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Canyarion 08-19-2004 05:55 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
..... I feel good when I drink quite some water.

The problem is that many people don't know when they're thirsty. It's often mistaken for hunger... :unsure:

Joeiss 08-19-2004 07:43 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
The Germanator: If you drink only when you become thirsty, your body is allready dehydrated.

Typhoid: Yeah I know. Who drinks 8 glasses a day? I drink at least 15.

Dyne:
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Noo.. no no no. Protein should only take up 25% of your diet, actually. Carbs should take at least 50%. I've read that and heard that almost everywhere I go.

The only thing you need to take "plenty" of is water.
What kind of ****ty-assed websites do you go to? If we are talking about bodybuilding a working out, you need your protein levels much higher than 25%. I great split is 40/40/20 (P,C,F). If you are trying to gain muscle mass, you should be getting in 1-1.5g of your bodyweight in protein. And the only thing I need to take it plenty of water? What would this do? You will die without food, man. ;)

Mushlafa 08-19-2004 07:55 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Ya joeiss you beat me to it.... 1- 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight... for carbs its like 2-3 grams per pound of body weight ( cant remember exact numbers ) but carbs are much easier to get than protein.

Ace195 08-19-2004 08:17 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Lol... My key on drinking water is urine color. I mean you want to have constatly clear urine and you want to have to go often but not too often.. It's a double edged sword ...

http://www.thelssa.com/lssa/media/di...urineChart.jpg

Dyne 08-19-2004 08:38 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Quote:

What kind of ****ty-assed websites do you go to? If we are talking about bodybuilding a working out, you need your protein levels much higher than 25%. I great split is 40/40/20 (P,C,F). If you are trying to gain muscle mass, you should be getting in 1-1.5g of your bodyweight in protein. And the only thing I need to take it plenty of water? What would this do? You will die without food, man. ;)
No websites at all, actually.

The Germanator 08-19-2004 10:00 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeiss
The Germanator: If you drink only when you become thirsty, your body is allready dehydrated.

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Other claims discredited by scientific evidence that Valtin discusses include:

* Thirst Is Too Late. It is often stated that by the time people are thirsty, they are already dehydrated. On the contrary, thirst begins when the concentration of blood (an accurate indicator of our state of hydration) has risen by less than two percent, whereas most experts would define dehydration as beginning when that concentration has risen by at least five percent.

* Dark Urine Means Dehydration. At normal urinary volume and color, the concentration of the blood is within the normal range and nowhere near the values that are seen in meaningful dehydration. Therefore, the warning that dark urine reflects dehydration is alarmist and false in most instances.

Just read this...It's a very informative article. http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/200...runc_sys.shtml

Ace195 08-19-2004 10:40 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
One doctor vs. the many hrm.. interesting.. show me more...

Joeiss 08-19-2004 10:48 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Good site. What I said is just used to keep people drinking water. When somebody is bodybuilding, they must feed their muscles water to help grow.

For help on what do drink in your PWO Shake, click this link: http://abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/...pportunity.htm

Great information on nutrient density: http://abcbodybuilding.com/magazine0...entdensity.htm

And dyne, please give me some quotes or something about your thoughts on only 25% of your diet coming from proteins. Thanks.

Dyne 08-20-2004 01:34 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
After a quick google search:

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What builds muscle?

Protein builds muscle. Without an adequate supply of protein, your body will not support any kind of muscle growth. If you supply your body with the optimum amount of protein, you ensure optimal growth, it's as simple as that.

After all, you want to build muscle and to do that, you need a steady supply of high quality protein. You must include an optimal amount of protein in your weight lifting diet in order to build and sustain muscle growth.

So how much protein should you include in your weight lifting diet for maximum performance and muscle gain? Each of us have very different body types and the amount of protein will differ from individual to individual.

Protein intake will also depend on the amount of activity involved and how frequently you do it.

Your weight lifting diet should be comprised of 20% to 30% protein. That roughly translates to .8 to 1.3 grams of protein per pound of body weight. If you weight 145 pounds, your daily protein intake should be anywhere from 102 grams to 189 grams of protein per day.

You will have to do a bit of experimenting at the beginning to find out your optimal protein intake.
http://www.building-muscle101.com/we...ting-diet.html

Of course, that's a rough estimate. But the two trainer's I've been under have given me this guidline to not gorge on just protein. And it's ok to disagree. :)

Mushlafa 08-20-2004 03:26 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
To get as much protein as the above article sais 1.3 grams per pound of body weight you pretty much do have to gorge on protein. Its not easy to get that much.

Joeiss 08-20-2004 04:54 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
I rarely go over 1g to each pound per day. It's hard, plus I have hereditary kidney problems, so I do not want to kick start that at a young age.

Well, that is a decent site...But where are the footnotes to scientific journals or research papers? And looks at this post workout shake:

Power Drink II
1 ½ cup strawberries
1 cup low fat strawberry yogurt
1 scoop(2oz) vanilla protein powder- 22 grams protein
1 tbsp honey
1 ½ cup low fat or 1% milk
1 cup orange juice
5 grams creatine monohydrate

Why would you put milk in it? It just slows down the absorption. And instead of the fruits, get some dextrose and maltodextrin in there.

Acebot44 08-25-2004 03:31 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
Alright guy's, my left arm is slightly smaller than my right (I shot one handed and basicallly do EVERYTHING with my right) so if I wanted to even out the size, would I have to use heavier dumbells on the left or keep the weight even?

Typhoid 08-25-2004 03:57 AM

Re: Who works out?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Acebot44
Alright guy's, my left arm is slightly smaller than my right (I shot one handed and basicallly do EVERYTHING with my right) so if I wanted to even out the size, would I have to use heavier dumbells on the left or keep the weight even?




I would say maybe keep the weight the same, considering its weaker, but increase the number of reps you do with the weaker arm. Always do more with the weaker arm IMO, until you feel they are close to the same, then even it out.

TheGame 08-25-2004 05:23 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Erm... I work out!

But anyway. What I have learned is you should never do more with one arm than another. Just work them the same amount... if one arm is weaker it is just working harder to do the same job as your strong arm, and will eventually even out.

If it is so much weaker that you can't do the same with both arms (which obviously isn't the case given your solution) you slow down and work on smaller weights with both arms and work your way up to what your strong arm can do.

Joeiss 08-25-2004 05:49 PM

Re: Who works out?
 
Are you talking about your biceps or triceps?

Anyways, stop using barbells if you are using them. Stick to dumbbells. Try some 1-armed preacher curls, those are always tough. Try some shocking techniques to blast both arms, everntually your left will catch up.


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