last weekend. :)

I sure hope you're not reading anything in this thread :)

Neo 02-28-2008 12:30 PM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
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Originally Posted by Bond (Post 217194)
J.J. Abrams is starting to make this show spiral out of control just like he did with Alias in the fourth season. This upsets me.

The only thing I don't like is the fact that the island has become a war zone. Initially all we had were plane crash survivors and a mysterious island. Now everyone has guns and people are being killed left and right. Death no longer seems to matter that much.

Fox 6 02-29-2008 01:49 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
Well, mind time travel..........


no biggie.

GameMaster 02-29-2008 08:29 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
Desmond rocks the casbah!

But um, I gotta take away a few points from this week's episode for having such a limited cast.

We saw hardly any Jack. And zero screen time for: Hurley, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Ben, and Locke.

What is up with that?

Professor S 02-29-2008 08:58 AM

Re: LOST : season 4
 
Last night's episode was one of the best stand alone episodes of any televised drama I've ever seen. Its up there with Battlestar and a select few Dr. Who episodes, IMO. I was beginning to tire of the show, but last night's show wasn't just about time travel, but it was the essence of great sci-fi: An allegory for human experience.

He was saved by the reconnecting withe the one he loved.

Best episode of any show I've seen this year, and one of the best of any show in YEARS.

Plus, you get some answers and new questions:

Answer: Now we know what time period everything is taking place.
Answer: Now we know how Desmond could predict the future

Question: Are the flash forwards not really flash forwards? What if they are the continuation of simulaneous time travel and experience, kind of like what Desmond experienced, but unconcious instead of conscious.

Question: When will Faraday (love the scientific reference, BTW) need his constant?


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