What about for those people who Sony have by the tit?
Do you feel sorry for them?

absolutely

Well personally I feel sorry for those people who can't enjoy a game for what it is, and judging games before they've been played, never knowing on what they are missing out on.

It's easy to say "that's crap" so that's why most people do it, regardless of even playing the game. Just going on hear say is pretty lame if you ask me. Especially if a game hasn't even been released.

That's why I enjoyed Superman so much on the N64 :cool:

Oh and Stu, no wit intended ;)

:lol:

Given the chance, you'd spin anything into 'fanboy material', wouldn't you? :confused:

Well, that being the only thing you seem to be capable of, then why not huh? The sky's the limit! ;)

Online gaming is something that is much more fitted for a PC than a console, plain and simple. The fact that you have to pay an extra monthly fee for play AND you have to buy hardware in addition on top of having the console and the game and the connection in the first place. Well, that is just too much money for something you can get on the PC with just an internet connection and the game.

Now, online gaming is fun in any format, so don't come back saying that I think that online gaming on a console is not as fun or as good. It is just too cumbersome and costly in the current environment.

And TheGame, like many have said, your numbers are extremely inflated. Firstly, a PC that can do everything you need only costs about $700.

I hear ya

Are you talking about building one or buying one from somewhere like Dell? Give me a link to an online store that gives a PC that good (with windows, no linux crap) at that price.... (and I'm talking one good enough to play the most visually impressive game out now in it's FULL glory)

And even then, I already have a PC that is good enough to do EVERYTHING else but gaming... All the extra perks of having a PC are useless, if I purchase one it would have to be for gaming only.

:confused:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but Pc's nowadays when you buy them are much cheaper than before, and also can do a lot like non gaming stuff AND gaming stuff.

Oh no wait I see. You don't need another Pc for general stuff coz u got one. Depending on your specs of that Pc, I Would recommend scrapping it and just buying a new one.

Why do you want to have the visually most impressing game running @ optimum? That would be impossible because you'd be paying a fortune for unneccessary graphical technology that you probably wouldn't notice to begin with.

I can buy a custom built Pc for about $1000 easy. Just the box. And you will be able to play all the games you c @ Eb for Pc.

www.computermarket.com.au

However if you are not sure about what components you want, then just get a dell/compaq (even though dell use Western Digital Hard Drives, which I have had bad experiences with).

goto the dell page, or gateway page. i can see some without looking


And most websites you buy computer off of you build your own anyway. you go thro a list and select what you want on it.

Thing is most Non computer gameing people believe that you simply have to have the BEST, and have a computer fully loaded in every way possible to play the best looking games at thier top level. and some of these sites play into that by saying GAMEING MACHINE 1,799 They know damn well you can play every game out with costing a lot less. but they know people believe thats what they need so why not sell ones named gameing machines for that price?

and building em yourself is even cheaper.
But you can get a fine P4 2gig + 512 ram, and a GeForce 4 or Radeon for under 1000 at a website or store

When it comes to you, sadly, there's no other tune to play. But please prove me wrong...

I don't have to prove you wrong.. I just have to ask you what warranted such a statement in the first place, and watch you back-pedal like there was no tomorrow...

So go ahead, induldge me! I'll be patient.

Some people always resort to that when they can't argue on the same level.

Your comments were ridiculously biased and shallow. Online gaming is simply just an 'X, Y, Z' game with online play strapped on? I guess that voice chat with people from different countries to plan an attack on a team of 8 user-controlled enemies from different areas of the continent is simply a 'regular old single player game with something "strapped onto it"'. Talk about misleading the reader. Why don't you explain EXACTLY what is 'strapped on' and why it adds nothing to the regular split screen/single TV multiplayer experience. There are always two sides to the fence, and you always seem to get your jollies by frolicking on the Nintendo side.

4-player Pac-Man using 4 GBAs as controllers is not evolutionary. It's new. New means nothing...people farting the tune to a song would be new...but in the end, it still stinks. This area of gaming that Miyamoto has given us from the gods may have a future of new, exciting possibilites...but right now, all I see is four people mildly enjoying themselves playing a 20 year old game.

