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Typhoid 06-09-2006 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor S
I have no doubt that he will be replaced by someone, but will that someone be as experienced as Zarqawi and his top aids? Will that someone be as ruthless/sadistic/evil? Will that someone be competant?


Again, I will put this into terms of the US presidency. If the President, the Vice President, and the next 6 people who would take over were all killed, would the person who filled the presidency be any less competent than the person in the spot originally?



And my original point was that this will most likely spawn some sort of "So what, we're still evil, watch!" type sadistic bombing. Again, much like if the president and blah blah blah were killed, the US would respond with some sort of something.

KillerGremlin 06-09-2006 06:03 PM

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Lemme tell you, Robin Williams does a hillarious little snippet on the virgins thing during his Live on Broadway routine.

"It's 50 virginians, you *******!"

Professor S 06-09-2006 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid
Again, I will put this into terms of the US presidency. If the President, the Vice President, and the next 6 people who would take over were all killed, would the person who filled the presidency be any less competent than the person in the spot originally?



And my original point was that this will most likely spawn some sort of "So what, we're still evil, watch!" type sadistic bombing. Again, much like if the president and blah blah blah were killed, the US would respond with some sort of something.


Wow, Bluefire, you were dead right. Crazy.

As for your first question...

NO, HE WOULDN'T BE. Why would you think he would be? He has no experience as the president. he has no idea what kind of responsibilities or time management he'll need. If you have convinced yourself that pretty much anyone in any kind of governemnt position could perform adeqquately as president on nearly no notice, thats strictly a fabrication and rationalization to support your own political views.

BTW, since your such an expert on US Presidential competencies and power succession, who would be the 7th in line for the US presidency? And no, I don't expect you to know this. And yes, I am just making one of my reknowned smart-ass points. And yes, if you do reply with the correct answer, you did Google it.


Dyne, you are completely right. American news organizations should not be acting in such a juvenile manner, especially in their powerful position. The whole point should be that we are above such petty and inflamatory rhetoric. Then again, it is the POST. Thats like asking the GLOBE to act in an honorable fashion.

But even if Zarqawi was only the head in Iraq (he was much more than that), he still has all the experience and connections in Iraq. If they replace him with someone from another country, they are still starting from square one, and without any Suni help.

Typhoid 06-09-2006 08:07 PM

Re: *BREAKING NEWS* Abu Musab al-Zarqawi... DEAD!
 
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Originally Posted by Professor S
NO, HE WOULDN'T BE. Why would you think he would be? He has no experience as the president. he has no idea what kind of responsibilities or time management he'll need. If you have convinced yourself that pretty much anyone in any kind of governemnt position could perform adeqquately as president on nearly no notice, thats strictly a fabrication and rationalization to support your own political views.

BTW, since your such an expert on US Presidential competencies and power succession, who would be the 7th in line for the US presidency? And no, I don't expect you to know this. And yes, I am just making one of my reknowned smart-ass points. And yes, if you do reply with the correct answer, you did Google it.


So then on your first point, no president will ever be as good as the previous? Each president just keeps getting worse and worse and worse throughout history because they have no experience as president?

For your second point, thats pretty lame, for the record. That was even below you. Who the hell does know the 7th in line for the presidency, short of someone taking a class, or actually needing that knowledge for everyday life.

DeathsHand 06-09-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid
So then on your first point, no president will ever be as good as the previous? Each president just keeps getting worse and worse and worse throughout history because they have no experience as president?

If President B is shoved into office due to the deaths of President A and the 5 others below him, I'd say it's most likely that President B will not be as good as President A... Or at least not immediately so...

Presidents elected under normal circumstances have had time to dedicate to researching and planning (goals, catchy phrasing of words, etc)...
Even after they officially win the election, they have a couple months before they actually take office...

Seems fairly obvious...

Fox 6 06-09-2006 09:40 PM

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You cant compare a presidential position (or any democratic position for that matter ) to leadership of a terrorist cell.

presidents are bound by laws, regulations, and legal processes. Terrorists can try do anything they want no matter how stupid, or illegal.



secondly i was watching CNN and they had the press conference with the general and he said they most likely think that the replacement is an Egyptian guy who knew al-Zarqawi, and helped establish him in Iraq, but who knows if hes up to the challange. Only time will tell.

Professor S 06-09-2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand
If President B is shoved into office due to the deaths of President A and the 5 others below him, I'd say it's most likely that President B will not be as good as President A... Or at least not immediately so...

Presidents elected under normal circumstances have had time to dedicate to researching and planning (goals, catchy phrasing of words, etc)...
Even after they officially win the election, they have a couple months before they actually take office...

Seems fairly obvious...

Thank you. Dear God, thank you.

And Typhoid, as for what I said being below me, I've said far worse, especially to you. If THAT hurt your feelings, I have not been doing my job well at all for the past few years. Just remember, each one of my many barbs comes dipped in honey with a side of love... before I beat you in the head with the golden logic baseball-bat. This only sounds like an arrogant statement because it is and I am. :D

On a side note, the Iraqi peacekeepers and Us military need to hop of the good foot and get with the terrorist killing. Zarqawi's death is an excellent opportunity to pour on the pressure and convert more former enemies into informants. If they don't start in the next week or so, I fear that Typhoid's prediction may come true and the US and Iraqi governments may let a new Zarqawi settle in and get comfy. It will take a good bit for the new leader to take control, but worry we may give him that good bit. The key here is the take advantage of the chaos in Al Quaida, create more chaos for them and then give them enough slack so that they hand themselves with sloppy communications and organization.

Typhoid 06-10-2006 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Professor S
And Typhoid, as for what I said being below me, I've said far worse, especially to you. If THAT hurt your feelings, I have not been doing my job well at all for the past few years.


Something doesnt have to be beneath person A, to hurt person B. It just means person A is sinking lower than person B thinks they are above.

bobcat 06-10-2006 01:18 AM

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I think B comes before A.......................


in the alphabet that is......in descending order

KillerGremlin 06-10-2006 02:35 AM

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I swear, it's online flirting. Such a platonic relationship.

But fun to read and jump in on nevertheless. Keep it up.

Typhoid 06-10-2006 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin
I swear, it's online flirting. Such a platonic relationship.

But fun to read and jump in on nevertheless. Keep it up.


****, our code's been broken.

Professor S 06-10-2006 04:02 PM

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Hey, we try and entertain. But honestly, I don't think either of us have come across anyone besides each other who can furstrate us to no end like we can.

/me reads post over again before replying

I think that last sentance makes sense, but either way I'm going with it!!! Gotta love my dyslexia!

Typhoid 06-10-2006 04:32 PM

Re: *BREAKING NEWS* Abu Musab al-Zarqawi... DEAD!
 
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Originally Posted by Professor S
Hey, we try and entertain. But honestly, I don't think either of us have come across anyone besides each other who can furstrate us to no end like we can.

* Professor S reads post over again before replying


I think that last sentance makes sense, but either way I'm going with it!!! Gotta love my dyslexia!


Needs more Pro nouns.

KillerGremlin 06-10-2006 05:12 PM

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My arch enemy is metal sporks.


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