:) you see, it's clever little words like that which save my ass from making mistakes

OK, honestly, some of you need ot WAKE UP!!

This is NOT a Game CONSOLE. This is a TiVo/VCR/DVD Player/ PS2 rolled into one box for Tech Geeks, I can honestly see it not even appealing to someone such as myself, a self-proclaimed "Tech Geek".

I remember whn I got my first MIDI-System Stereo. It had a Seperate Record Player (Sold Seperatly), Dual_Cassette Decks, an Am?FM Radio, and a new invention calld a CD Player, I still have it but over the years somethng happened. First the Record Player Broke, than the CD player, and then the Radio started to go and so did the left speaker.

Now I have to buy a whole new system or ge this hunk of junk repaired.

Sadly thats what the PSX is, it's a "MIDI-System" for a TV where the V is the "Record Player", sold seperatly.

I'm not agianst SOny COnsoles, I'm not even against M$ consoles, I'm against the idea of consoles that do everything short of make your breakfeast and wipe your @$$!
This thing isn't evena console, it's a COMPUTER.

China is gonna have a field day with it because they dn't even knwo weaher or not to classify the REGULAR PS2 as a Gaming Machine or a Computer, they'd have to classify tis thing as a military weapon!

I have to agree with gekko, this is NOT a good idea, and I'd like it to go down thecrapper STAT.

I HAVE a DVD Writer, a matsu****a/Panasonic DMR-HS2 Set-Top DVD Writer that cost me $850.00 last November, a GCN, a SONY VCR and a SONY DVD as well as an N64 all connect to my TV. If the GCN 2 is Backwards Compatible, I'll probably Disconnect the GCN 1 and connect the GCN 2, now what if my DVD Writer was part fo my GCN?Seems like a ight waste to upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.

Also I ca just see parts of the PSX Breaking in "Sections" first your DVD Writer goes, than your Game Playing piece, and finally, your CD Player. Basically it's a money hog, a black hole for your wallet and I hate those dang things!

I don't want a "Digital Media Lifestyle" I want compnetns that I can swap in/out of my se up when I FEEL like it, NOT when SONY says I should.

As good as this thing is it's not worth the probable cost, which will most likely be $600 or more, I'd wait AT LEAST until the PS3 Xbox 2 and GC2 come out before I added a DVD Writer to a game console and I'd only add it then because it would be cheap.

The advantage to a Console over a PC is GAMES. I bought my SNES because I was sick of typing "Edit Autoexec.bat" every time I wanted to change my DOS settings.

It was a pain in the @$$ to play a game on early PC's, it still is at times, on a Console I plug the game in, hit power and play it, simple as 1, 2, 3.

Also, it's getting tot he point where you need a PHD in electronics to fix your PC, and I don't want my game console like that, tweaking a PC adn tweaking a console are two differnt things and I like tweaking PC's the diea of going intoa game console chunrs my stomach as something that shouldn't ever be a requiremnt for repairs/upgrades.

Now, I'll leave you with this, Micro$oft is developing a second Behemoth, Sony is calling this... THING a game console, and I'm hoping my next NIntendo Console is NAMED GCN II and plays my old GCN games as wellas new Games, and really doesn't do anything else, if they thorw a GCN intoa new Panasonic/Matsu****a DVD Writer, fine but only if it was an "Extra device" and not a new console.

The Console wars are about to start again and this match may be pivotal.

I understand this is not a games console, and I understand what market it's trying to market.

DM - Unfortunately I still feel this way about these forums. I know most of you aren't like this, but there are those few that are (and I'm sure it goes for Xbox/Ps2 fans 2). I guess it's part of the forums so yeh, but I just thought i'd say it. Those people know who they are :mad2:

The PSX looks real snazzy, but putting so many things into one device is totally not feasible IMO. Going back to the printer/scanner/photocopier story.............. :sneaky:


And Stu I respect your opinions 2.....

bobcat you JUST said what I wanted to hear!

I don't hate it because it's branded with the word "SONY", I ahve a SONY TV, I hjave a SONY VCR, I have a PANASONIC DVD Writer, I have a NINTENDO Gamecube adn an ALIENWARE PC, as well as twqo GATEWAY PCs, my brohers APPLE, and a BARGIN BASEMENT 486 plus a comp I'm gpnna build. I have an AIWA STEROE a SONY Steroea BOSE Wave Radio etc, etc.

I don't avoid a product because "Sony Sux", I'll avoid the PSX because there's too much that can go wrong in it for a SImple game system, and the fact that I have a DVD Writer, a Game Console, access to a PS2, and I don't WANT a crazy spin on throwing a Console into a PVR/DVD Player.

I don't hate Pioneer DVD-ROM drives because "Pioneer Sux" IO hate them ebcause I've had four of them break on me, and I don't hate the PS2, ifI culd afford oen I'd probably buy it and not just use my rbothers, I hate the Xbox not because it's made by Microsoft biut because it's a Sh*tty system in my opinion. I hate WIndowsbecause it's a bad OS< I like MS WORD though, and that's because it's easy to use. I like High-Speed AOL, I don't like Compuserve though because it's a dumbed down version of AOL.