But keep convincing yourself that I'm backpeddaling...that way, at least you like yourself...because that's what's really important, right? :)

care to join us, then? it would only make sense if you're making those kinds of comments...

Well, you just proved me wrong by properly replying to one of dreals posts. :)

Now if only you had done that before ;). (By the way, I didn't call or imply anyone was a fanboy in the thread, I was merely commenting on dreal's post, and I also didn't have anything to argue about, so I can't "join" you in your discussion with dreal).

Ok then. Unavailablity is a fun excuse, but you can't always be the spectator telling the player how to play ;)

Yes I can ;).

not with dignity :D

You'll be surprised :D.

Anyways, it appears as though Mario Kart: DD 'may' well be online, with no subscription fees to pay. If this is true, makes you wonder if F-zero and future GCN multiplayer games (like SMB3?) will have similar, inbuilt tunneling software, which wouldn't require the use of a PC to play the games online.

As for the 4-player pacman, I'd rather play it first before deciding whether it has revolultionised the multiplayer genre or just plain sucks. I doubt either is true, but it'll be hard to find out how good/bad it is since it'll be hard to find 3 other people with GBA's.

I knew I left some unfinished business here.
 

Man, this is classic sh!t.

I've been in countless debates/arguments before, and this is easily one of the most one-sided of them all. I'm amazed that at your persistance Stu, because you had no basis for argument from the very start. Nothing I said I this thread was bias or shallow(and certainly not "ridiculously" so, as you claimed)and your pathetic attempts to prove so, were, of course, to no avail. I can't allow any fool to be taking cheap, unwarranted shots at me, and even thinking their acts were appropriate. It'll cost ya.


First, I'll point to the very statement that put me on the offense(or on the defense, depending on how you look at it).

You quoted me saying:
"I feel sorry for people who were so certain this generation would spark some kind of online frenzy."

You replied:
"I feel sorry for people who Nintendo have by the tit"

I don't think you're even aware of how absurd is was for you to take my original post (or any statement within it)and -- for whatever reason -- spin it into something it just it was never meant to be. Then, followed by your feeble attempt to justify what you did. If you don't agree with anything I say, the smarter thing to do -- being in a forum and all -- would be to... gasp... post your opposing view. Hiding behind allegations of me being biased and or firing cheapshots and retreating seem like the punk way out, if you ask me.

Hello!? I posted my stance on where online gaming is in this generation, and on the statemnet which Break-A-Bone based this thread. Hell is wrong with you, kid? There's NOTHING here to be biased or shallow about. You either agree, disagree, fall somewhere in the middle, or STFU. If you think online gaming took some kind of significant step and it did caused a frenzy, then say so and quit acting like I'm holding you're opinion hostage. If that's you're perspective, then I totally disagree, but it'd be foolish of me to accuse you of being bias or taking Sony's side. Do you realize how dumb that sounds? To turn this into some "D-real & Nintendo Vs the world" issue -- as you have -- is idiotic, reflects your own bias, shallowness, ignorance, and lack of understanding.

Misleading the reader? The only one misled is you, my naive friend. That's due in large part to your inability to comphrehend. If reading is a challange for you, perhaps the following link may offer a glimmer of hope. Hooked On Phonics!

Ahaha, that was too irresistable, but who knows, maybe it might actually help. ;)
Seriously, before you pick a bone with someone, you should first make sure you were certain of what they said. Not what you think they said. Anything less sets you up for easy ripping. But why tell you, when I can show ya, hmm?

Here's what you said:
"Online gaming is simply just an 'X, Y, Z' game with online play strapped on?"

Here's what i actually said:
"On one hand, you have a certian group thinking that having a fun multiplayer experience simply means taking X, Y, or Z game, and slapping it online with a multiplayer mode..."

I know where online gaming IS right now, and where It'd COULD go. I'd be damn if I said something as stupid as you implied I did. How you transladed my statement into that crap you just said is beyond me. I wouldn't go as far as saying you blatantly lied, I'd just say you need to think before you speak, or in this case read(and comprehend) before you type. Whatever the case, by now, everyone -- except you -- sees how wrong you are. Wrong... yet, persistent? :confused:

Yo, are you so imature you can't see things in any other light than that of picking sides? There's no sides to pick in this thread, just drop it already! I told you; either you agree, disagree, fall in the middle somewhere, or shut up. But, I'm curious though, so let's say this were a thread where I could pick sides. Why would me -- a Nintendo fan -- choosing to side with Nintendo bother you so much anyway? :hmm:

Oooooooooooh! Heh, that's irony for ya!