When I hate somethng I give a reason, I hate the PSX because it's the Mini-System Stereo/Printer/Scanner/Copier problem coming to game consoles. I like a Stereo Mini-System to save space and money but in the long run, I almost wish I had a "Component Stereo" again, and I'll NEVER buy another "Disposabl PC" nor will I ever owna TV with a Built-In VCR. I hate them too for the same reason.

This is why I'm glad Nintendo didnt put a DVD Player in the 'Cube, and why I wouldn' put a ecorer in until the pirce drops, in 2006 Sony's PSX might be a good idea; right now, it's not.

Case and point: I use my GameCube to play games, and my DVD Writer to Watch/Burn DDs, I don't want to play Game s on my DVD Writer and I don't want to Burn DVDs on my Cube, my brother uses the PS2 fora DVD Player because i's all he can fit in his room, but honestly, why not produce units like that in limited quanites only then? Basuically a "Dorm Room Edition" that's designed ot save space.

The Panasonic Qube never made it to the USA because most Americans have DVD Players, I have a buddy with a DVD Player AND a PS2, and even he uses the player over the PS2, it's nice if you travel, but at that point I'd want a laptop to take with me, ro a portable DVD player.

My point is to mkae a game console, not a machine that controls your house, if the next set fo consoles has a system that wipes your @$$ after yout ake a cr@p, I won't buy it, I don't need a machine that makes toast wakes me and tells me whent og o to work, I can use an Alram clock a toaster and common sense for that.

I go through VCRs about ever 6 or 7 years, after that I have to replace them, If I had a PS2 burning DVDs I'd have to replace it every six or seven years and new consoles come out every 5 years or so, eventually I'd "Skip" a next-gen console due ot DVD Burner prices.

I'm also contet to keep my GAME SYSTEM as just that, a GAME SYSTEM, and while I'd eb content to surt the 'net from my GCN I'm also fine without that feature, if we could survive wtih the one-button Atari we can survive without DVD Writers in our console, the PSX looks like the next "Nuon". Remebr the Nuon? Thought not, it was a DVD Playe that could pla games as well, I think it tanked faster than the Virtual Boy, if you remebr that disaster congradualtions, it was Nintendos first failure, just like the first Sony Handheld and the Sega Master System, and the Atari 7800, you remerb the 7800, don't you? Don't you?

My point is this, the PSX is overloaded with CRAP, nothin useful to the average consumer and the people who would want ths could easily just pay SOny to do a "Special" system for them ebcause you'dhave to be kidna rich to afford this type fo game console with a DVD Writer.

Now by 2005/2006 I think the idea may be feisable, inf act I'd say "Go For it" but don't make it so that the focus is burning DFVDs, make the Focuys Playing Games and if evey Next-Gwen console burns DVDs and costs the same price I'll be happy, but it's when one cost more than thew rest that I get peeved, the Xbox was this console war's overpriced unit, last time it was the PSX, before that it was the Genesis and before that the NES.

But rthe NES prevailed, th PSX prevailed, tthe others didn't however.

Now if everyone is charhing $250-$300 fora console than I'm ok with this, but if SOny is gonna have an overpriced POS, screw them, if this is a Sub-console than fine but if this is the "next" PS2 screw it I wouldn't buy it.

If I wanted a DVD burner, I'd want it separate. Lasers aren't "break proof". The more you use them, the more the laser wears out. I would NEVER invest in a DVD writer/CD/DVD/PS2/VCD player. Because it doesn't make sense in the long run.

At least until DVD burners are as cheap as regular CD burners (which will be a long time).

That's one of my complaints about things like this.

Of course, because you would hear it, silly willy.


Unless you wear ear plugs..

Hmm...deep stuff. Philosophical, even.

Neither do I. Heck, I've bought Sony products over the years. If we were to go for a good TV in the nineties before all this Home Theatre stuff came in, we would go Sony. I walked into a HDTV chain store, and there among the rough was the diamond with the highest quality picture out of all of them, the Sony TV. And our Sony TV lasted for the longest time too. My alarm clock is Sony. Annoying, but it works. I had a Sony Walkman that lasted for years of punishment.

Nobody in this thread was bashing sony of the reputation it's built up. We're bashing this because it's a questionable idea. Mainly from the exterior (Hey, it's a box! Where do I plug in the controllers? In the back? No thanks!), to the interior (just a PS2 that can do more? Wouldn't it be outdated?), it's a Tivo who can play games, par emphasis on the Tivo. Next generation VCR? I guess so. Questionable idea? Yeah.

The evolution of business would be nonexistant without calculated risks, but I thought that went without saying...

Gaah!! Bad choice of name!! really bad choice... PSX has long been used to refer to Hardware/games compatable with both PS and PS2.... especially original playstation games.

heh... dumbing down AOL!?? I think that would violate the laws of physics...can't go past infinitely dumb.

(I don't hate AOL because it's AOL, I hate AOL 'cause i suffered through 13 months of ****ty connections and awful ping times for games..., also idiot moderators [on AOL] not knowing what SARCASM is and threatening to TOS the account [not that i would have minded :) but my dad would have been pi**ed]

I wonder if PS3 will have the best feature from PS2 ...the ability to BREAK FOR NO GOOD REASON

(in case you are wondering.... I AM BITTER about my ps2 being busted)

oh crap... I wasn't paying attention to what threads i was on when replying... sorry about the triple (+1 = quadruple) post
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And that's EXACTLY the point I wanted to prove.

Sony Tv's/Monitors OWN.