Also. Why should I explain something I never said? Show me where I said -- or hell, even implied -- that online gaming adds nothing to the regular offline multiplayer experience. You're just pulling stuff out the air, aren't you? Are they 2 or 3 more Perfect Stus that's I'm not aware of? How can ONE guy be THIS wrong? This is just pathetic!

I don't even know why I even wasted my time. You're inconsistent, you're taking everything I said out of context, you're basing your supporting argument on points I never made, you're claiming I said things I never did, and more importantly, all of this crap stemmed from you taking an ordinary cut and dry statement/post, and mutating it into this bunch of bull about being bias, picking sides, and everything which the nature of the thread doesn't even foment. Maybe the driving factor for me here is the thought of you even harboring the idea that you have something on me. pppff. :rolleyes:

Well, then that's you're perspective on the whole Pac-man deal. The thread encouraged you to post your view, didn't it? I'm not sure where this would fit in your attemp to prove these "ridiculously bias and shallow" statements that I allegedly posted, so there's not much I can say here, except for the fact that I hold a different perspective here. Based on what was said in the quoted, it would appear like the reality was much further from your idea of four people mildly enyoying themselves playing a 20 year old game. But whatever...

Last, but not least.
I was wrong, admittingly. No back-peddaling here. You're just running dead smack into brick-walls. :(

You're play!
You post, I rip. Simple little game, isn't it?

As a matter of fact, I said much of what was needed to be said. Seeing that you've been on the wrong track from the start, I don't see your argument going anywhere. So, you can have the last word. Just don't make it too tempting. ;)

*Looks at post above*

Jeez! Why do the sily ones get the majority of my time? :unsure:

:D

You're calling me immature when I call you biased and you refrain to making personal attacks on me? This isn't the 6th grade...My point was clear for the get go. You "I feel sorry for people who were so certain this generation would spark some kind of online frenzy.". I "feel sorry for people who Nintendo have by the tit".

First quote: you accused me of nothing
Second quote: I accused you of nothing...unless of course you took it out of context :eek:

You wouldn't let sleeping dogs lie...I see you have fun posting long, meaningless rants though. Whatever I can do to help :D

I'll take a page from your book to end this, though...and this can be for the record. I see your bias, and I feel bad for you. You can either agree, disagree, stand somewhere in between or shut up. Throwing around personal insults are supposedly signs of insecurity and immaturity. Who knows, though ;)

damn, that was weak :shakehead

:rolleyes: :lol: :rolleyes:

Wow, I decide to take a gander in here because of all the posts (stopped looking for awhile) and I see some good stuff happening.
*slowly backs away and leaves*

lmao... this is the funniest thread ever. Perfect Stu is had a really thick skull

LOL, I see you guys are loving this bit of dramma, don't you?!
 

Anyway, Stu. As I said.. you get the last word.

I already made my case. ANYONE who've been paying attention can see how this started, who provoked it, who's in the wrong, and who's argument just isn't adding up.

That's as much as I'll say, since I already made my case.

*Puts Perfect Stu on list*

We'll meet again! :mad2:

Re: LOL, I see you guys are loving this bit of dramma, don't you?!
 

word.

pillow

Pillow?

For me?

I got a new pillow... it's really fluffy and comfortable.

Holy crap. I just got new pillows the other day!

This is getting wierd...

Errr..

My pillow is hard and lumpy... it's like lying on a 10 lb bag of potatoes!

I'm thinking about getting me a helmet. Ummm.. or maybe a softer pillow. :unsure:

*scratches head* .. why am I back here?

Hell, why am I back here, talking about pillows? :confused:

Hell, why is this thread still open. It got quite a ways off track.

You can thank bouncer_agb for that. He seemed to bring up the pillow topic.

When was it ever on track? ;)

But now that it went off the subject of gaming altogther, thread done.